I take issue with calling the noble cop a myth. I have many cop friends, and I would describe them as noble in their duties. Way more good cops than bad.
I used to feel the way that you do on the subject. Now so many are just the enforcement wing of woke governments. Serve their government masters and protect their pensions. Sorry frens, go ahead and downvote.
Those who abide by the law, however, and uphold it, can be trusted.
For arguments sake - I disagree. The lack of action and consequences for all the known "bad cops", means by necessity that there are none like you describe above. If they were as we all hoped(good cops), we wouldn't be in this position we are in now.
At least not without everyone seeing massive Good Cop walkouts because they are aware they can't abide, uphold or enforce the law for the people. But we never did, and never will.
Which leads to the inescapable conclusion that there are no "good cops", just cops with friends they haven't turned on yet.
Ah, so I take it you’re out there Batman-style taking down the corrupt officials we see on a regular basis? Since it’s so easy, I mean.
Last I checked, police forces have been experiencing walkouts and retirements en masse. Philadelphia is trying to hire police offers by offering massive bonuses and other perks. No one is taking the bait because they know they’ll be ordered to let people go and not uphold the law.
Not to mention when the mainstream left engages in a full throttled campaign to demonize and defund cops, that's an obvious indicator we should adopt the opposite position.
lots good cops here still. Saw some really bad ass-oles in a vid from France bowling over kwomen when they weren't looking and peacefully protesting. well OK they were banging some pots and pans but that peaceful in France.
Yeah, same for the righteous prosecutors ... it's extremely clear that we had some by their very notable absence. That said, their incentive system mostly allows them to sidestep their consciences, but we obviously need some good ones now.
Although I understand the spirit of the image here - I believe it's equally dumb and counterproductive to lump all of any category into one label.
And it also comes across as pretty self righteous. We were once one of "them". Don't forget that.
And I am related to numerous officers - they're super patriots - they genuinely care about people - and they genuinely care about our constitution.
If that's true for myself in the case of the police I know - then it's likely true in each of those categories.
Let's edit this Image to say something more encouraging -
"Now is the time we turn Myths into Reality:
The Noble Cop, The Heroic Doctor, The Honest Politician, The Righteous Prosecutor, The Invincible Army, The Very Accomplished Federal Agent, The Selfless Teacher, and of course The Informed Voter.
They’ve made the age limit 18-unspecified for LAPD and LAFD for all the absent former ones. I’ve seen cops I thought were gonna jack me and there I go in head lines, with that part of the story, and what others would perceive. Isn’t it bullshit that perception beats first hand knowledge? That’s going to change, too.
If a system is sufficiently corrupt even an honorable person will do evil, just because the system is designed that way. Our current police system was created in 1931 by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. (or just "Rockefeller") specifically to be a tyranny for the plebs, and a getaway car for the elite.
Here's how it went down.
In 1920 Rockefeller created prohibition. He did it by funding almost the entire thing and by creating manufactured consensus on the "evils of alchohol". This drove crime through the roof. This gave massive power to the FBI (which he helped create), but it also created the need to "change the system." In walked all his agents to do just that. Through this effort they got the constitution amended (18th Amendment) to make drinking illegal.
Sometime around 1925 (I'll have to look it up) he created a commission (funded by the Carnegie Corporation, a branch of the Rockefeller Foundation) to investigate how to create a new and better police, penal, and court system.
This led to the government (under Hoover) creating the Wickersham Commission in 1931 which had all the exact same people as the previous Rockefeller commission, but now was funded by, and more importantly held the authoritative weight of the US Government.
After the new police/law system was created, in 1932 Rockefeller wrote to Nicholas Butler (one of his agents that helped create the manufactured consensus) and told him it was time to repeal the 18th Amendment, and prohibition ended.
That is how our entire system of modern law enforcement and penal system was created.
It doesn't matter how well intended or honorable a person is. The system was designed to do evil.
