This will go down in history as one of the greatest psyops in military history. I'm damn impressed at the Russians for pulling that off. Our gullible media bought it hook line and sinker too.
That $7 billion of OUR money is the only thing that keeps me from enjoying this completely. Think I might call the Kremlin customer service department and see if I can't get my money back somehow.
"Good morning, Comrade, I see you are asking how to identify as Russian mercenary group on IRS tax documents, da? Is easy, let me walk you through the process." 😁
BUT, we, the People may have lost the tax dollars BUT the pants & shorts have been pulled down and exposed the media and the incompetents in the US GOVERNMENT...which is even better!!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I believe the $7B is the $6.2B the CIA admitted to "losing" in the Ukraine budget. Allegedly, this was the payoff for Wagner to turn on Putin, and instead the CIA got played for chumps.
ETA: running on low sleep, so if I mixed up a name, sorry!
I really hope all those reporters sipping coffee at the outdoor cafe and then dressing up as Ernie Pyle, staging and spinning war footage for the Cabal get a taste of the real thing.
The thing is, it’s not really that complex, Putin just counted on his opponent being a bunch of morons. They didn’t disappoint. It wasn’t exactly the Normandy invasion. Hmmm, “Invasion for Dummies”……. Let’s run a “Chapter 3” on NATO and the CIA. The Cold War guys I believe would run a train on today’s CIA, one time pad’s, dead drop’s, exc. There was a period in the early 1970’s I believe where the KGB and CIA started taking each other out, it got so bad that both sides had to come together and declare a truce of sorts. Europe for a few years had dead CIA and KGB officers everywhere. Intelligence and spying to a point plays an important role for both side’s, both sides recognize it keeps each side from misinterpreting the other side’s motives and can prevent dangerous misunderstandings that can lead to conflict. I believe this US vs. Russia paradigm has been a concoction of the cabal same as the Germany against Russia. I really do like the Russian people, it has been a goal of the Cabal to keep us at odds, together we would make an enemy of evil too great for them to handle and they know it.
Getting across the Danube River is going to be costly and complicated, well let’s go up and over then. Now we know the purpose of the tactical nukes in Belarus, a chess piece blocking NATO’s knight. All of Ukraine’s equipment is in the east and Kiev is unprotected for the most part. Now with the failed offensive, Ukraine has 3 options 1. Pull what they have left and run to the aid of Kiev. This leaves the Russians to break through what defenses they can leave in position and possibly overtake the Kiev rescue forces.
2. Move the government out of Kiev ahead of advancing Russians.
3. Start WWlll and possibly use nukes.
Let us pray they don’t choose option three.
And the CIA agreement ensured that cruise missiles and HIMARs wouldn’t tear their armored columns apart on the way there, just a nice Sunday drive up to Belarus with some CIA walking around money. That said this war is a slaughter and needs to be stopped, I watched a video of Ukraine soldiers caught in a mine field and it was just plain disturbing and I’m not easily rattled.
...what you are seeing distroyed. are the raw conscripted(kidnapped) human fodder...
...the Ukrainian military columns have never come close to engaging Russia's first line of defense, the minefields are outer perimeter nuisance zones....
This is depopulation of Ukraine, the men are slaughtered on the battlefield while the women and children are displaced throughout Europe as a permanent underclass. If they decide to return they will find their land is now owned by BlackRock and are no longer welcome. Their land, homes will be gone, their husbands and fathers dead.
Today with great fanfare they report Ukraine has taken fifty square miles from the Russians. So the situation must be bad now that they realized they’ve been played.
The Wagner Group is a professional army of paramilitary men, numbering about 25,000, and who have been working for Russia for pay. The leader seems to have been paid around $7 Billion by the CIA to turn on Russia and cause them to lose focus in Ukraine... BUT it was a ploy... the Wagner Group, most likely with Putiin's knowledge and approval, took the money and made moves that could be interpreted as "moving on Moscow." Moscow joined in the ruse and set up barricades and such, but as it turns out, the Wagner Group was not really heading to Moscow after all, but rather were positioning themselves to better attack Kiev.
Taking Kiev would be the major move that would ensure that Ukraine is in Russian hands. The Wagner Group is now about 100 km from Kiev and the city is being encircled by Russian forces.
The CIA is coming off as gullible buffoons and the American taxpayer is being stuck with the bill. As usual.
Difficult. Intel would find out about such a movement, and Ukraine could prepare better. I don't know, what happened, but if a large portion of Wagner really is 100 Km away from Kiev, that's quite something.
Lukashenko couldn't allow the russian Army or Wagner to operate out of Belarus, it would become a combatant nation. Now... Wagner can do whatever they want and Lukashenko simply can condemn the action Wagner takes.
