I’m posting this to welcome other similar research and articles about faith fighting back. This is Biblical Anons. It doesn’t matter what God loving religion you’re part of, it’s God and God alone channeling all whom love and believe in him to fight back against the Cabal. God knows Where We Go One We Go All, together with him. And the flood has started! Christians of all denominations, Jews, and Muslims are about to join forces. Though they differ in Saints, Prophets, disciples, leaders, God’s true name, how the stories go together book to book, who’s religious tome is oldest and its archeological artifacts, and their belief in Christ, one piece, one piece binds us all as brothers and sisters; it is thee same 1 and only God. We all love God and slowly……very very slowly, but maybe now we are all learning and accepting we need to be on the same side, together to defeat the Cabal world-wide.
And the US has certainly become the world’s experimental melting pot for all God loving religions. But I believe what’s happening here will spread world wide to fight the Cabal.
So below I post these two articles to open the mind to put down the tongue sword of what God loving religion or their book is more correct or not! We ALL Love the same God PERIOD! And if we are to really win, reeeeally really win and beat the Cabal, we need to just listen to God himself. We all need to join together, go together, and take the Cabal out together.
Put other articles in this thread that you find. Show us your place of worship or God stands with Patriots world wide, with God together to fight back against the evil and tyranny. Much love and respect Anons and Patriots, and God bless each of you.
Where We Go One We Go All, TOGETHER, with our one God.
I can appreciate their effort atm, but we don't love the same God brother.
Well, appreciating their effort is a first step, anyway. But is God the God that you think he is in every way? If God is greater than what you understand, which humility dictates, that means that your concept of God is not, cannot be, God himself. And remember: Lucifer's sin was that he was 100% convinced that he know the whole story, and decided that he should be ruler, not Adam.
It's not easy to combine and merge unwavering conviction with real humility. In my experience, only God's presence, and love, can do that.
My point here is not to suggest that your sense of conviction should be ignored, but humility requires, in my opinion, that as believers, we grasp a fundamental fact: we do NOT know the whole story. Or, to put it in Paul's words:
"Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
There's a reason why Paul made this astonishing declaration before the mic-drop next statement:
And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love.…
Faith is the power generated by our belief, by our belief in the concept or understanding of God that we acquire through truth. But ultimately, love is even greater than that.
That's fine and all man, but none of what you said is more than generally nice statements. You can say all you want, but God makes it very clear in various places if you don't have the Son, the same hath not the Father. If you deny the Son, you deny the Father. Everyone of these folk will die in their sins and go to hell, denying the Son. The manner in which His people (in faith) would be redeemed has been made manifest. Faith IN God's provision which IS the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ which is God made flesh skirting all the silly technical debates that distract from the point. Belief in that is how GOD sorts people, heaven and hell. So yeah, it's kind of a dividing point for everyone that gets the gravity of the intentional specificity we have in declaring Jesus and not this general idea behind God. If they wanna be allies in the flesh, we can stand shoulder to shoulder, but at the end of the day they too like the Israelites that profited from the believing Israelites blessings while in unbelief themselves, afterward were to be destroyed.
I agree with you completely and would love to hear your thoughts on this video (20mins) with Andrew Tate on why he went from Atheist to Christian to Muslim.
https://youtu.be/KZN7EGkIrCQ
I was listening trying to find terms and key dead giveaways that indicate a lack of understanding of our relation to God in terms of Grace and Mercy as I think it's essential. Grace being freely given positive things without deserving them, with mercy being NOT given punishment we do deserve. In essence, His mercy with holds the punishment of hell which is deserving in the flesh, with His grace applying His righteousness to us giving us rewards undeserving (heaven). If you mix the two, it's the old works / salvation being intermingled as the wool and linen forbade in imagery of the old testament (wool/Lamb/Jesus/His Blood) vs (linen/flax/produce/our works of righteousness).
3:15 Patrick cites Tate in context of Islam being the last religion states "Cause you've gotta earn His right, I wanna earn your right and respect." God isn't impressed with a single thing we do, except when we put on His righteousness through faith in Christ, and that's only because He now sees His own works. Our own works are an outward witness to the world, so that like James 2 "faith without works is dead being alone" the man witnessing the non-working believer doesn't say to us "Show me your works" God sees our faith man sees our works is my point. We are justified by God to God by our faith alone, and justified by man to man by our works alone. Mixing the two, is the issue here. We don't earn God's respect, we do however align with Him. So actual Christianity framed properly is very different than Islam or falsely so-called Christian groups and the rest of religion as a whole, in that if you go into it with the idea that you are going to get to earn heaven by being good. Then you are going to just see yet another religion that's in the grab bag that can fit your line of thinking to pull you away from turning from trusting in your own works to go to heaven, and fully trusting in the finished work of the cross. Praise Jesus for loving us so much He made it easy even for simple people like myself.