This action was also instrumental in creating the present day IRS and it's sister organization the ATF. Why create one government funded agency of evil when you can create two at twice the price?
This is very good info and I appreciate you putting it together.
But one must also consider that it's actually the criminals who are in more danger than law abiders if police did not exist. Vigilante justice offers no due process and is unmerciful.
the criminals who are in more danger than law abiders if police did not exist.
Why are people criminals? People are criminals because they see opportunity in crime where they don't see opportunity without it. Who created all the opportunities (both criminal and "lawful")? Every single system, every opportunity, everything we think of regarding "how things work" in our world comes from a single source.
Once you really get that, all these old arguments stop making as much sense as they do in an "organic" world.
People are more often criminals because of corrupted values.
There's a difference between a criminal who was set up by the system and a criminal who has decided to victimize a fellow citizen. For instance, a rapist is the result of absent values, not a corrupted system.
Haitian immigrants are poor as dirt but their crime rate is relatively low compared to other impoverished groups. That's a matter of values passed through culture.
And if we don't have an impartial party like police to interject between an accused assaulter and the victim's family, we get more problems stacking on top of the initial crime, like harming innocent people and reprisal killings.
The "good cops" were arresting people walking outside by themselves in the park or standing on the beach because they weren't wearing a face rag.
The "good cops" who look the other way while their fellow cops blatantly ignore the rights of fellow citizens are not "good cops", they are facilitators of evil and just as guilty.
I take issue with calling the noble cop a myth. I have many cop friends, and I would describe them as noble in their duties. Way more good cops than bad.
I used to feel the way that you do on the subject. Now so many are just the enforcement wing of woke governments. Serve their government masters and protect their pensions. Sorry frens, go ahead and downvote.
The same can be said about the military, but Q says the military will save the world. He also said there are way more good people than bad.
Military went bad WAY before cops did.
One could argue military (standing) was always bad.
Which post?
u/#q114
Maybe he meant the russian military
Do you think TRUMP would have been wise to say anything else. Do you think Q is all knowing and all powerful? Just asking.
I think we need to make a serious distinction between:
Cops that serve their (((fraternal order)))
And
Cops that serve the people.
Any and all cops that will take the, “Is there no mercy for a widow’s son” Freemason get-out-of-jail-free card are not our allies.
Those who abide by the law, however, and uphold it, can be trusted.
We must remember that one of the first things the Nazis did was get rid of the police force through propaganda that was similar to what BLM uses today
For arguments sake - I disagree. The lack of action and consequences for all the known "bad cops", means by necessity that there are none like you describe above. If they were as we all hoped(good cops), we wouldn't be in this position we are in now.
At least not without everyone seeing massive Good Cop walkouts because they are aware they can't abide, uphold or enforce the law for the people. But we never did, and never will.
Which leads to the inescapable conclusion that there are no "good cops", just cops with friends they haven't turned on yet.
Ah, so I take it you’re out there Batman-style taking down the corrupt officials we see on a regular basis? Since it’s so easy, I mean.
Last I checked, police forces have been experiencing walkouts and retirements en masse. Philadelphia is trying to hire police offers by offering massive bonuses and other perks. No one is taking the bait because they know they’ll be ordered to let people go and not uphold the law.
Agreed, not just the cops on there either.
People be careful of serving the purposes of the enemy by dividing people even further than has been done already.
Yea many cops enter that field because they recognize they have gifts for the job and would like to bring justice to the world.
Some join for other reasons, too.
I swear there is a word for judging an entire group for some bad elements within...
Not to mention when the mainstream left engages in a full throttled campaign to demonize and defund cops, that's an obvious indicator we should adopt the opposite position.
Excellent point!
lots good cops here still. Saw some really bad ass-oles in a vid from France bowling over kwomen when they weren't looking and peacefully protesting. well OK they were banging some pots and pans but that peaceful in France.
I agree. It's really pathetic to see how many people have hopped onto the "ACAB" bandwagon.
