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Tough Questions >> What if Trump is incarcerated and FJB wins 4 more years? What if the Military is the only way America descends into a hellhole? What if NCSWIC is actually horrible and apocalyptic? Would God have Won? 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
posted 2 years ago by Oh_Well_ian 2 years ago by Oh_Well_ian +22 / -0

We are being brought to a precipice to which we'll either retreat from, or cascade over....

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– Fikkan 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Whatever happens, whether we like it or not, understand it or not, God wins.

This is his creation.

And we can't even comprehend the cause and effect in play on the creation level.

So, we do what we can when we can. We hope we're correct and right in our assumptions and guesses as to God's plan. But, it'll be what it'll be and it's not up to us to say whether or not it's good.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I just described a situation where Satan wins and we were all deceived by Trump and Q.

Do I believe that is going to happen? I do not. But if it does, I will not rationalize that as a WIN.

sorry... can't keep moving the goal posts to support a belief system totally removed from the foundation of this subverse and the Q psyop, in general.

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– Fikkan 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

But if it does, I will not rationalize that as a WIN.

Of course not. And we've all had the rug dragged out from under us enough times to have at least a subconscious fear of exactly that happening.

But, I'm not here to take council of my fears. I'm here to stay in the fight and reload on ammo (information) with which to do battle.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

excellent comment

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– gg102 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If Trump was a black hat, he would have given in much earlier.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

There is another possibility you may not have considered:

Trump is a TARGET of the Q psyop.

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– gg102 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

While I'm not saying no, It seems to me that's a pretty far stretch to achieve that. Seems to me, there's too much evidence supporting that Trump is a WH and supports/ is supported by Q et. al. The military can't seem to bow enough to him.

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– RatRaceReferee 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It seems to me that's a pretty far stretch to achieve that.

Similar things have happened before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Is it a stretch?

When you consider nearly every person in this movie is a villain, it is certainly possible. Although I agree with you on the mood of the Military, all Generals excluded.

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– gg102 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Well, I'll say this: IF Trump is NOT on the side of the patriots, we're fully and completely screwed.

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– uk-thinker 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I've toyed with the thought is Trump a black hat several times, but I have always come back to a house devided against itself will fail. Matthew 12.

If Trump is a white hat, which I believe he is based on the fruit of his actions then it means the return of Christ is further away than many believe.

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– gg102 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I agree. I also think Christ's return is further out than we might think/desire. For me, not enough things line up for Christ's return yet.

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– uk-thinker 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Exactly too much prophesy to fit into the time frame we currently have ie Trump return and World Deep State/NWO etc being dealt with. I do believe God is exposing the evil and we might hope that would lead to Christian revival - but I don't know of a prophesy to support that. Much of Christianity has swallowed the current worldview narrative.

Jesus told us to watch - so I do.

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– TinkAnon 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

If Trump loses the 2024 election, then it will be time for YOU to stand up, rally the troops and take the lead in the Continental militia initiating the 2.0 Revolution! Yeehaw! So if you don’t wanna do that, keep up your prayers, keep positive thoughts, words & deeds. What we think, what we say & what we do creates karma. Most people say karma is a beotch. But we can create very positive karma too. That is the three ways to create both bad & good karma. What you sow so shall you reap. What goes around comes around. Keep your thoughts, words & deeds in check!

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– Munchaussen 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Then you presented fiction. God won already.

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– ULTRATRUMPER 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

JUST BUY EXTRA GUNS AND AMMO JUST IN CASE

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– keeptherepublic1776 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yep This and if it goes good you have more guns and ammo 😎

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– SecretAsianMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Im oiling my gun right now 😏

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– truthyDOTchurch 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Although God wins, the world does get destroyed in the end..

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– The3rdKey 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

God always wins.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

What an ugly post. Of course God wins! I may be persecuted to the point of being beheaded in the process, but my reward is in heaven. This may not be resolved for another thousand years, but God still wins! His plan is more magnificent than anything you or I could ever imagine, so get right with God, put on the full armor and STAND. We are called to occupy until His return. period.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

period, eh?

sorry if I upset your safe space.

calling the post 'ugly' is ridiculous

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Are you a believer? We’re gonna have to get STRONG in the Lord, because I don’t think we’re even close to the precipice, but I hope I’m wrong.

This is the strong speech I give myself when I’m feeling weak.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

One of my greatest gifts from God was a skepticism about everything, but God.

I've never been deluded about the motives and nefariousness of Government.

