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posted ago by MemeToDeath2021 ago by MemeToDeath2021 +22 / -0

TDLR: Three quarters (3/4 = 0.75) of states must ratify an Amendment to make it law per Article V of the Constitution. And once ratified, they cannot unratify. There is no time limit.

...when ratified by the Legislatures [General Assembly] of three fourths of the several States,...

-Article V

TONA = Titles of Nobility Amendment


It looks like Amendment XIII TONA was fully ratified on January 31, 1824 with Indiana General Assembly authorization to print their updated Laws with the 13th Amendment in its laws (i.e. ratification via authorized publication of General Assembly), making it 18 of 24 states = 0.75. Indiana was one of six states' General Assemblies that includes Virginia, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Mississippi (in that order) that ratified it this way (via publication) between 1819 and 1824.

#13--12MAR 1819--Virginia Ratification

#14--15MAR 1820--Maine Ratification (direct split from MA State #11)

#15--25SEP 1821--Connecticut Ratification

#16--07MAY 1822--Rhode Island Ratification

#17--20JAN 1824-- Mississippi Ratification (auth 27NOV 1821, print delayed)

#18--31JAN 1824--Indiana Ratification (18/24 = 0.75)


Several connected posts will be posted soon with links to all the documents so anons can comment/verify/poke holes in it. In the meantime, feel free to investigate.

Many old documents can be found here: https://archive.org/details/revisedlawsofind01indi/page/20/mode/2up [this is Indiana Laws published 1824 showing TONA as "Article 13" under Amendments.]


An additional post will be completed at some point on a suggested way to utilize the other "emoluments clause" [Article I, Sect9, Clause 8] along with this Amendment in Federal District Court/Circuit Court to get a court order to deport any lawyer or judge that you need to sue that has ever been a member of any STATE BAR CORPORATION.

For those not familiar, this is the text:

If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.

1810-AMENDMENT XIII IN ITS FINAL FORM AS APPROVED BY US SENATE ON APRIL 26, 1810 WITH A VOTE OF 26-1 WITH 7 ABSENT OR NOT VOTING (FOR THE 17 STATES AT THE TIME).


Additional states that ratified via "official General Assembly publication" and date (if known):

#15--01NOV 1824--Connecticut Re-ratification

#05--05MAR 1825--Pennsylvania Re-ratification

#19--04JUL 1825--Missouri Ratification (makes it 19/24 = 0.79)

#14--15JUL 1825--Maine Re-ratification

#20--19FEB 1827--Illinois Ratification (makes it 20/24 = 0.83)

#10--XXXXX 1828--North Carolina Re-ratification

#00--XXXXX 1829--New York RE-REJECTION (FU NY & SC!!!)

#18--XXXXX 1831--Indiana Re-ratification

#03--XXXXX 1831--Ohio Re-ratification

#20--XXXXX 1833--Illinois Re-ratification (still 20/24 = 0.83)

#03--XXXXX 1833--Ohio + NW Territory Re-ratification

STATE #25 ENTERED THE UNION IN 1836.


Main theory on why Andrew Jackson did not order his SOS to officially declare it "law" was because AJ was intent on destroying the Central Bank which really was the root of the corruption and foreign influence being addressed by TONA XIII, so he may have thought it was not worth the fight and would be irrelevant once he vetoed the 20 year Bank Charter (from 1816) renewal in 1832? and let it expire automatically in 1836 with liquidation beginning in 1841.


Plus, there is already a TONA section in Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution, it just doesn't have the automatic penalty associated with it.