Check to see if the Ruger Mini 14 is on the list. Comes with 5 round mags and always gets left off the ban lists. It accepts10, 20 and 30 round magazines when the courts overturn all the bans.
I mean, I'm not gonna tell you to comply with blatantly unconstitutional crap, but if all they did was ban guns with more than 15 round mags, get a glock 19, a smith and wesson M&P compact, etc. etc.
The Glock 19 (and it's derivatives) is literally the most popular self defense firearm on the planet, with the aforementioned Smith and Wesson M&P compact being a close second. Both have standard 15 round mags with really large aftermarkets, both are 9mm (the literal most common round in North America besides maybe 30-30) and both fall in that "concealable, but not too small" category that everyone seems to love.
If you're bound and determined to not get in trouble legally with these new unconstitutional non-laws, then just go for one of them. Or one of the near infinite third party (usually of higher quality) variants of the Glock 19 that are made by American companies.
If you're more old school, go for a 1911 or a browning hi-power (1911 in 9mm has a max ammo capacity of 10 rounds, and a hi-power has a max of 15 but standard capacity of 13). If nothing else, just buy a 357 Magnum revolver. They're a bit more expensive (especially if you get a REALLY good defense revolver with 8 rounds instead of 6), but there's very little the walks this earth that 8 rounds of 357 won't kill (assuming you use the right ammo).
Just because they've banned most of the more popular "modern" guns in IL now, doesn't mean you have nothing. You just have to go with options that are a little older. But older doesn't mean unreliable. Not to sound like a boomer, but I mean the 1911, Hi-Power, and revolvers in general have more than a hundred years of history of being reliable in not just self defense situations, but in actual war scenarios.
Glocks and M&Ps, don't quite have that level of history, but they're still absurdly reliable. M&Ps in particular are the only pistol that consistently pass all those ludicrous internet "torture tests". Heck, I just watched a video the other day of someone freezing every popular self defense pistol solid and trying to fire them. The only one that actually shot, was the M&P.
So yeah, you still have options, just walk into a gun store and ask for some recommendations (though I will say, refuse any kind of taurus revolver, they're notoriously bad).
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. It's time to ditch "the law" and what is legal, those are the laws of tyranny. If I lived in IL, I would go out of state to various gun shows, shop around, take a lot of cash, and buy what I need in "private sales" and take them home and HIDE THEM. Don't talk about them, don't show them to people, just hide them and wait for the total collapse of law and order, THEN use them to protect yourself from the roving gangs that are bound to appear.
I agree with that too. When the Governor ignores the Constitution, we ignore the Governor. If ever there was a need for keeping and bearing arms to protect a free state, this is it.
I have to keep the posts to Q related, but isn't fun removing frens' posts, especially frens looking for important advice. I hope you found what you are looking for.
Do you have any experience with firearms? If not I would look into a local training site/range and recommend starting with a 9mm pistol. Also it looks like you need to apply for a FOID.
Illinois law requires residents to have a Firearm Owners Identification Card (FOID) to possess a firearm or ammunition. FOID card holders (without a CCL) can legally carry unloaded firearms that are enclosed in a case. You must be 21 years old to apply and have a FOID card.
Yeah a license to buy ammo? Didn't realize they had locked down hard in IL like that. I've only lived in freedom states and raised an eyebrow when I read that.
Imagine growing up here and how surreal it is when you go on a road trip and discover elsewhere you can buy ammo at the gas station counter without even getting asked for ID.
If I lived in Illinois, I'd move to Missouri. Just me.
I’m divorced and can’t move because of my kids. I’d love to get the hell out of here otherwise
Check to see if the Ruger Mini 14 is on the list. Comes with 5 round mags and always gets left off the ban lists. It accepts10, 20 and 30 round magazines when the courts overturn all the bans.
"If you can" that's why some of us are still here it's not trivial for everyone to pick up and leave their state.
I’m from Missouri on this comment. kek kek kek kek
I mean, I'm not gonna tell you to comply with blatantly unconstitutional crap, but if all they did was ban guns with more than 15 round mags, get a glock 19, a smith and wesson M&P compact, etc. etc.
