Unfortunately, not my father. He is so freaking brainwashed it's not even funny. We just had arguments about politics, politicians, masks, judges, voting and of course the vaxx (along with the flu shot & other shots he has willingly taken), and the people "suddenly" dying. He says he watches all the news sources but somehow has not seen all these athletes dying suddenly. He doesn't believe our own government will harm us. He doesn't see anything wrong with the illegals flooding in. He doesn't believe covid was made in a lab and says covid along with this "new strain" are different than normal flus and colds. He just got over cvd and now has bronchitis, but he feels good knowing he got all his shots. Also thinks the pcr tests work. He believes poopy pants actually won the election and hates Trump with a passion. True TDS! And his wife is right there with him on this shit. He said he will wear a mask if they tell him too. He tells me to give him proof of things I tell him, but I know he will not take anything seriously unless it comes from his brainwashing news. He told me that Tucker Carlson is a lying sack of shit, won't believe anything he says. I tried to tell him he interviewed a Colonel, but as soon as he heard me say Tucker, he went off on a tangent.
Lord please wake the still sleeping masses very soon, before more loved ones lose their lives.
Sorry for the rant but needed to vent a little after our call.
He will not believe anything I say on any of this, not without proof that he won't look up himself, and I know he won't take any sources I give him because he'll make up some crap not to believe the proof.
Though I'm thinking one thing he may have a hard time refuting is those videos with all the died suddenly people, because they show articles or social media proving these people took the vaxx and died suddenly, even showing some collapsing.
When I told him I will not wear a mask if they try to bring it back, of course he scoffed. He said what if someone wants to shoot you in the head (right between the eyes, yes he went there) for not wearing a mask? I said .. Oh so now you are ok with people shooting people if they don't wear a mask? He said no, but that's the kind of stuff happening, do you want that to happen to you? I told him I carry everywhere I go, so if someone pulls theirs, I will pull mine. I'm not wearing a mask for anyone, just to make them feel good about themselves. He said .. even if it's to keep others from getting sick? I said you know the masks don't work to keep you from getting a virus, right? Its right there on the mask box, it doesn't keep you from getting cvd. He got really quiet. I said masks don't stop virus particles, virus particles are so small they go through the masks and breathing in your own breath/oxygen isn't good for you. I still don't think it will change his mind on them, but maybe next time he will look at the box, lol.
The only thing that worked somewhat for me with family was to simply say "I give up, I've provided the published medical studies, the statistics, the videos, but you've made up your mind. I still care, but I'm done". Two years later some of them have had a change of heart on the jabs, but they certainly don't want to talk about it. .
PRIDE,
I wish I could hug you and sit and laugh at the beach with you as we breath a sigh of freedom !
I’m so sorry , the insanity is toxic , hence the besch and laughing ! If you ever get yo San Diego look me up ! We will continue to pray for your dad , my God that’s a heavy dose of brainwashing !
Gift them a print subscription to The Epoch Times. This newspaper puts out truth gently for normies and awakens them slowly. Seeing truth in print will make it more real to them than you telling them. I know, I hate that too but the important thing is that they awaken.
Unfortunately my liberal friends and family are beginning to abandon me simply because of my change of tune on Trump
I'd like to think that at least some liberals are getting a little squirmy with all the in-your-face stuff that's happening, and to see someone strong like yourself do a 180 may just be the catalyst they need to find their own courage to stand up and reject some of the insane nonsense that's going on, whether that's covid-related or trans-related or whatever. You're the beacon of light in their darkness!
I’m so happy for you ,, the freedom you must feel! Thank you for sharing your redemption story and for serving this great country! Let your people abandon you , we must keep moving! Eventually they will know the truth and you will cover them in prayer until that day ! Thank God you are on this board !
Yeah idk. I think a lot of tds has to do with daddy issues. The people i know afflicted with it had a very stern father and now just want to rebel against any actual rules. Nevermind that they're in their 30s, lol. They feel like all these "conspiracy theories" are things their father would have said and they'll side with anyone who gives them permission to tell him to fuck off
Well I didn't know my grandfather well enough to know his point of view on things, he passed when I was a little kid. Anyway, from what my father told me, his dad was very strict, his mother hated him and told his dad he was bad, and dad would hit him. That happened a lot apparently. I only remember seeing my grandmother once in passing. My father left for the army when he was 17, had to ask for their signatures to be able to join the army. He was a Drill Seargent, don't believe he ever saw combat. My parents split up when I was a toddler.
Well I think it's why they persistently won't "wake up" no matter what happens. Sort of like the Scott Adams angle on persuasion, that human beings usually employ logic to back up the emotional decision they already made. In this case it's not really about Trump and it's not really about "what he did wrong". Aside from general ridiculous statements ("that tweet was treason" type stuff) they cant even verbalize what they hate so much about him. "Mad at their dad" is my own armchair diagnosis
I'm not saying that the people who made the vax had the best of intentions in mind, but my 90 year old Grandpa took the vax and he's still kicking. The way some people here talk about it you'd think that it'd be an instakill for someone his age. I just can't see how if it didn't get him how it could be the explanation for these fitness people dropping dead.
Obvious. howbadismybatch tracks differences in kill and injury rates by batch, because they're different. If you've been around here honestly for any real time at all, you'd know this.
Obvious 2: graphene oxide is a molecular knife, most especially when the blood is acidic enough to hydrolyze it. How much lactic acid does a 90yo produce versus a top athlete?
You can also pray retroactively that whoever gave him the shots substituted saline out of mercy. I say this because God is not limited by time, and we can indeed pray for things in the past as much as we do for the future.
