The person writing that article seems to think that Trump and a few Republicans go into a meeting room, they just offer the position to him, he says yes, and that's it.
Every article like this I see conveniently skips over the part where there's a vote in the House of Representatives, and he has to get the majority of the votes.
Just counting up the Democrats, Independents, and RINOs in the House, he doesn't have the votes.
The left thinks he’s a Bafoon who just happened to become president 😂. They underestimate him at every turn. “He’s just doing this to stay out of jail” “I can’t stand that guy” “he has no idea what he’s doing” “he’s only in this for himself” “he’s just trying to build his brand”. I talk to people who actually believe this nonsense. U know what? Yes! He is a narcissist and in this for himself. TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER AND THE MAN WHO SAVED AMERICA AND MAYBE THE WORLD…and I’m fine with that🤷🏼♂️
PS The men that don’t like Trump are the betas who couldn’t sit across from him, look him in the eye, and have a conversation.
The Senate convicts and removes during impeachment proceedings, which would be needed to elevate the Speaker to POTUS.
Trump doesn’t have to be Speaker today. The POTUS appoints the VP when there’s an absence. So, if POTUS and VP are removed, the Republican Speaker becomes POTUS and can appoint Trump as VP then resign, moving Trump to POTUS.
The Senate is not as divided as the numbers suggest. Four years ago the Democrats never would have voted with a small band of “radical” Republicans to oust a Republican speaker. I guess that when “the storm is upon us” the senate will come through.
Also, the GOP would have to change their rule about being under indictment. I think rule 26 applies here: Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted
If Trump has it all, he has the goods on all the RINOs.
He doesn't need a single Democrat vote if they flip.
On the final vote, all six holdouts voted “present,” lowering the total number of votes cast to 428 and the majority required to win the gavel to 215. Those six “present” votes ensured that by holding on to the same 216 votes he received on the 14th ballot, McCarthy could secure the speakership.
Not sure How you can be so confident unless you are privy to the daily minutiae of all of congress's day.
With everything that has happened, I don't think it unreasonable to estimate the possibility of it happening.
If, as most everyone on this board believes, the WH are in control, it would not be a leap to conclude that levers of control on the RINOs couldn't be moved.
Likewise, those who are blackmailed vs. Those who are voluntarily part of team evil quite conceivably could have different motivations which could be ... addressed
I just see all the obstacles against it, along with the meager benefits it would reward.
Just because the WHs are in control doesn't mean that it's the WHs plan to put Trump in as SOH.
It just makes zero sense to do this. The only reason why it's even being mentioned is because of the segment of the population here that likes to verbally fantasize about using this way to become President again.
They think that this will fulfill his "back in 5 months" (paraphrasing here) statement.
But getting himself voted in as SOH, getting Biden AND Harris removed somehow (seeing as how the Senate would be the ones to vote to remove them via impeachment and the Senate is controlled by the Democrats, so not likely that will happen) and then getting himself placed as President would take MUCH longer than 5 months. Remember how long it Trump's impeachment trial took? Much longer than 5 months.
And if that all miraculously (because it would take several miracles) happens before the 2024 election, what happens? He only has a few months as President before the new President is elected. So he just traded a few months as President vs the 4 years he would have gotten when elected.
And if he doesn't take over as President and stays SOH, I don't even know if the SOH can campaign for President while being Speaker, constitutionally speaking. But even if they can, Trump is going to get blamed for all the fuck ups the House does while he's Speaker that it can't help but hurt his campaign. And that jeopardizes him winning 2024.
And if Biden and Harris are going to be removed as president and VP some other way, that will take just as long if not longer than impeachments. Haven't you ever paid attention to Congressional dealings before? They take forever to do nothing.
It's much simpler, and much faster, and much likelier that he will become President by winning the 2024 election. He can't campaign effectively while doing piddly-ass SOH stuff.
And what happens if he becomes SOH and the House continues with their habit of doing jack shit? Who gets the blame when the House fucks up? The SOH. Why bother with that nonsense?
The ONLY reason I see people going all-in on the SOH scenario is because they secretly believe Trump won't win 2024. That's it.
The person writing that article seems to think that Trump and a few Republicans go into a meeting room, they just offer the position to him, he says yes, and that's it.
Every article like this I see conveniently skips over the part where there's a vote in the House of Representatives, and he has to get the majority of the votes.