I think framing it that there needing to be an equal and opposite force of evil and good is strange to claim as well, as I get the Yin and Yang aspect people want to integrate. But there was a time prior to Satan's fall, that there wasn't. There will also be a time after the resurrection, where there isn't. It also already isn't really as only ~ 1/3rd of the angels fell and the strongest amongst them being Satan combined with all of them isn't even close to equal with God. Satan doesn't rule over hell, he's destined to be burned there "in the presense of the Lamb" whom actually rules over heaven AND hell contrary to popular framing. Kind of silly all around tbh.
A lot of talk about demanding respect, needing to be feared which is what people thought Jesus was going to show up and do the first time and He didn't. He came and served, with humility. Roasted folk like nobody else, but He didn't come demanding to be respected, which is who we follow. I think it's just a case of people getting caught up in the spirit of religion as an idea, then testing the options as equal offerings. Which is understandable, I think a lot of it is relatable logic they are saying, but it's ultimately a carnalization of an attempt to observe the supernatural. They are flesh and bone and die to be judged off what they did. We are flesh and bone, with a born again Spirit that'll never die. Leading to a lot of texts addressing this life we still have left to live out, knowing with our own faults He will complete this good work He started in us at the resurrection of our flesh, and other texts addressing the coming life in which we are fully redeemed that people misapply to the now. We sit, strangers, foreigners in this land waiting the redemption of our body also. Strangers and foreigners and remnant type language for us always used isn't compatible with the idea of a true religion dominating the planet. It's about the minority, the few, the strait and narrow as it were. They belong here and are trying to show an extradimensional being that is impressed with nothing short of PERFECTION how they also deserve to be where He is, by means of...their own coming short of their own religions rules.
Andrew Tate is a CON MAN.
He is happy to STEAL MONEY from any dude, as long as he gets PAID.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/139/274/243/original/4326c2e42adf3b38.mp4
Some things he says are valid, but he is an asshole. Ignore him.
But the Son and father are also seen as one in the same. Don’t get me wrong, I’m Christian, but with my eyes wide open, God is God is God, including his born earthly form of Christ, or His Son. But God regardless of religious book is the one and same God. Just different human points of view and faith towards the same Being, the 1 true God to all.
I appreciate that you view it like that. You're entitled. But to the way I see things, none of what you have re-recited contradicts what I am saying.
I firmly believe in a higher standard where the contradictions are resolved, but I understand that not everyone sees that.
The fact that Christ is the doorway, and the key to salvation does not preclude the truth that God has worked in myriad ways to being all of humanity to Christ.
Why did the Father prepare the Israelite nation for 2000 years before sending Jesus? Random? No reason?
The truth of our Christian history is that our theological deliberations for the past 2000 years are limited. Failure to recognize that puts one, I believe, in the very serious danger of becoming those who actually hinder the work of God instead of advancing it, as Jesus himself warned:
On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
Thanks for responding.
You completely missed the anon's point: Not ALL of these religions actually follow the SAME god.
See Rev 3:9 as an example.
I did not miss the anon's point. I disagreed with it; specifically, the anon's particular theological viewpoint.
Theology doesn't save. Christ does.
I agree with you, actually, but I do think that all people of faith COULD unite behind the idea of the one thing all free persons want to experience - being left alone.
The problem is, there are psychopaths in this world who will just NOT leave people alone.
We must first recognize this FACT OF LIFE.
Then, we must DO something about it by shining light on these assholes, and then putting them in prison.
That takes ACTION, not merely faith.
yeah, the psychopaths who won't leave people alone end up in elected and unelected positions and positions of power such as running social media companies.
Yes haha! Then there is that too. ;)
This is what we don’t need right now, being divisive. This is what God is trying to get across. Listen outside the box Anon. It’s time to accept we whom believe in thee 1 God, all love or have faith in the same God period. No other explanation needed.
Stop with the New Age beliefs.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
But only if you follow the New Testament. For 2 of our largest God following religions, and many even Christian sects, they do not fully go in full faith of Christ alone being the only way.
