"trust the science" was a mantra that was an inversion of the truth, because the science actually NEVER supported ANY of the covid and climate nonsense (by which I mean the responses: lockdowns, masks, vax, etc). It was all propaganda, and the actual science was buried and defamed, overridden and drowned out.
I'd say that "trust science" is very, very different in nature to "trust the Science", one being practical, empirically supported attitude, and the other a slogan for ignoring actual science by adhering to propaganda.
No. They told us BigBang and 13.8 bn years now they don't know. Not sure what you read but on global waring (now down graded to climate change) we were assured 95% of more, I forget the exact number, of scientists agreed it is all man made and 'the science is settled'! They said here have this statin it will save you from heart attack now they find stains are causing more health issues so swap to this 'miracle pill'. MMR is totally safe yet I have a vaccine damaged autistic son to prove it wasn't. So no I dont trust any scientist they receive funds from organisations who have an agenda and wow they produce the science to support it!
But you make my point. The science here is not the issue. It's the establishment and propaganda.
The so-called "95% of all scientists" thing was a scam from the start.
I never said to trust any scientist. But science itself is an approach and a methodology that has value. Not all scientists are sell outs.
Also, the "trust the science" line is fake. Science does NOT work based on consensus = right.
If you are asking and questioning, that's good and that, believe it or not, is science. Believing in things because you are told them is not science.
At the same time, there are many limits to what science can do. Intellect is not the know all and end all. But, for example, the science that refutes the Climate Change agenda and propaganda is relevant and important, BECAUSE it refutes it.
I'm very sorry about your son. That's a hard blow. Sadly, many of us did trust what we were told, and many like your son have paid the price.
So how do we know which 'scientist's science' might be true?
Since their argument is only the scientists know about the science because it is far to complex for us ordinary mortals to understand! This is the problem we face today, particularly when so many expensive/wrong/bad decisions are based on so called 'settled science'.
The term 'scientist' is far to widely used, and the reality is in their community there is specialisms and arguments within specialisms.
Science is now the new religion used to beat us all into submission! [not]
Thanks for your comments - I look forward to the day when the MMR/Autism lie is finally exposed, and something can start to be done for the millions of young and not so young people can be at least in part compensated for the loss of their lives. The care package for our son costs £250,000 pa.
Lol, really after trust the science on covid, climate change, vaccines but you want to trust the science on this!
"trust the science" was a mantra that was an inversion of the truth, because the science actually NEVER supported ANY of the covid and climate nonsense (by which I mean the responses: lockdowns, masks, vax, etc). It was all propaganda, and the actual science was buried and defamed, overridden and drowned out.
I'd say that "trust science" is very, very different in nature to "trust the Science", one being practical, empirically supported attitude, and the other a slogan for ignoring actual science by adhering to propaganda.
Don't you think?
Trust the Soyence
My favorite was "Trust the Seance!"
... or the soylents.
No. They told us BigBang and 13.8 bn years now they don't know. Not sure what you read but on global waring (now down graded to climate change) we were assured 95% of more, I forget the exact number, of scientists agreed it is all man made and 'the science is settled'! They said here have this statin it will save you from heart attack now they find stains are causing more health issues so swap to this 'miracle pill'. MMR is totally safe yet I have a vaccine damaged autistic son to prove it wasn't. So no I dont trust any scientist they receive funds from organisations who have an agenda and wow they produce the science to support it!
I would say that anyone taking money from entities who have a stake or agenda in said science is NOT a scientist.
But you make my point. The science here is not the issue. It's the establishment and propaganda.
The so-called "95% of all scientists" thing was a scam from the start.
I never said to trust any scientist. But science itself is an approach and a methodology that has value. Not all scientists are sell outs.
Also, the "trust the science" line is fake. Science does NOT work based on consensus = right.
If you are asking and questioning, that's good and that, believe it or not, is science. Believing in things because you are told them is not science.
At the same time, there are many limits to what science can do. Intellect is not the know all and end all. But, for example, the science that refutes the Climate Change agenda and propaganda is relevant and important, BECAUSE it refutes it.
I'm very sorry about your son. That's a hard blow. Sadly, many of us did trust what we were told, and many like your son have paid the price.
So how do we know which 'scientist's science' might be true?
Since their argument is only the scientists know about the science because it is far to complex for us ordinary mortals to understand! This is the problem we face today, particularly when so many expensive/wrong/bad decisions are based on so called 'settled science'.
The term 'scientist' is far to widely used, and the reality is in their community there is specialisms and arguments within specialisms.
Science is now the new religion used to beat us all into submission! [not]
Thanks for your comments - I look forward to the day when the MMR/Autism lie is finally exposed, and something can start to be done for the millions of young and not so young people can be at least in part compensated for the loss of their lives. The care package for our son costs £250,000 pa.