Just counting up the Democrats, Independents, and RINOs in the House, he doesn't have the votes.
The left thinks he’s a Bafoon who just happened to become president 😂. They underestimate him at every turn. “He’s just doing this to stay out of jail” “I can’t stand that guy” “he has no idea what he’s doing” “he’s only in this for himself” “he’s just trying to build his brand”. I talk to people who actually believe this nonsense. U know what? Yes! He is a narcissist and in this for himself. TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER AND THE MAN WHO SAVED AMERICA AND MAYBE THE WORLD…and I’m fine with that🤷🏼♂️ PS The men that don’t like Trump are the betas who couldn’t sit across from him, look him in the eye, and have a conversation.
Not sure what any of that has to do with what I posted, but....ok. I guess.
True
Would this vote have anything to do with Senate as there are a number of posts relating to "senate was the key" or "senate was the target"
https://qalerts.app/?q=senate+was
No, the Senate doesn't have anything to do with the SOH votes.
The House of Representatives votes for their own Speaker, you see.
The Senate convicts and removes during impeachment proceedings, which would be needed to elevate the Speaker to POTUS.
Trump doesn’t have to be Speaker today. The POTUS appoints the VP when there’s an absence. So, if POTUS and VP are removed, the Republican Speaker becomes POTUS and can appoint Trump as VP then resign, moving Trump to POTUS.
The Senate is not as divided as the numbers suggest. Four years ago the Democrats never would have voted with a small band of “radical” Republicans to oust a Republican speaker. I guess that when “the storm is upon us” the senate will come through.
This is basically correct.
Also, the GOP would have to change their rule about being under indictment. I think rule 26 applies here: Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted
https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/
If Trump has it all, he has the goods on all the RINOs.
He doesn't need a single Democrat vote if they flip.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-01-06/mccarthy-speaker-jan-6-anniversary
There's only 212 Democrats. The Republicans are in control of whomever becomes Speaker.
That's if the Republicans vote all the same. They didn't all vote to get rid of McCarthy.
It's simply not going to happen, no matter how much people fantasize about it.
Not sure How you can be so confident unless you are privy to the daily minutiae of all of congress's day.
With everything that has happened, I don't think it unreasonable to estimate the possibility of it happening.
If, as most everyone on this board believes, the WH are in control, it would not be a leap to conclude that levers of control on the RINOs couldn't be moved.
Likewise, those who are blackmailed vs. Those who are voluntarily part of team evil quite conceivably could have different motivations which could be ... addressed
I just see all the obstacles against it, along with the meager benefits it would reward.
Just because the WHs are in control doesn't mean that it's the WHs plan to put Trump in as SOH.
It just makes zero sense to do this. The only reason why it's even being mentioned is because of the segment of the population here that likes to verbally fantasize about using this way to become President again.
They think that this will fulfill his "back in 5 months" (paraphrasing here) statement.
But getting himself voted in as SOH, getting Biden AND Harris removed somehow (seeing as how the Senate would be the ones to vote to remove them via impeachment and the Senate is controlled by the Democrats, so not likely that will happen) and then getting himself placed as President would take MUCH longer than 5 months. Remember how long it Trump's impeachment trial took? Much longer than 5 months.
And if that all miraculously (because it would take several miracles) happens before the 2024 election, what happens? He only has a few months as President before the new President is elected. So he just traded a few months as President vs the 4 years he would have gotten when elected.
And if he doesn't take over as President and stays SOH, I don't even know if the SOH can campaign for President while being Speaker, constitutionally speaking. But even if they can, Trump is going to get blamed for all the fuck ups the House does while he's Speaker that it can't help but hurt his campaign. And that jeopardizes him winning 2024.
And if Biden and Harris are going to be removed as president and VP some other way, that will take just as long if not longer than impeachments. Haven't you ever paid attention to Congressional dealings before? They take forever to do nothing.
It's much simpler, and much faster, and much likelier that he will become President by winning the 2024 election. He can't campaign effectively while doing piddly-ass SOH stuff.
And what happens if he becomes SOH and the House continues with their habit of doing jack shit? Who gets the blame when the House fucks up? The SOH. Why bother with that nonsense?
The ONLY reason I see people going all-in on the SOH scenario is because they secretly believe Trump won't win 2024. That's it.