The Catholic church is the "deep church". Vigano needs to wake up and leave it. Just be a Christian, nothing more is needed.
edit- 10 dissentions and zero refutals! Must be some of that Catholic logic! Kiss the ring and bow to a man who you call father (Matthew 23:9) now, go on!
Disagree on this one. Not that nothing more is needed, but rather, that the Catholic church is only bad.
In many cases, when protestants and Christians of other more recent denominations were happy just focusing on their own salvation, it was the Catholics who stood on the front line in the cultural wall, against Communism, against abortion, and against so much of the DS agenda.
The spirit runs deep in all branches of the Christian walk. But likewise, so does evil. There are many Catholics who are devoted, love Jesus and have a big heart for God. In my opinion, these are more important to God than doctrinal affirmations.
Yes, the Catholic Church was infiltrated way back, but it was STILL founded by Jesus through his disciples. That cannot be simply erased.
If you are an American, would you give up your passport and citizenship, because of what "America" has been and done over the past [x] decades/centuries?
God is the God of restoration. His purpose is to restore all things. There will be a point where the Catholic church and it's adherents will naturally move on, but the truth is, there is still a war in the Catholic church, and like everywhere, it's DS vs the Sincere and devoted (or patriotic).
I'm of the opinion that it was evil from inception and, despite that, there have no doubt been countless members of it with pure hearts toward God, so I'm not taking anything away from that. But the entire concept of a pope is blasphemous--Jesus is the mediator between God and man, not some man who lets people call him father and kiss his ring. The papacy = the antichrist, every single one. The office of papacy is antichrist. God has used the Catholic church for good throughout the ages, yes, but need I bring up the atrocities? A literal 1,000 years of darkness. The founding fathers of America knew this too, and Catholics used to be barred from holding public office I believe... not to mention the very reason America was formed, to get away from the whore of Babylon!
edit- and I wish the Catholics(?) downvoting my anti-Catholic comments would step out and counter something! Maybe I'll re-think some of my positions?
The classic reductionist fallacy is not a valid argument. Catholicism is obviously not about kissing a ring and you're knowingly lying by pushing this. Ignoring history isn't a valid basis for argument, here's the first rebuttal- get your facts straight. Start with Maryland the Catholic colony, the only one that ACTUALLY allowed freedom of religion, while the pilgrims and puritans were torturing, maiming and horribly executing members of other religions. Blaming the Catholic Church for politics, the old 1000 years of darkness trope, is a stretch worthy of 'the parties switched.' Like blaming the libraries that were burned for the loss of knowledge.
Let's start another path- why have the forces of darkness continued to violently attack the Catholic Church, above all others, even though it had clearly been infiltrated all the way up? Why are protestant churches not burned down, preachers stabbed in the streets, why is the Host of Catholics still sought after by evil for their black masses? Why do they rail so hard and lie so much about the Mother of Christ instead of respecting her? The real corruption wasn't enough, they have to continue to invent false accusations like genocide of indigent children, to cover the current human trafficking, sex abuse in schools and temples etc.
Freedom of Religion has been taken to an absurd extreme (think baphomet statues in gov't areas, open Muslims in govt etc) and from what I've heard, every amendment to the Constitution is invalid, and they were added via Jesuit subversion in order to shield the incoming Catholic infiltration into America (from it's conception)
How can you separate the ring kissing? How can you separate the bowing to other men? The calling other men Holy Father? The "infallability"? It's hardwired, so I'll use it to attack the whole beast.
The first protestants all knew who the antichrist, whore of Babylon, and beast were. Protestant churches today have all slowly been subverted by the Vatican (think ecumenical movement, World Council of Churches)
The pilgrams doing what the Catholics did for 1,000 years? How long did they do it? Idk. Not excusing that behavior no matter who did it, but let's be real. Nobody in history has a bloodier stained robe than the Vatican. Not to mention all the other scandal and abominations coming out of there. Why? How could Christ's bride still be so wicked even after He rose from the dead and we now have access to His spirit?
Mary was a faithful follower of God, but that's where I draw the line as to MY reverence for her. What Christ decides to do in relation to her position in Heaven is none of my business and makes no difference to my own walk with Him, and I sure ain't praying to her so she can ask Jesus for me. Where does it say to do that?
All those strawmen at the end can stand there, I'm not even gonna try
Christ Himself stated: "Come out of her, so he may not partake of her plagues!" And it is further reinforced with the testimonies of ex-Jesuit priests such as Alberto Rivera.
Even the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's assassination were setup by Catholic provacateurs (i.e. The assassin who killed Lincoln was found yelling out a Jesuit code to let them other members know that the deed was done and it was for the Church).
The Catholic church is not the deep church, it is the church started by Jesus. Protestantism is the deep church. You believe Freemason/Jewish lies about Catholicism. Your ancestors were Catholic, son.