But all of them regardless of sect, follow the Old Testament which only has 1 God. The Father if you will. That’s what I’m getting at as a joining point. Upon God himself outside of Christ, John, Paul, Mohammad, James Smith, etc. the commonality of all 1 God religions/sects is God himself. It is the tie that should bind. But instead humanity has chosen to discount each other up all the way to killing each other periodically over the differences in belief/faith, when at the center of it all is 1 dude, 1 God only. Not 4, 5, or 600 different variants, but one and the same God.
Whether you follow the new testament or not is irrelevant. Jesus is lord of all.
Agreed.
I disagree. Jesus is God is what I'm "dividing" off of. Dont even go down that road.
Is this censorship?
I have a direct relationship with God and no relationship with Jesus or any other human-constructed intermediary.
I have no religion, New Age or otherwise.
Awakening involves accepting some unpleasant truths ... unpleasant, only at first, perhaps.
Jesus is “human-constructed???” That is illogical on so many levels.
Brother, what we need more than anything is truth. I must qualify my statement and I pray to do it in love because I know what I’m capable of.
Truth—the very nature and essence of eternal, objective, and moral truth—comes from God the Creator, Savior, and author of Scripture (the Bible). It stands alone and is self-authenticating. Any ideology, religion, or text (all others than Scripture alone) that contradict God and His Word are unacceptable and must be rightly rejected. The exclusivity of God and His truth, then, are by nature, set apart in division from all others.
Islam, for example, does not believe in the God of the Bible nor the Bible. The distinction between Christianity and Islam (which is not a denomination of Christianity) is the subject of atonement. Atonement is the covering over and total removal as of sin by way of the death of the Son of God in His sacrifice to atone for our sin. Islam, however, utterly rejects both the concept and necessity of atonement. Exhibit A (sauce): https://www.gotquestions.org/same-God.html
In Islam, Jesus, or P’bu, was merely a prophet (not divine and not the Son of God) and according to their eschatology (theology of the end of the age) P’bu returns to correct the Christians on this matter. Furthermore, the Mahdi (and Dajjal, his cohort) return to “shatter crosses,” the cross being the very instrument of the sacrificial death of Christ in Christian text, the Bible.
Given Islam is diametrically opposed to atonement and rejects Trinitarian theology (even in their Shahada—there is only “one God”), therefore Islam is not qualified as a denomination since it is an entirely different religion altogether. God, by nature of Himself, according to His truth, would never violate logic, reason, or truth. Nor would He contradict or deny Himself.
I understand the urgency of people from every religion among humanity needing to hold fast together against the deep state, but our trust and faith is the very foundation and hope on which all human history hinges and stands upon. Consequently, even to the fine details of Q, the U.S., our history, our future, and the far-reaching implications and ripple effects to the ends of the earth (regarding the deep state, swamp, Satan etc.), we must, as Christians, not abandon our highest duty and calling to trust in Christ alone and proclaim the gospel.
The concept of division by the sword (faith in Christ dividing families, friends, loved ones etc.) extends even to the conclusion of human history regarding wars, rumors of wars, and nations rising up against each other, regardless of where precisely that lands on our perceived respective timelines and order of events (as they occur in Scripture). I urge you, brother ❤️, to seriously consider what it means to stand firm on and for the truth, God’s truth, His Word, and His promises. Our hope is in Christ alone. God bless you.
This should motivate us:
Romans 10:10-14 (ESV)
10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?
There is another hopeful movement, and that is unraveling Islam. It grew from the anti-Trinitarian Christians in Petra and was further perverted to serve the aims of some very wicked men. The proto-Koran was a book of hymns to Jesus. Check it out, this is a linguistic research which was suppressed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/8120819527?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
All the modern stuff is built on rumors and fantasy and if this isn't major satanic effort I don't know what is. Instead of hating on the Muslims we should be praying for mercy for them in their deception.
Here’s a truth for you. (ALLAH). Doesn’t mean GOD OF ISLAM. Because Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God ALLAH also it’s the ARABIC equivalent of GOD.
Arabic-speaking Christians call God Allah. That may be jarring to modern day US Christians (who tend to think of Allah as “the god of Islam”), but the term existed in the Arabic world long before Islam arrived on the scene, and it is the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew word Elohim.
English is about 1500 years old. Arabic is over 2500 years old.