MOST cops are very good, decent people.
Yeah, same for the righteous prosecutors ... it's extremely clear that we had some by their very notable absence. That said, their incentive system mostly allows them to sidestep their consciences, but we obviously need some good ones now.
Agreed with you @Mister_Winston.
Although I understand the spirit of the image here - I believe it's equally dumb and counterproductive to lump all of any category into one label.
And it also comes across as pretty self righteous. We were once one of "them". Don't forget that.
And I am related to numerous officers - they're super patriots - they genuinely care about people - and they genuinely care about our constitution.
If that's true for myself in the case of the police I know - then it's likely true in each of those categories.
Let's edit this Image to say something more encouraging -
"Now is the time we turn Myths into Reality:
The Noble Cop, The Heroic Doctor, The Honest Politician, The Righteous Prosecutor, The Invincible Army, The Very Accomplished Federal Agent, The Selfless Teacher, and of course The Informed Voter.
Pick one - now go!"
They’ve made the age limit 18-unspecified for LAPD and LAFD for all the absent former ones. I’ve seen cops I thought were gonna jack me and there I go in head lines, with that part of the story, and what others would perceive. Isn’t it bullshit that perception beats first hand knowledge? That’s going to change, too.
If a system is sufficiently corrupt even an honorable person will do evil, just because the system is designed that way. Our current police system was created in 1931 by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. (or just "Rockefeller") specifically to be a tyranny for the plebs, and a getaway car for the elite.
Here's how it went down.
In 1920 Rockefeller created prohibition. He did it by funding almost the entire thing and by creating manufactured consensus on the "evils of alchohol". This drove crime through the roof. This gave massive power to the FBI (which he helped create), but it also created the need to "change the system." In walked all his agents to do just that. Through this effort they got the constitution amended (18th Amendment) to make drinking illegal.
Sometime around 1925 (I'll have to look it up) he created a commission (funded by the Carnegie Corporation, a branch of the Rockefeller Foundation) to investigate how to create a new and better police, penal, and court system.
This led to the government (under Hoover) creating the Wickersham Commission in 1931 which had all the exact same people as the previous Rockefeller commission, but now was funded by, and more importantly held the authoritative weight of the US Government.
After the new police/law system was created, in 1932 Rockefeller wrote to Nicholas Butler (one of his agents that helped create the manufactured consensus) and told him it was time to repeal the 18th Amendment, and prohibition ended.
That is how our entire system of modern law enforcement and penal system was created.
It doesn't matter how well intended or honorable a person is. The system was designed to do evil.
This action was also instrumental in creating the present day IRS and it's sister organization the ATF. Why create one government funded agency of evil when you can create two at twice the price?
This is very good info and I appreciate you putting it together.
But one must also consider that it's actually the criminals who are in more danger than law abiders if police did not exist. Vigilante justice offers no due process and is unmerciful.
Why are people criminals? People are criminals because they see opportunity in crime where they don't see opportunity without it. Who created all the opportunities (both criminal and "lawful")? Every single system, every opportunity, everything we think of regarding "how things work" in our world comes from a single source.
Once you really get that, all these old arguments stop making as much sense as they do in an "organic" world.
People are more often criminals because of corrupted values.
There's a difference between a criminal who was set up by the system and a criminal who has decided to victimize a fellow citizen. For instance, a rapist is the result of absent values, not a corrupted system.
Haitian immigrants are poor as dirt but their crime rate is relatively low compared to other impoverished groups. That's a matter of values passed through culture.
And if we don't have an impartial party like police to interject between an accused assaulter and the victim's family, we get more problems stacking on top of the initial crime, like harming innocent people and reprisal killings.
The "good cops" were arresting people walking outside by themselves in the park or standing on the beach because they weren't wearing a face rag.
The "good cops" who look the other way while their fellow cops blatantly ignore the rights of fellow citizens are not "good cops", they are facilitators of evil and just as guilty.