The churchs only play left is to pretend that they were infilitrated by 'evil freemasons using satanic geometry to cast spells and trick them into comitting crimes' and that they need a return to "traditional catholicism".
Pretty funny that it has come down to this for Rome. Sucks to be backed into a corner.
PRETEND they were infiltrated? Read the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita and Bella Dodd's work on Catholic infiltration. The FBI isn't coming against your church, they're railing against traditional Catholicism. Satanic groups don't steal your church bread, they steal Catholic EUCHARIST for BLACK MASSES, a mockery of CATHOLIC MASS.
Satan knows where the real power is. You missed the memo it seems. Protestantism is Freemasonry lite.
That's a sorry turd to throw. They're deep state same as the royals, bankers, Hollywood, Washington DC, etc. What is "the play" for the other governments? Your rant says more about you than the Catholic Church, and it's not about truth.
Praying for you, it's gonna be a tough awakening. If you ask anyone to help you, you're praying to them, and gosh I hope there aren't any photos up in your house, idolator. And super cute to think that no tiebreaker, penance, reconciliation would be necessary to step into heaven before Our Savior. You actually believe all your robes are the whitest of white right now, no cleansing needed? And that no one has seen purgatory or hell? You think there have been no saints, visionaries, messages from God or Jesus or the Paraclete for a couple of thousand years, they're all witches or something, everything supernatural is demonic?
Pray to dead people? No, praying to SAINTS who are ALIVE in heaven like Jesus is. You don't ever ask people to pray for you? You don't ask your mom and dad to pray for you? Give me a break. You either believe in life after death or you don't. You either believe in intercessory prayer or you don't. Catch up.
Spanish inquisition was done to deal with those who say they are Catholic but were infiltrators and subversive, you know, like what you have going on in your government currently?
Cardinal Newman famously said, “To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant.” He believed that if one compared the teaching and practice of both Protestantism and Rome to the teaching and practice of the early church, one would be forced to conclude that Rome was the true heir of the early church.
Spanish inquisition was done to deal with those who say they are Catholic but were infiltrators and subversive, you know, like what you have going on in your government currently?
Just to be clear.
You're condoning ~300k people being killed because they "infiltrated the Church"?
Actually, why would I ask that. Of course you do, the pope ordered it and you consider popes infallible. Probably every Catholic who are pressed on the question condone the Spanish inquisition.
The Catholic church is the "deep church". Vigano needs to wake up and leave it. Just be a Christian, nothing more is needed.
edit- 10 dissentions and zero refutals! Must be some of that Catholic logic! Kiss the ring and bow to a man who you call father (Matthew 23:9) now, go on!
Disagree on this one. Not that nothing more is needed, but rather, that the Catholic church is only bad.
In many cases, when protestants and Christians of other more recent denominations were happy just focusing on their own salvation, it was the Catholics who stood on the front line in the cultural wall, against Communism, against abortion, and against so much of the DS agenda.
The spirit runs deep in all branches of the Christian walk. But likewise, so does evil. There are many Catholics who are devoted, love Jesus and have a big heart for God. In my opinion, these are more important to God than doctrinal affirmations.
Yes, the Catholic Church was infiltrated way back, but it was STILL founded by Jesus through his disciples. That cannot be simply erased.
If you are an American, would you give up your passport and citizenship, because of what "America" has been and done over the past [x] decades/centuries?
God is the God of restoration. His purpose is to restore all things. There will be a point where the Catholic church and it's adherents will naturally move on, but the truth is, there is still a war in the Catholic church, and like everywhere, it's DS vs the Sincere and devoted (or patriotic).
I'm of the opinion that it was evil from inception and, despite that, there have no doubt been countless members of it with pure hearts toward God, so I'm not taking anything away from that. But the entire concept of a pope is blasphemous--Jesus is the mediator between God and man, not some man who lets people call him father and kiss his ring. The papacy = the antichrist, every single one. The office of papacy is antichrist. God has used the Catholic church for good throughout the ages, yes, but need I bring up the atrocities? A literal 1,000 years of darkness. The founding fathers of America knew this too, and Catholics used to be barred from holding public office I believe... not to mention the very reason America was formed, to get away from the whore of Babylon!
edit- and I wish the Catholics(?) downvoting my anti-Catholic comments would step out and counter something! Maybe I'll re-think some of my positions?
The classic reductionist fallacy is not a valid argument. Catholicism is obviously not about kissing a ring and you're knowingly lying by pushing this. Ignoring history isn't a valid basis for argument, here's the first rebuttal- get your facts straight. Start with Maryland the Catholic colony, the only one that ACTUALLY allowed freedom of religion, while the pilgrims and puritans were torturing, maiming and horribly executing members of other religions. Blaming the Catholic Church for politics, the old 1000 years of darkness trope, is a stretch worthy of 'the parties switched.' Like blaming the libraries that were burned for the loss of knowledge.