Splitting hairs and changing the context in which I referred to God (from the perspective of Muslims who are not Christians) does not somehow make your statement a legitimate or meaningful response or rebuttal to what I said.
My overall argument is the denial of the Trinity and the necessity of atonement, not names and titles of different cultures as relating to God.
In your argument, people who believe in Christ as Savior use the title Allah in accordance with their language and culture. In my argument, devout Muslims reject Jesus as Savior and the need for atonement.
The nature and spirit of debate depends on listening, interpreting, properly representing opposing views, and then responding to those statements and beliefs.
Here this is Genesis 1:1-5 in Arabic:
Google translate it if you don’t believe me.
Allah (God) mentioned 6 times in the Arabic version opposed to 5 in English.
الله = Allah = GOD
1 في البدء خلق الله السماوات والارض. 2 وكانت الارض خربة وخالية، وعلى وجه الغمر ظلمة، وروح الله يرف على وجه المياه. 3 وقال الله: «ليكن نور»، فكان نور. 4 وراى الله النور انه حسن. وفصل الله بين النور والظلمة. 5 ودعا الله النور نهارا، والظلمة دعاها ليلا. وكان مساء وكان صباح يوما واحدا.
We do not believe in the same God. The same God believes in us: Father, son, and Holy Spirit. We do not determine who God is. God determines who we are.
NOT true!
You need to WAKE UP to the reality of the world.
Buddhism and Hinduism have not much in common with the Western religions.
Among the Western religions, we have serious differences:
Christianity -- New Testament and Old Testament. Where the NT and OT differ, Christians follow the NT.
Islam -- Quran and the Torah and a few other books. Where the Quran and others differ, Muslims follow the Quran.
Judaism -- Talmud and Torah. Where the Talmud and Torah differ, Jews follow the Talmud. They also have the Jewish Encyclopedia which makes "official" the Jewish view of what their various books mean. THIS is a BIG problem for the world because their own books say they do NOT follow the SAME god as Christians (or Muslims, much less Buddhists or Hindus).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JQrnKhKDwNpg/
People who disagree with your point here, Brent, largely do so because they abor under the illusion that they understand the whole story, whereas Paul was explicit about the fact that he didn't grasp the whole picture, and Jesus was explicit about refraining from sharing certainly 'heavenly' truths with his disciples because they weren't ready.
Then there are those who think the infinite creator, the Heavenly Father, can be limited to their own understanding of Him. When someone says "we don't love the same God" they are deliberately ignoring the truth, which is "they do not have the same CONCEPT of God as I do" while equating their own concept of God with God himself. God is NOT the concept I have of God. God is real and transcends.
If I own a car, and when I look at it, I see the cost of running it, how much it cost me, where it can go and how it is operated, but my little boy sees something entirely different. He might even see a really big massive toy that Daddy owns. Or, an ignorant islander from a deserted South Pacific island might look at that car and think its a wild creature that somehow I have tamed.
But to then go around and say "Oh, the car they are talking about is not the car I am talking about" would be foolish.
It's the same car, but the understanding is different.
Christian faithful should, in my opinion, be grateful that our understanding of God as Christians is on a completely different level to those other faiths. We should also be humble that God has blessed us with that understanding, while recognizing that we, too, do NOT know the whole story (there is much to be revealed, as Jesus and Paul indicate).
(Even among the faithful we are usually united by common points of understanding, but if there is one thing in Christian history that is true, its that division and conflict among those who profess to honor, love and believe in Jesus is directly traceable to different Christians asserting that their own view is THE correct one, and everyone else is wrong. The truth is, none of us has a perfect understanding of God or Christ, and that even among the faithful, we are all at different levels despite our common beliefs.)
With gratitude and humility, the faithful should seek to understand WHY these others faiths see our Creator the way they do. We might then be able to actually understanding them, and aid them, and even grasp whether God was in fact teaching them something as a stepping stone to Christ, instead of thinking or believing that our own concept or understanding of God and Christ is so wonderful and unique and perfect. Truth leans into humility, not away from it.
It would be wise for us to recall the parable of the talents....
Agreed.
I love our pedes and we have many wonderful faithful pedes. God is indeed awakening the world, and the sovereignty of Christ over the world is being enacted day by day.
But it's not easy to give up 'one's sacred cows' aka one's theological certainties, particularly if they are the main bedrock of one's faith and sense of security.
