Interesting that the Flight Aware flight track shows it disappearing from ADS-B "radar" at a high altitude, and it was suddenly in a descent of 8000 FPM just before dropping off ADS-B. (Career planefag here BTW) If the pilot was incapacitated from a loss of pressurization and then ran out of fuel, as one thing I read stated, the descent would have been more gradual for a time. If the pilot was suddenly incapacitated (died suddenly), he could have slumped over the yoke pushing it forward causing autopilot to be disengaged and then the sudden rapid descent. If it got into a high stress situation from the rapid descent, it could have broken up in flight and the ADS-B equipment would have stopped broadcasting, but even at that, there would have been a longer time period before the ADS-B stopped reporting. Very strange.
A small engine aircraft shouldn't have turned into a small burned spot with no wreckage. In my opinion that indicates a mid-air break up. What breaks up a plane in mid-air? A missile would.
The flares are a bit of an odd detail though. If they had shot a missile or missiles and they wanted to hide it, a flares excuse could work to throw any eyewitness accounts into doubt.
The photos are highly suspicious. Modern airframes are built to handle incredible levels of stress. The debris from the crash looks far more like a craft that was shot down with an air to air missile than one that crashed "normally". A normal crash would leave much larger pieces of wreckage based on my experience.
However, I would invite any planefags to correct me here.
EDIT: A fellow pede wisely pointed out that if the craft was shot down, we'd see a much wider, more scattered debris field. So either the plane somehow disintegrated on impact, or these photos are completely contrived. But again, I'll defer to any planefags on here that can correct me. Just odd to me to see a crash result in such tiny fragments given the engineering involved.
if an air to air missile vaporized the plane in the air, it would be spread out over a very large area. if the missile didn't vaporize it and only destroyed half, there would be an impact site with half a plane.
if i had to make a wild guess... it looks kindof like a normal crash site that has been combed for evidence and torched.
that seems a bit far fetched too, though. but possible if someone were determined enough
That is a very distinct posibilty. I think we may be looking at a blackhat false flag operation to try to blame Trump or the anons for an attack since the planes owner was associated with Trump. If that is the case the military would certainly be justified in taking it down.
It didn't crash. They shot it down, and it came down in pieces.
If the tracking reports are accurate it was a plane. Missiles don't make a loop over New York before heading back to a target in DC.
Interesting that the Flight Aware flight track shows it disappearing from ADS-B "radar" at a high altitude, and it was suddenly in a descent of 8000 FPM just before dropping off ADS-B. (Career planefag here BTW) If the pilot was incapacitated from a loss of pressurization and then ran out of fuel, as one thing I read stated, the descent would have been more gradual for a time. If the pilot was suddenly incapacitated (died suddenly), he could have slumped over the yoke pushing it forward causing autopilot to be disengaged and then the sudden rapid descent. If it got into a high stress situation from the rapid descent, it could have broken up in flight and the ADS-B equipment would have stopped broadcasting, but even at that, there would have been a longer time period before the ADS-B stopped reporting. Very strange.
great info fren-ty
where's the evidence that it was shot down?
I'm waiting for the government to admit it.
why though? there's nothong to suggest it was shot down
A small engine aircraft shouldn't have turned into a small burned spot with no wreckage. In my opinion that indicates a mid-air break up. What breaks up a plane in mid-air? A missile would.
The flares are a bit of an odd detail though. If they had shot a missile or missiles and they wanted to hide it, a flares excuse could work to throw any eyewitness accounts into doubt.
The photos are highly suspicious. Modern airframes are built to handle incredible levels of stress. The debris from the crash looks far more like a craft that was shot down with an air to air missile than one that crashed "normally". A normal crash would leave much larger pieces of wreckage based on my experience.
However, I would invite any planefags to correct me here.
EDIT: A fellow pede wisely pointed out that if the craft was shot down, we'd see a much wider, more scattered debris field. So either the plane somehow disintegrated on impact, or these photos are completely contrived. But again, I'll defer to any planefags on here that can correct me. Just odd to me to see a crash result in such tiny fragments given the engineering involved.
if an air to air missile vaporized the plane in the air, it would be spread out over a very large area. if the missile didn't vaporize it and only destroyed half, there would be an impact site with half a plane.
if i had to make a wild guess... it looks kindof like a normal crash site that has been combed for evidence and torched.
that seems a bit far fetched too, though. but possible if someone were determined enough
That's a good point, 289. One would expect the debris field to be much wider than this if the craft was shot down.
And there wasn’t anyone in it.
That is a very distinct posibilty. I think we may be looking at a blackhat false flag operation to try to blame Trump or the anons for an attack since the planes owner was associated with Trump. If that is the case the military would certainly be justified in taking it down.
It could also be a white hat op to remove the NRA people from the public view. For the same reason- they’re associated with Trump.