Let's start another path- why have the forces of darkness continued to violently attack the Catholic Church, above all others, even though it had clearly been infiltrated all the way up? Why are protestant churches not burned down, preachers stabbed in the streets, why is the Host of Catholics still sought after by evil for their black masses? Why do they rail so hard and lie so much about the Mother of Christ instead of respecting her? The real corruption wasn't enough, they have to continue to invent false accusations like genocide of indigent children, to cover the current human trafficking, sex abuse in schools and temples etc.
Freedom of Religion has been taken to an absurd extreme (think baphomet statues in gov't areas, open Muslims in govt etc) and from what I've heard, every amendment to the Constitution is invalid, and they were added via Jesuit subversion in order to shield the incoming Catholic infiltration into America (from it's conception)
How can you separate the ring kissing? How can you separate the bowing to other men? The calling other men Holy Father? The "infallability"? It's hardwired, so I'll use it to attack the whole beast.
The first protestants all knew who the antichrist, whore of Babylon, and beast were. Protestant churches today have all slowly been subverted by the Vatican (think ecumenical movement, World Council of Churches)
The pilgrams doing what the Catholics did for 1,000 years? How long did they do it? Idk. Not excusing that behavior no matter who did it, but let's be real. Nobody in history has a bloodier stained robe than the Vatican. Not to mention all the other scandal and abominations coming out of there. Why? How could Christ's bride still be so wicked even after He rose from the dead and we now have access to His spirit?
Mary was a faithful follower of God, but that's where I draw the line as to MY reverence for her. What Christ decides to do in relation to her position in Heaven is none of my business and makes no difference to my own walk with Him, and I sure ain't praying to her so she can ask Jesus for me. Where does it say to do that?
All those strawmen at the end can stand there, I'm not even gonna try
Bingo.
Christ Himself stated: "Come out of her, so he may not partake of her plagues!" And it is further reinforced with the testimonies of ex-Jesuit priests such as Alberto Rivera.
The Inquisition says otherwise....
Even the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's assassination were setup by Catholic provacateurs (i.e. The assassin who killed Lincoln was found yelling out a Jesuit code to let them other members know that the deed was done and it was for the Church).
1,000 years of hunting down, torturing and executing "non-believers" begs to differ. Christ never told us to do that.
I would add that JPII was breaking away because his Marian roots moved him to releasing the Fatima information, so I believe they tried to kill him.
The Catholic church is not the deep church, it is the church started by Jesus. Protestantism is the deep church. You believe Freemason/Jewish lies about Catholicism. Your ancestors were Catholic, son.
The history of the Catholic church, combined with the ritual and pomp, and finally the unbiblical beliefs, tell me otherwise.
You believe Freemason lies about the one true faith.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/alG12AQbQVLO/
"The history" as told by who? Enemies of the Church? Think about it, son.
The churchs only play left is to pretend that they were infilitrated by 'evil freemasons using satanic geometry to cast spells and trick them into comitting crimes' and that they need a return to "traditional catholicism".
Pretty funny that it has come down to this for Rome. Sucks to be backed into a corner.
PRETEND they were infiltrated? Read the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita and Bella Dodd's work on Catholic infiltration. The FBI isn't coming against your church, they're railing against traditional Catholicism. Satanic groups don't steal your church bread, they steal Catholic EUCHARIST for BLACK MASSES, a mockery of CATHOLIC MASS.
Satan knows where the real power is. You missed the memo it seems. Protestantism is Freemasonry lite.
That's a sorry turd to throw. They're deep state same as the royals, bankers, Hollywood, Washington DC, etc. What is "the play" for the other governments? Your rant says more about you than the Catholic Church, and it's not about truth.
How traditional?
Indulgences and Spanish Inquisition traditional or pray to dead people instead of God to earn your way out of purgatory traditional?
Praying for you, it's gonna be a tough awakening. If you ask anyone to help you, you're praying to them, and gosh I hope there aren't any photos up in your house, idolator. And super cute to think that no tiebreaker, penance, reconciliation would be necessary to step into heaven before Our Savior. You actually believe all your robes are the whitest of white right now, no cleansing needed? And that no one has seen purgatory or hell? You think there have been no saints, visionaries, messages from God or Jesus or the Paraclete for a couple of thousand years, they're all witches or something, everything supernatural is demonic?
Pray to dead people? No, praying to SAINTS who are ALIVE in heaven like Jesus is. You don't ever ask people to pray for you? You don't ask your mom and dad to pray for you? Give me a break. You either believe in life after death or you don't. You either believe in intercessory prayer or you don't. Catch up.
Spanish inquisition was done to deal with those who say they are Catholic but were infiltrators and subversive, you know, like what you have going on in your government currently?
Just to be clear.
You're condoning ~300k people being killed because they "infiltrated the Church"?
Actually, why would I ask that. Of course you do, the pope ordered it and you consider popes infallible. Probably every Catholic who are pressed on the question condone the Spanish inquisition.
Cult.