The first link in that thread goes to the articles of Incorporation for the United States Corporation Company, which is a company that helps to create corporate entities within the United States and acts as agent for them. It is NOT "The United States as a Corporation." That doesn't mean there is no fuckery there, but it is not the fuckery people espouse it as. Anyone who actually reads the articles of incorporation can see that straight up. It has no capacity within it's articles of incorporation to serve as a governing body. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH the United States as some sort of new corporate entity.
To say "a corporation" means an entity "that is brought into existence (AKA incorporated, or 'made corporeal') by an act of law." There are many types of "corporations." There are for profits (what people usually think "corporation" means). But there are also, non-profits, non-governmental organizations (NGOs), Trusts, Foundations, governmental corporations, etc. All of these do not exist until some specific legal system is used to create them. At the moment that some sovereign entity admits their existence within the legal framework, they become "incorporated," i.e. they become a legal entity. This legal entity then serves as a legal shield for the people who take actions in the name of the corporation, and any potential legal fallout ("Legal" means "within the framework and Jurisdiction of applicable law".) A corporation, no matter the type, has no meaning outside of the framework of the law that created it.
The original United States, which was incorporated by a document we call the "Constitution" is a "governmental corporation." The purpose of this corporation is to sue, or be sued, in lieu of the people who are running, or act as agents of, the corporation.
The Act of 1871 created a new corporate entity for the district of Columbia. I'm not entirely sure, but this may have been a violation of the Constitution which stated that the area of D.C. was specifically set aside to be under the control of the United States Government (the legal name of this 1787 corporation created by the Constitution is "The United States of America" AKA the USA). The new D.C. corporation (a municipal corporation) was set up such that the President of the USA (a governmental corporation) was also the CEO of the D.C. corp. The Senate, House, and Judicial branches of the USA were also set up as the Board of Directors, and Legal branches of the D.C. Corp.
Thus anything that goes on in D.C. under the name of D.C. corp could be easily misconstrued as going on under the name of USA, and vise versa, because all the same people are involved in the same capacity.
I don't know what specific actions may be fuckery there, if any, but this is what the Act of 1871 set up. A new government, that only applies to the District of Columbia.
The United States Corporation Company is a red herring. People need to appreciate that, because the entire argument falls apart on that point.
Not necessarily true at all. It just allows for possible fuckery. It doesn't in any way mean that it was used for that purpose. The original Constitution had all the fuckery it needed to lead us to where we are today contained within it already.
make general laws for territories and federal enclaves
make laws that affect the 50 states of the Union for purposes described in Article 1 Section 8.
The problem is Congress will not explicitly tell you which in a given law.
Congress's legislative powers are enumerated in Section Eight. Its 18 clauses are, in order:
The Congress shall have power
To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Native American Tribes;
To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Through the Constitution of the United States, the People did, however, find it prudent to delegate exceptional "police powers" to the federal government in a very limited number of specific places, and to the complete exclusion of the legislation of the States:
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17:
"To exercise exclusive legislative jurisdiction in all cases whatsoever, over such district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards and other needful buildings;
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If you search that case number of the supposed bankruptcy, 20-40375-KKS, you will find that it is NOT for the bankruptcy of the corporation.
I'd be careful with this one.
Edit: Interesting. There are two docs with that case number. This one: https://ecf.flnb.uscourts.gov/opinions/Opinion.aspx?id=330
And this one: https://ecf.flnb.uscourts.gov/opinions/Opinion.aspx?id=331
Yet they are completely different. Strange. I suspect foolery is afoot. Sequential ID numbers too.
THE CORPORATION OF AMERICA AND IT’S FALL PART 1
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The first link in that thread goes to the articles of Incorporation for the United States Corporation Company, which is a company that helps to create corporate entities within the United States and acts as agent for them. It is NOT "The United States as a Corporation." That doesn't mean there is no fuckery there, but it is not the fuckery people espouse it as. Anyone who actually reads the articles of incorporation can see that straight up. It has no capacity within it's articles of incorporation to serve as a governing body. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH the United States as some sort of new corporate entity.
To say "a corporation" means an entity "that is brought into existence (AKA incorporated, or 'made corporeal') by an act of law." There are many types of "corporations." There are for profits (what people usually think "corporation" means). But there are also, non-profits, non-governmental organizations (NGOs), Trusts, Foundations, governmental corporations, etc. All of these do not exist until some specific legal system is used to create them. At the moment that some sovereign entity admits their existence within the legal framework, they become "incorporated," i.e. they become a legal entity. This legal entity then serves as a legal shield for the people who take actions in the name of the corporation, and any potential legal fallout ("Legal" means "within the framework and Jurisdiction of applicable law".) A corporation, no matter the type, has no meaning outside of the framework of the law that created it.
The original United States, which was incorporated by a document we call the "Constitution" is a "governmental corporation." The purpose of this corporation is to sue, or be sued, in lieu of the people who are running, or act as agents of, the corporation.
The Act of 1871 created a new corporate entity for the district of Columbia. I'm not entirely sure, but this may have been a violation of the Constitution which stated that the area of D.C. was specifically set aside to be under the control of the United States Government (the legal name of this 1787 corporation created by the Constitution is "The United States of America" AKA the USA). The new D.C. corporation (a municipal corporation) was set up such that the President of the USA (a governmental corporation) was also the CEO of the D.C. corp. The Senate, House, and Judicial branches of the USA were also set up as the Board of Directors, and Legal branches of the D.C. Corp.
Thus anything that goes on in D.C. under the name of D.C. corp could be easily misconstrued as going on under the name of USA, and vise versa, because all the same people are involved in the same capacity.
I don't know what specific actions may be fuckery there, if any, but this is what the Act of 1871 set up. A new government, that only applies to the District of Columbia.
The United States Corporation Company is a red herring. People need to appreciate that, because the entire argument falls apart on that point.
Which, I'm assuming, would mean every piece of legislation passed since then would only apply to D.C.
Not necessarily true at all. It just allows for possible fuckery. It doesn't in any way mean that it was used for that purpose. The original Constitution had all the fuckery it needed to lead us to where we are today contained within it already.
This red herring needs a Chekov's gun, and that gun needs to go off soon.
Congress can
make general laws for territories and federal enclaves
make laws that affect the 50 states of the Union for purposes described in Article 1 Section 8.
The problem is Congress will not explicitly tell you which in a given law.
Congress's legislative powers are enumerated in Section Eight. Its 18 clauses are, in order:
Through the Constitution of the United States, the People did, however, find it prudent to delegate exceptional "police powers" to the federal government in a very limited number of specific places, and to the complete exclusion of the legislation of the States: