Steve Kirsch’s MIT talk on 11/30 (he starts around 24 mins):
https://rumble.com/v3yovx4-vsrf-live-104-exclusive-mit-speech-by-steve-kirsch.html
The latest 4 articles on Kirsch’s substack are all on this topic:
https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch?r=pezuu&utm_medium=ios
Igor Chudov’s analysis of the data:
Professor Norman Fenton’s response (he is referenced in Kirsch’s MIT talk):
This is so difficult as we know that there are excess deaths and we so badly want proof. How do we tell if this revelation from the DB guy is not staged - my biggest suspicion is the timing of him coming forward - rather late in the game, no? For me as well - he doth protest too much - telling us over and over again why he had to come forward. He comes off as unstable, and for this reason alone I would not share this with anyone who needed convincing. Note: There are multiple videos and each is different - just the introductory one really bothered me.
I suggest that the whistleblower came out because of the change in government.
That’s a good call and could bode well for other whistleblowers-in-waiting who are justifiably too intimidated or too scared to speak out until conditions are safe. Not much short of personal destitution up to and including unemployment, reputational damage, bankruptcy and even death awaits many who try.
Many have lost their employment because they refused the vax. The Labour leader is now saying that their government never 'forced' anyone to take it, but, plenty of people lost their jobs, because their employers said take it or leave. So, they weren't forced, because they chose to leave, or something.
Others took the vax to try and keep their jobs, and were injured.
Yeah, I loved that argument.
Your honour, I told the cashier “put the money in the bag bitch, and I won’t shoot you.” She CHOSE to give me the money, she’s to blame.”
So the data came from a vaccinator payments database... how did he get the death data and link it up? What is the personal ID - an ID generated by the payments database?... this would be meaningless to the outside world so could not be used to link up with any death data. As a DBA, I don't get this at all, but I haven't watched all the videos.
NZ Health vaxxinator payments database included : • age of vaccinee, • batch number, • vaccination centre, • date and dose number, and • number of days to death if that person died during the 2-year period following last vax.
It makes no sense that the PAYMENTS database would be updated with a clients date of death potentially up to 2 years after receiving the vaccine. Makes no sense at all.
It does if the NZ Government receives a monetary or social security insurance kick-back from deaths associated with their jab program
Are you saying the the NZ government receives money for each fatality that the vaccine causes? Who would be giving this money? Gates? Pfizer? WEF... that seems a stretch.
Its more likely to do with the Social security pension payout tidal wave of boomers reaching retirement age and the coffers being empty.
Steve doesn't strike me as someone who wouldn't do his due diligence. Maybe but not likely.
I wished that I could give a specific reason why this isn't setting well with me, but I can't. Something is off with the NZ guy. Maybe how long he waited. It's like another version of a fear psyop, except it's from the "good guy" side, therefore more acceptable.
I read this morning that he is Barry Young and his house is surrounded. He hasn’t worked for the agency in England since 2010 and I thought his acting was off.
Thanks for the update. Although, I didn't have anything concrete to add to the discussion, I felt like it would help anyone else to know they weren't alone if they were picking up on it too. I'm really beyond the point of anger with the fear promoting from both sides. It wears on people and that makes me so sad. God did not give us a spirit of fear. Peace to you Fren!
He mentioned that he had had a 'near-death' experience recently and was 'at peace' with whatever happened as a result of his whistleblowing.
I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to have documented proof of how harmful this vax is and not know how to get the info out.
I'll admit I've kinda tuned out on the vaccine/mask safety issue. In my personal circle the vaccinated/unvaccinated aren't seeing different results--at least not at an obviously different level.
There are a lot of difficulties in performing these analyses:
COVID test results aren't reliable or comparable.
Frequent conflation of "died with" vs. "died from".
Vast differences in record keeping across regions.
Definition of "vaccinated" is not consistent, and frequently < 14 days vaccinated is "unvaccinated".
Hospital treatment procedures can cause tremendously different results. Hospitals can treat vaccinated differently than unvaccinated. What % of the "deaths" were actually hospital murders?
Many studies focus on something like "protection from COVID" but will exclude other health issues.
Speed of virus spread--along with regional differences in all of the above factors--makes regional comparisons difficult to impossible. Especially w/NZ & Australia. (You see NZ and Sweden often being compared right now, which IMO is extremely tricky.) The variant that lands at a place 6 months later probably isn't quite what it was when it first emerged.
So yeah, there are a lot of studies, but they tend to be constructed in ways that aren't useful for extracting meaning.
I'd be curious to look at the record level data if anyone knows a working link.
It's not about Covid, it is about the vax.
some will "come out" simply because people higher than them have already done so, their hands will be forced
What exactly is the reason for suspecting poisoned well? Any specific red flags or are you thinking “too good to be true” in general?
A bit of both, actually. From triaging many inputs about the whistleblower’s genuineness, the ongoing attempts to discredit (trap?) Kirsch including by erstwhile confidantes like Matthew Crawford, flip-flopping Fenton, Chudov’s motives etc. If something is too good to be true - and Kirsch in classic Kirsch fashion certainly sells this data drop as a “first time in human history” data drop - sometimes it just is too good to be true. As with other 5GW limited hangout and/or disinfo narratives of gain of function, bat viruses, lab leaks, pharma/military collusion on jabs etc (not to mention similar tactics deployed across the geopolitical zeitgeist from Ukraine to Israel to CDBCs to digital IDs…), setting up a type of false flag that supports a counter-narrative only to then have it discredited and dismantled later in order to cast doubt on all counter-narratives and their purveyors, is a successful tactic. First, because it drives normies back to their comfort zones in the MSM while reassuring them of their cognitive superiority over crazy conspiracy theorists, and second, provides perfect smokescreens and distractions for the very serious criminality and dangerous psychopathy going on behind the scenes.
For me, in the absence of guard rails with which to discern accurately, I eventually defer to my reading of the messenger, not the message. And on this, I am rooting for Kirsch.
I agree that the NZ guy's claims seems really bold, but I am assuming that Kirsch is not someone who can be easily trapped. Either Kirsch is a meticulous whistleblower himself, who will ensure everything he pushes is also meticulously researched, or anything less than that he is useless to us. My gut tells me that he is gonna be alright.
Gain of Function, bat viruses, Pharma/Mulitary collusion on jabs - none of them were disinfo narratives. Lab Leak was meant to be a limited hangout by the enemy, but it turned around and worked as a gateway to waking up people.
I know so many people (including my parents) who would have initially scoffed at the idea that US funded, created and released the virus, but framing it as lab leak from China ensured they had sufficient open mind to eventually accept the full story.
Same with CDBCs, digital IDs etc. Just because it hasn't been deployed full scale does not mean they were disinfo. They are all real, they are all in the works, and more and more people are aware of these.
Honestly, I cant think of a single disinfo conspiracy theory except Flat Earth that has discredited anyone to the point of hindering the Great Awakening.
Personally I think the full and unrestricted truth (probably still 10 years away), when it comes out, will surpass any conspiracy theories we have heard and would be beyond imaginable.
Thank you very much for the detailed response. You’re right, I over-generalised with my disinfo reference - “flood the zone” might have been better. Multiple narratives that accord, conflict, overlap, align, having the effect of bewilderment more than disinfo. You also make a good point that lab leak stands out as an inadvertent gateway - it was while trying to qualify this theory myself that I came across the US military angle via Katherine Watt, Sasha Latypova et al.
While the - agreed - very real CDBC and digital ID narratives coalesce around the UN, WHO and assorted globalist enemies’ sovereignty-grabs via impending “preparedness” statutes etc, which might get a shot in the arm (pun intended) from a “Catastrophic Contagion” or “Cyber Polygon” false flag blamed on “rogue actors” in our near future, I do feel there is also some flooding of the zone occurring here too, and the real motives are not only obscured, but likely chilling in their malice. The “death of cash” narrative, for example. I have not yet squared the circle of how unfettered criminality continues without physical or fiat currency unless the whole transactional banking, investment and finance apparatus at a global civilisation level has been captured and no longer operates within the confines of internationally agreed standards and conventions, which may well be the case, and perhaps always has been.
Agreed on your last comment 100%. The Great Awakening isn’t just a journey being presented to or surreptitiously imposed on the coddled masses by well-intentioned pattern-analysts, white hats, dissidents, Anons etc. It is also a deeply personal and spiritual experience we must inflict on ourselves in facing up to the horrors and lies of our past and present, and the unthinkable future that beckons if the Awakening does not take hold and force the scale of uprising we are going to need to stop the Holocaust-genocide-enslavement-of-humanity juggernaut.
Those of us awake to this conspiracy fact with small children already live vicariously in that future in our minds’ eyes, while simultaneously preparing for how we can protect the kids after we are gone if all is lost, and fighting back in our small ways to win while we’re still here
Chudov has major concerns with the numbers presented on screen in the whistle blower video regards the 118 batches in the dataset. Batch 1 and 7 in the dataset he was given didn't correlate with the figures shown by the whislteblower. His data showed an increase in numbers vaxxed in these two batches with a corresponding number of more deaths but at a lower overall percent death rate that the figures shown on the video.
So the rest of the Batches actually tallied? That would be a huge confirmation that this guy is not making up random numbers.
The NZ Ministry of Health are not denying the dataset is real. In fact they are prosecuting the Whistleblower for unauthorized use and dissemination. Chudov has only so far analyzed the batches 1 and 7 as far as I can see and has concerns.
Update from Chudov:
https://open.substack.com/pub/igorchudov/p/update-nz-whistleblower?r=pezuu&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
Good overview of the story so far:
https://open.substack.com/pub/2ndsmartestguyintheworld/p/update-new-zealand-government-whistleblower?r=pezuu&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
And another:
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/lost-in-new-zealand-sunday-december?r=pezuu&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
drip DRIP flood