Those who emphasize the uniqueness of Christ and the necessity of accepting Christ are not wrong, but in to great a focus, they fail to grasp a bigger picture. Peter, Jesus' most trusted disciple, is a good example. Even though he got it wrong so often, yet it was his openness of heart that allowed him to find faith in Jesus, a faith that was not theological in basis, but reality (relationship) in basis. The theology came after.
The problem with many today, however, is that the theology comes first, and this then dictates the type of relationship they build. The only way to get around this is love and heart; to cling to the love of Christ above and beyond the theology that we've inherited. Not to abandon the theology, but to simply recognize that a) it is inherently limited and b) Christ must stand the center, not theology, and hence, openness of heart must always be the first and theology the instrument, the tool, never the master.
Only Jesus is master, and we can only ever truly know Christ through love, not through theology.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and everyone is free to upvote/downvote comments. But I fail to see how anyone could downvote this. What is controversial? That God The Supreme Being? That God is beyond our complete understanding? NO PERSON LIVING ON EARTH has a complete grasp of God. It is beyond our abilities. If you believe there is a supreme being who has given us EVERYTHING (including the ability to doubt), and believe it is our duty to serve Him and His purposes, I am with you.
I will offer this:
Natural/General Revelation: all of creation testifies to the existence of the Creator, and that coupled with God’s moral law written in our heart (the human conscience) is what makes us accountable to our Judge for rejecting Him. - - - Scripture evidence: Psalm19:1-6 - - - 1 The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. 2 Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. 3 There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. 4 Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, 5 which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. 6 Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them, and there is nothing hidden from its heat.
Special Revelation (the revelation from God that can save the soul): God revealing Himself through miraculous means, such as His law, Scripture, and His Son. - - - Scripture evidence - - - Psalm 19:7-14 - - -
7 The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; 8 the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; 9 the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the rules[d] of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether. 10 More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb. 11 Moreover, by them is your servant warned; in keeping them there is great reward. 12 Who can discern his errors? Declare me innocent from hidden faults. 13 Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me! Then I shall be blameless, and innocent of great transgression. 14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer.
New Testament counterpart:
Hebrews 1:1-3 - - - Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
All people from all regions of the earth have enough knowledge externally and internally to know they are accountable to the supreme Judge of the universe, and that is how God will draw people to Himself. They know enough to be damned.
But to come all the way into salvation requires special revelation from God that the sinner would believe in God as their redeemer, Savior (from the OT to the NT).
Kek. There is nothing like a theological discussion to engender the downvote fingers. It's par for the course. What we are seeing in real time directly verifies my point: our theological understandings are limited, and this is why Christianity has continually divided and fractured more and more with the flow of time.
People want to hold on to their theologicla (aka 'human' aka limited) understandings, instead of allowing God to work in humility via the holy Spirit. The issues at play are the very same issues being fought over in our current (final) 5G war: how humans grasp on to truth but then transform truth into workable (aka applicable) concepts of reality. yet, too many fail to recognize that the map is not the territory. They seek a sense of security in their concept of truth, failing to realize that the truth transcends them.
When you no longer identify purely with your concept of truth, but instead recognize that God inherently requires you to have faith in Him, not in a concept or a theological understanding of him, then that humility opens the door.
It's very hard however. It's like asking people who trust the govt and the propaganda machine to question all that and find a sense of security in something else. It's extremely difficult to do, because people require that sense of security. Only when your sense of security rests in something other than the propaganda you are sold can you begin to question it. Thus, questioning the narrative matrix requires self-reflection, and a willingness to confront one's fears. That requires a faith in something higher than, or deeper than, the matrix.
The same is true of theological understanding. The very reason the Israelite leadership rejected and crucified Jesus was because in the hardness of their hearts, they held onto their theological understanding of God, themselves, and everything they'd been raised on, instead of stepping out in humility to be open to what Jesus was telling them: There is a better way; there is a higher understanding; I am the embodiment of that way; you should drop your beliefs, not because they are wrong, but because they are now outdated. Come to me!
But they hated him, because they could not let go of what to them was their security; their theological traditions inherited from Moses; their own concept of God and of themselves are the chosen people. And in that moment, they lost their qualification as the chosen people. They failed to upgrade.
The lessons are crystal clear, and the New Testament is rife with the warnings; yet so many of the Christian faithful fall into the exact same pit, just one with a different name.
But I have faith in God. At some point, it will become undeniable, and those whose hearts are open will rise above the one's with all the theological certainty, just as Peter accepted Christ, while Ciaphas rejected him.