Unfortunately, not my father. He is so freaking brainwashed it's not even funny. We just had arguments about politics, politicians, masks, judges, voting and of course the vaxx (along with the flu shot & other shots he has willingly taken), and the people "suddenly" dying. He says he watches all the news sources but somehow has not seen all these athletes dying suddenly. He doesn't believe our own government will harm us. He doesn't see anything wrong with the illegals flooding in. He doesn't believe covid was made in a lab and says covid along with this "new strain" are different than normal flus and colds. He just got over cvd and now has bronchitis, but he feels good knowing he got all his shots. Also thinks the pcr tests work. He believes poopy pants actually won the election and hates Trump with a passion. True TDS! And his wife is right there with him on this shit. He said he will wear a mask if they tell him too. He tells me to give him proof of things I tell him, but I know he will not take anything seriously unless it comes from his brainwashing news. He told me that Tucker Carlson is a lying sack of shit, won't believe anything he says. I tried to tell him he interviewed a Colonel, but as soon as he heard me say Tucker, he went off on a tangent.
Lord please wake the still sleeping masses very soon, before more loved ones lose their lives.
Sorry for the rant but needed to vent a little after our call.
He will not believe anything I say on any of this, not without proof that he won't look up himself, and I know he won't take any sources I give him because he'll make up some crap not to believe the proof.
Though I'm thinking one thing he may have a hard time refuting is those videos with all the died suddenly people, because they show articles or social media proving these people took the vaxx and died suddenly, even showing some collapsing.
When I told him I will not wear a mask if they try to bring it back, of course he scoffed. He said what if someone wants to shoot you in the head (right between the eyes, yes he went there) for not wearing a mask? I said .. Oh so now you are ok with people shooting people if they don't wear a mask? He said no, but that's the kind of stuff happening, do you want that to happen to you? I told him I carry everywhere I go, so if someone pulls theirs, I will pull mine. I'm not wearing a mask for anyone, just to make them feel good about themselves. He said .. even if it's to keep others from getting sick? I said you know the masks don't work to keep you from getting a virus, right? Its right there on the mask box, it doesn't keep you from getting cvd. He got really quiet. I said masks don't stop virus particles, virus particles are so small they go through the masks and breathing in your own breath/oxygen isn't good for you. I still don't think it will change his mind on them, but maybe next time he will look at the box, lol.
I’m curious. What was the first thing that reached you and made you begin to question?
I hope so too. I'm glad you are here.
The only thing that worked somewhat for me with family was to simply say "I give up, I've provided the published medical studies, the statistics, the videos, but you've made up your mind. I still care, but I'm done". Two years later some of them have had a change of heart on the jabs, but they certainly don't want to talk about it. . PRIDE,
I wish I could hug you and sit and laugh at the beach with you as we breath a sigh of freedom ! I’m so sorry , the insanity is toxic , hence the besch and laughing ! If you ever get yo San Diego look me up ! We will continue to pray for your dad , my God that’s a heavy dose of brainwashing !
Ah, thank you! I'm so glad I found GAW, so many amazing folks here.
Yeah, he is in deep, but praying he can see through the lies eventually.
Gift them a print subscription to The Epoch Times. This newspaper puts out truth gently for normies and awakens them slowly. Seeing truth in print will make it more real to them than you telling them. I know, I hate that too but the important thing is that they awaken.
I'd like to think that at least some liberals are getting a little squirmy with all the in-your-face stuff that's happening, and to see someone strong like yourself do a 180 may just be the catalyst they need to find their own courage to stand up and reject some of the insane nonsense that's going on, whether that's covid-related or trans-related or whatever. You're the beacon of light in their darkness!
Thank you for your service to our country!
I’m so happy for you ,, the freedom you must feel! Thank you for sharing your redemption story and for serving this great country! Let your people abandon you , we must keep moving! Eventually they will know the truth and you will cover them in prayer until that day ! Thank God you are on this board !
Sure sounds like my brother and his wife
Yeah idk. I think a lot of tds has to do with daddy issues. The people i know afflicted with it had a very stern father and now just want to rebel against any actual rules. Nevermind that they're in their 30s, lol. They feel like all these "conspiracy theories" are things their father would have said and they'll side with anyone who gives them permission to tell him to fuck off
Well I didn't know my grandfather well enough to know his point of view on things, he passed when I was a little kid. Anyway, from what my father told me, his dad was very strict, his mother hated him and told his dad he was bad, and dad would hit him. That happened a lot apparently. I only remember seeing my grandmother once in passing. My father left for the army when he was 17, had to ask for their signatures to be able to join the army. He was a Drill Seargent, don't believe he ever saw combat. My parents split up when I was a toddler.
Well I think it's why they persistently won't "wake up" no matter what happens. Sort of like the Scott Adams angle on persuasion, that human beings usually employ logic to back up the emotional decision they already made. In this case it's not really about Trump and it's not really about "what he did wrong". Aside from general ridiculous statements ("that tweet was treason" type stuff) they cant even verbalize what they hate so much about him. "Mad at their dad" is my own armchair diagnosis
I'm not saying that the people who made the vax had the best of intentions in mind, but my 90 year old Grandpa took the vax and he's still kicking. The way some people here talk about it you'd think that it'd be an instakill for someone his age. I just can't see how if it didn't get him how it could be the explanation for these fitness people dropping dead.
Obvious. howbadismybatch tracks differences in kill and injury rates by batch, because they're different. If you've been around here honestly for any real time at all, you'd know this.
Obvious 2: graphene oxide is a molecular knife, most especially when the blood is acidic enough to hydrolyze it. How much lactic acid does a 90yo produce versus a top athlete?
You can also pray retroactively that whoever gave him the shots substituted saline out of mercy. I say this because God is not limited by time, and we can indeed pray for things in the past as much as we do for the future.
I live this as well.