That's right, but what optics are better? Moving in secret, putting Lukashenko into a very sketchy position, or this charade exiling Prigoschin in Belarus?
Prugoschin is definitely on the kill list now so it’s time for him to exit the stage. I imagine in the future there will be military leaders that are purely fictional that can be nothing but actors and AI. They can be killed, exiled, hunted or executed all to build a narrative or lead the enemy into expending resources chasing a ghost. I’m sure it’s been done in the past. Actually they did that with Patton leading up to the D-day invasion, but in this case Patton wouldn’t have existed at all.
The “mutiny” was a ruse, it would have been necessary to even convince the Wagner Group soldiers that they were in a mutiny. Operational security would be of utmost importance in an operation like this, they probably still believe the Putin negotiations were real. This is a real dangerous phase, a shit ton of military assets are in Europe right now. Anyone “plane fagging” see’s it, C-17’s have been stacking up like the 405 freeway at rush hour. NATO has intelligence aircraft and kh-11 spy satellites covering all electronic communications. To pull this off even the people in the know would almost have to believe the ruse, one comment on a phone call or radio could give it all away.
I don't know squat about military anything, but it makes sense to me that you would use a mercenary army in such a maneuver because getting loyal troops to buy into a mutiny would be much harder.
This will go down in history as one of the greatest psyops in military history. I'm damn impressed at the Russians for pulling that off. Our gullible media bought it hook line and sinker too.
The russies were always good at info warfare.
I am sorry. So what happened? Did Wagner people unable to read maps and got lost?
...the move on Moscow was a ploy to covertly advance onto Keiv....
^^^ THIS ^^^
Plus they extorted $7 Billion out of the CIA in the meantime. Our tax dollars, HARD AT WORK!!
That $7 billion of OUR money is the only thing that keeps me from enjoying this completely. Think I might call the Kremlin customer service department and see if I can't get my money back somehow.
If you do, old dog, put in a good word for me too... I could use those funds right now to buy some more ammo.
"Good morning, Comrade, I see you are asking how to identify as Russian mercenary group on IRS tax documents, da? Is easy, let me walk you through the process." 😁
Careful, the FEEBs have NO sense of humor and will jot this down as terrorist conspiracy.
😅
BUT, we, the People may have lost the tax dollars BUT the pants & shorts have been pulled down and exposed the media and the incompetents in the US GOVERNMENT...which is even better!!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Source on the 7 B?
I believe the $7B is the $6.2B the CIA admitted to "losing" in the Ukraine budget. Allegedly, this was the payoff for Wagner to turn on Putin, and instead the CIA got played for chumps.
ETA: running on low sleep, so if I mixed up a name, sorry!
Yes, this.
Do you have the location of Moscow on the map? I still think they got lost. LOL
https://www.nationsonline.org/maps/European-Russia-Map-L.jpg
They went south instead of north. Ok. LOL
https://johnhelmer.net/putin-orders-reality-check-no-ukrainians-left-on-the-battlefield-no-sovereignty-in-kiev/
Thanks dog. I am just a brain dead. No wonder I don't understand.
...it's all good...
I really hope all those reporters sipping coffee at the outdoor cafe and then dressing up as Ernie Pyle, staging and spinning war footage for the Cabal get a taste of the real thing.
...absolutely...
No, Prigozhin of Wagner Group will go into "exile" in Belarus but will not face prosecution from Russia.
And after some years have passed, he will be pardoned c.q. his ban will be lifted.
The ban-ality of brilliant military moves.
The thing is, it’s not really that complex, Putin just counted on his opponent being a bunch of morons. They didn’t disappoint. It wasn’t exactly the Normandy invasion. Hmmm, “Invasion for Dummies”……. Let’s run a “Chapter 3” on NATO and the CIA. The Cold War guys I believe would run a train on today’s CIA, one time pad’s, dead drop’s, exc. There was a period in the early 1970’s I believe where the KGB and CIA started taking each other out, it got so bad that both sides had to come together and declare a truce of sorts. Europe for a few years had dead CIA and KGB officers everywhere. Intelligence and spying to a point plays an important role for both side’s, both sides recognize it keeps each side from misinterpreting the other side’s motives and can prevent dangerous misunderstandings that can lead to conflict. I believe this US vs. Russia paradigm has been a concoction of the cabal same as the Germany against Russia. I really do like the Russian people, it has been a goal of the Cabal to keep us at odds, together we would make an enemy of evil too great for them to handle and they know it.
I think you're onto something, good analysis.