Belief in God is not the same as the belief in Q and that is frequently conflated.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I’m not convinced that the plan and God’s plan are different yet, so there’s that.

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– uk-thinker 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

My opinion, the Q/Trump plan is a part or subset of God's plan, which has been running since before the creation of heaven and earth. The real plan is to bring mankind to understand that we need God more than we think we do, that He is the only way and all our thoughts are futile, but each one has to come to that conviction for themselves. The wonderful thing is that God not needing us, never the less graciously allows us to participate in the working out of His plan.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hmmm. interesting...

the Q/Trump plan is a part or subset of God's plan

I agree.

The real plan is to bring mankind to understand that we need God more than we think we do

That's a big part of it. In my view, the plan is to restore the separation from God that occurred due to the faithlessness of Adam and Eve in the Garden. (Instead of believing in God's commandment, they believed in the devil's word, and united with it, causing separation from God.)

I don't agree that "our thoughts are futile". That would only be the case if we are NOT our father's children. God being the only way is because human beings are not designed or created to exist apart from God, but rather, to live, breath and function in total unity with God.

We can only get to the unity by recognizing that God is the center, the subject OUR true center.

Does God need us? Most certainly. Why? Because love is the one thing that cannot be experienced purely alone. There must be an object of love, that (person, being, thing, creature) which you love.

God created us to be his objects of love, so that he could fully and completely experience his own perfect love, but through his children. For this to happen, we have to resonate with God 100% and be united with him.

Can you imagine a marriage where the spouse doesn't actually need you, but only lets you hang around to let you feel 'needed'? Or who doesn't actually love you, but let's you stay there so that you feel 'loved'?

The grace of God is that even though we became refuse, human garbage, worse than useless, he is determined to restore us to our original position and status as useful, as pure, as his original children.

Because we voluntarily separated (in/via Adam and Eve) from God through believing in a lie instead of his truth, we lost our original value. But God is determined to restore us to that original value, and he sacrifices, serves and loves us in order to do it.

each one has to come to that conviction for themselves

Fully agree. This is key. Because just as Adam and Eve left God by choosing to believe in the lie, to reverse that, each of us, individually, must also choose to do the opposite: to believe in the Truth (God's truth) and reject the lie.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Agreed. Hallelujah!!

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– keeptherepublic1776 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Great Post. Gives everyone something to think about. We are here because we believe something is happening. If I didn't believe that I may be fighting already

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– gg102 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

IMHO, the military is plan-B. They don't want to do a military coup unless absolutely necessary.

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– Fikkan 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

"it has to be this way".

I suspect the part of the plan we're in now is forcing everyone to recognize that the courts are corrupt beyond salvage and the law is a farce.

Tribunals are the only way to justice, and it done in line with The Constitution and existing legal structure, both letter and spirit.

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– gg102 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Tribunals aren't the same as the military taking over.

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– Fikkan 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I know that. You know that.

But, to those who get their news and views from the msm or the water cooler at work? They'll believe what they're told and they'd be told it was a coup.

That's why the GAW and other such efforts are important. Neutralize that play before the msm and talking heads can pull it.

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– gg102 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's very true. I suppose that' why it's the "Great Awakening" Sheep no more.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They tried plan A quite a while ago and it was clear that plan B was a better one to follow so they recalibrated.

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– gg102 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I don't completely agree. I think we're still in Plan-A. It's slower than expected and has more twists than expected, but I think we/Trump are still fighting in the courts and congress. The courts have been relatively on our side, congress not so much.

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– FondueFerret 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

God always "wins". We get exactly what we deserve.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Was that you I saw in my nightmare about this last night?

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– Fikkan 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

More thoughts but a separate comment. Don't want to spam it onto my first comment.

It bothers me that so many call what we want to happen as "God's Plan". Honestly, we don't know that. We can't know that. It's a form of "lord's name in vain" imo. We can hope that what we want to happen is in line with God's Plan. But that's the best we can do.

And remember, rain falls on the just and unjust alike. That's how the fields get watered. Meaning, something we don't want to happen might have to happen because that's how the rest of the plan plays out. We get rained on and made miserable. Fields get watered and we don't starve to death later.

So, I hope what we call The Plan is the same as God's Plan.

And...

Deep question, kinda like If yellow was blue, what color with brown be?

Or...

How do I do a doomer post without sounding doomer?

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– keeptherepublic1776 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Maybe when it's said that God wins we end up in the afterlife as this world is destroyed

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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