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Trust Grassley? Two takes during “movie”? Why Is Grassley included in second take? (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by horseyPatriot 2 years ago by horseyPatriot +101 / -0
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– leadvillejim 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

For consideration-

There could be a rational explanation. Often messages need to be repeated with different people, especially during emergencies. Schumer is a Dem senator. Pelosi gets on the phone with Pence and he shares the info with the two.

Let's say Grassley, a Republican senator, shows up in the room. "What was that?" The message gets repeated.

This is a reasonable counter-explanation to the post.

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– merf 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

It's a reasonable explanation because that's exactly what happened when you bother to find and watch the primary source.

https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39

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– BasedWatcherWatching 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Thank you. Frens that do actual leg work are at the top of my totem pole.

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– merf 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

It's been interesting to experience putting out a disinformation brushfire. It really isn't that hard when the facts are on your side.

I monitor for frens that have misinterpreted the info, send them a direct link that readily debunks it, and it's out. Someone stumbles in from Twitter or Truth again with the same incorrect info, send the link, the fire is out. Most will have the sense to update their follow list as a result, and be frostier in the future.

And the cost to spin up this sort of rumor has to be pretty substantial. It requires nurturing the shill accounts with credibility, and once the shill is identified its history of work is spoiled.

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– merf 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

It's not two takes. Whoever created the video is trying to mislead us.

See the original here:

https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39

It's Pence stating that to Nancy and then re-iterating it a minute later when he realizes Schumer & Grassley are listening.

I would definitely put any influencer who continues to share it on a shill watchlist as it's been debunked.

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– Anandamide 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Guys grassley is for sure a white hat

He used the Q line in his report and out loud in Congress many times "transparency brings accountability"

Q wouldn't say to trust people unless they had a role to play

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– StormzAComing 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

WTF that's weird

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– merf 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

It's a pretty standard disinformation op. Seed the community with incorrect data that undermines our effectiveness when we blindly share it.

See the original video here.

https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39

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– praying71 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

These are 2 different conversations:

  • one: Pelosi is carrying the phone in one hand

  • second: Pelosi has both hands available and is shaking them nervously

Not sure if the author is suggesting one of these is faked (e.g. Grassley was added artificially) or the author is saying that all people present on the videos have been aware on the message at that time.

EDIT: … or that both videos were aired by 2 different televisions with the same sound but different video. I guess the last is the most likely.

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– motrhed3 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

it is from the same video, just edited. upchuck and piglosi listening to pence, then grassley came in and pence needed to repeat message for all three. the middle was edited out' use discernment while viewing this stuff.

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– praying71 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Same soundtrack cut differently and mounted with different videos recorded within couple of minutes, I guess.

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– horseyPatriot [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This was re-tweeted by Col McGregor. If you read all of the Devolution articles by PatelPatriot, he is convinced that Col McGregor is helping the current SecDef, Chris Miller.

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– merf 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I'd put McGregor on the shill list then, or at least the "not very frosty for a Colonel" list.

https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– TSearch 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It also appears to be two different cameras. The J6 Unselect Committee version seems like an amateur video. The CNN video appears to be shot with a better quality camera.

The question is which one is doctored and why? It could even be both. But, the CNN clip appears to have Pence dubbed over whatever Pelosi is saying. She is definitely talking and gesturing to match in the CNN clip, but all we hear is Pence.

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– barbie555 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So which one is it? Is nothing real anymore?

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– photobuf 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Does this mean Grassley is a black hat, and actor, or does it mean anything at all?

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– horseyPatriot [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Well, Grassley seems to have provided enough clues that he is a white hat. So I would take the black hat option off the table.

This shows that they massaged the videos shown to the American people, maybe including Grassley on the second take to make it appear bi-partisan?

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– Southernwhitebread2 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This

Fake video of Grassley hearing this. Imo it was Grassley who was trying to delay the vote.

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– IMAMAN 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hmmm….

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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