A map puts a lot of stuff into perspective.
https://www.nationsonline.org/maps/European-Russia-Map-L.jpg
Getting across the Danube River is going to be costly and complicated, well let’s go up and over then. Now we know the purpose of the tactical nukes in Belarus, a chess piece blocking NATO’s knight. All of Ukraine’s equipment is in the east and Kiev is unprotected for the most part. Now with the failed offensive, Ukraine has 3 options 1. Pull what they have left and run to the aid of Kiev. This leaves the Russians to break through what defenses they can leave in position and possibly overtake the Kiev rescue forces. 2. Move the government out of Kiev ahead of advancing Russians. 3. Start WWlll and possibly use nukes. Let us pray they don’t choose option three.
...compelling observations, nicely stated...
And the CIA agreement ensured that cruise missiles and HIMARs wouldn’t tear their armored columns apart on the way there, just a nice Sunday drive up to Belarus with some CIA walking around money. That said this war is a slaughter and needs to be stopped, I watched a video of Ukraine soldiers caught in a mine field and it was just plain disturbing and I’m not easily rattled.
...wanton death is never pleasant to observe....
...what you are seeing distroyed. are the raw conscripted(kidnapped) human fodder...
...the Ukrainian military columns have never come close to engaging Russia's first line of defense, the minefields are outer perimeter nuisance zones....
Such a shameful display, my faith in everything is wavering.
...hold the line Patriot....
This is depopulation of Ukraine, the men are slaughtered on the battlefield while the women and children are displaced throughout Europe as a permanent underclass. If they decide to return they will find their land is now owned by BlackRock and are no longer welcome. Their land, homes will be gone, their husbands and fathers dead.
...filed under "Highly Probable"....
Yeah, but the Biden Admin are absolute masters of checkers... um.. or maybe it's 3-card monty... Oh what the hell, Tic Tac Toe.
...howls...
Today with great fanfare they report Ukraine has taken fifty square miles from the Russians. So the situation must be bad now that they realized they’ve been played.
What happened here and who is Wagner? I’m so lost so much happened so fast i’m tryna catch up
The Wagner Group is a professional army of paramilitary men, numbering about 25,000, and who have been working for Russia for pay. The leader seems to have been paid around $7 Billion by the CIA to turn on Russia and cause them to lose focus in Ukraine... BUT it was a ploy... the Wagner Group, most likely with Putiin's knowledge and approval, took the money and made moves that could be interpreted as "moving on Moscow." Moscow joined in the ruse and set up barricades and such, but as it turns out, the Wagner Group was not really heading to Moscow after all, but rather were positioning themselves to better attack Kiev.
Taking Kiev would be the major move that would ensure that Ukraine is in Russian hands. The Wagner Group is now about 100 km from Kiev and the city is being encircled by Russian forces.
The CIA is coming off as gullible buffoons and the American taxpayer is being stuck with the bill. As usual.
Wagner is a mercenary army for Russia that was reported to have rebelled against Putin and started to stage a coup on Moscow. A day later, nevermind.
I want to believe, but couldn't Wagner have silently moved into Belarus without this "mutiny"?
Difficult. Intel would find out about such a movement, and Ukraine could prepare better. I don't know, what happened, but if a large portion of Wagner really is 100 Km away from Kiev, that's quite something.
Lukashenko couldn't allow the russian Army or Wagner to operate out of Belarus, it would become a combatant nation. Now... Wagner can do whatever they want and Lukashenko simply can condemn the action Wagner takes.
Let's see, what habbens.
Russia just moved tactical nukes to Belarus, too. Chess moves, indeed.
Intel knows about it either way.
That's right, but what optics are better? Moving in secret, putting Lukashenko into a very sketchy position, or this charade exiling Prigoschin in Belarus?
Prugoschin is definitely on the kill list now so it’s time for him to exit the stage. I imagine in the future there will be military leaders that are purely fictional that can be nothing but actors and AI. They can be killed, exiled, hunted or executed all to build a narrative or lead the enemy into expending resources chasing a ghost. I’m sure it’s been done in the past. Actually they did that with Patton leading up to the D-day invasion, but in this case Patton wouldn’t have existed at all.
The “mutiny” was a ruse, it would have been necessary to even convince the Wagner Group soldiers that they were in a mutiny. Operational security would be of utmost importance in an operation like this, they probably still believe the Putin negotiations were real. This is a real dangerous phase, a shit ton of military assets are in Europe right now. Anyone “plane fagging” see’s it, C-17’s have been stacking up like the 405 freeway at rush hour. NATO has intelligence aircraft and kh-11 spy satellites covering all electronic communications. To pull this off even the people in the know would almost have to believe the ruse, one comment on a phone call or radio could give it all away.
I don't know squat about military anything, but it makes sense to me that you would use a mercenary army in such a maneuver because getting loyal troops to buy into a mutiny would be much harder.
Sun Tzu will be proud
...absolutely...