The Glock 19 (and it's derivatives) is literally the most popular self defense firearm on the planet, with the aforementioned Smith and Wesson M&P compact being a close second. Both have standard 15 round mags with really large aftermarkets, both are 9mm (the literal most common round in North America besides maybe 30-30) and both fall in that "concealable, but not too small" category that everyone seems to love.
If you're bound and determined to not get in trouble legally with these new unconstitutional non-laws, then just go for one of them. Or one of the near infinite third party (usually of higher quality) variants of the Glock 19 that are made by American companies.
If you're more old school, go for a 1911 or a browning hi-power (1911 in 9mm has a max ammo capacity of 10 rounds, and a hi-power has a max of 15 but standard capacity of 13). If nothing else, just buy a 357 Magnum revolver. They're a bit more expensive (especially if you get a REALLY good defense revolver with 8 rounds instead of 6), but there's very little the walks this earth that 8 rounds of 357 won't kill (assuming you use the right ammo).
Just because they've banned most of the more popular "modern" guns in IL now, doesn't mean you have nothing. You just have to go with options that are a little older. But older doesn't mean unreliable. Not to sound like a boomer, but I mean the 1911, Hi-Power, and revolvers in general have more than a hundred years of history of being reliable in not just self defense situations, but in actual war scenarios.
Glocks and M&Ps, don't quite have that level of history, but they're still absurdly reliable. M&Ps in particular are the only pistol that consistently pass all those ludicrous internet "torture tests". Heck, I just watched a video the other day of someone freezing every popular self defense pistol solid and trying to fire them. The only one that actually shot, was the M&P.
So yeah, you still have options, just walk into a gun store and ask for some recommendations (though I will say, refuse any kind of taurus revolver, they're notoriously bad).
A tank of gas out of that hell hole of a state.
...crossbow
Condoms...
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. It's time to ditch "the law" and what is legal, those are the laws of tyranny. If I lived in IL, I would go out of state to various gun shows, shop around, take a lot of cash, and buy what I need in "private sales" and take them home and HIDE THEM. Don't talk about them, don't show them to people, just hide them and wait for the total collapse of law and order, THEN use them to protect yourself from the roving gangs that are bound to appear.
I agree with that too. When the Governor ignores the Constitution, we ignore the Governor. If ever there was a need for keeping and bearing arms to protect a free state, this is it.
Become ungovernable.
German Shepherd, or any large dog.
Depends on which county your in. Many sheriff's have stated they will not enforce the totalitarian law.
Otherwise, plenty of conceal carry handguns have under ten rounds
Last I checked only three sheriff's are backing it. Also so far the compliance with registration is about 0.0004%. https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_73841bf6-6794-11ee-9c1f-8bd1886b2cf8.html
IDF 50 Cal Desert Eagle. It’s really good at blowing an enemy’s head off.
Buy a car and get out!
Hi fren.
Can you ask general questions in the daily post please:
https://greatawakening.win/p/17rSeZVUrl/general-chat-for-thu-oct-12/
Maybe you have enough answers already.
Oh yes, sorry about that!
No worries.
I have to keep the posts to Q related, but isn't fun removing frens' posts, especially frens looking for important advice. I hope you found what you are looking for.
Do you have any experience with firearms? If not I would look into a local training site/range and recommend starting with a 9mm pistol. Also it looks like you need to apply for a FOID.
Illinois law requires residents to have a Firearm Owners Identification Card (FOID) to possess a firearm or ammunition. FOID card holders (without a CCL) can legally carry unloaded firearms that are enclosed in a case. You must be 21 years old to apply and have a FOID card.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/il-gun-laws/
That's a shit ton of infringement right there.
Yeah a license to buy ammo? Didn't realize they had locked down hard in IL like that. I've only lived in freedom states and raised an eyebrow when I read that.
Imagine growing up here and how surreal it is when you go on a road trip and discover elsewhere you can buy ammo at the gas station counter without even getting asked for ID.
You can get a FOID if under 21 with parental approval documentation
Bear spray.