What if we are to build the new world depicted here ourselves?
So far God and Jesus have seemed very content to let us make and live with our own choices and exercise our God-given free will for over 2000 years...why would they suddenly swoop down from the heavens now and fix our shit themselves, just when we're about to demolish worldwide corruption and slaughter?
Nothing in the Bible indicates a pre-tribulation rapture. That’s just modern church dogma. In my opinion, it grew from a fear and denial that suffering and oppression could ever come against us.
Christians should hope that it does, and that they stand through it! Therein lies the blessing!
Kirk Cameron may be a decent guy, but it doesn’t mean his theology is sound
What seems more likely to me is that once we have prepared the way for the king, through the armies of The Enemy, then He will come and make war with the ones that are beyond us, and establish His throne.
"Pre-tribulation rapture" - introduced to American Christians primarily by way of the Scofield Reference Bible. This Bible was bankrolled by a group of New York city "Jews". Go figure....
Because they enjoy not feeling responsible. That’s why it was so easy for Saul to trick Christians back into Old Testament idolatry by changing one letter in his name. He knows how much people crave a scapegoat and a savior. Not willing to look for the kingdom of heaven within themselves as Jesus hoped they would.
I’ve heard Paul’s teachings used 10 times to renounce the Old Testament in full to every 0 times I’ve heard them used to bring people back into idolatry - though I’m not positive what that word is intended to mean in this case.
Care to expound on that?
As far as changing names, there are almost no biblically accurate names in most translations. I doubt Paul did that.
You would need a complete paradigm shift to even feel comfortable considering the answer I would give to this question, and I’m not interested in arguing with an audience present. Feel free to PM me if you want a real discussion on the matter.
I have suggested multiple times here The new Republic is groundwork for new Kingdom, that everything God does functions on an internal logic and has to work within that framework. It is why Jesus had to be a man, why he had to "die", etc
We have way too many fundies here who aren't willing to accept that modern Pauline Christianity is pretty much Sharia law, somehow more concerned with skirt lengths and sex than the actual spiritual war happening this second...just to keep masses controlled and in the dark.
What if we are to build the new world depicted here ourselves?
So far God and Jesus have seemed very content to let us make and live with our own choices and exercise our God-given free will for over 2000 years...why would they suddenly swoop down from the heavens now and fix our shit themselves, just when we're about to demolish worldwide corruption and slaughter?
I agree with this.
Nothing in the Bible indicates a pre-tribulation rapture. That’s just modern church dogma. In my opinion, it grew from a fear and denial that suffering and oppression could ever come against us.
Christians should hope that it does, and that they stand through it! Therein lies the blessing!
Kirk Cameron may be a decent guy, but it doesn’t mean his theology is sound
What seems more likely to me is that once we have prepared the way for the king, through the armies of The Enemy, then He will come and make war with the ones that are beyond us, and establish His throne.
Which is the better story?
"Pre-tribulation rapture" - introduced to American Christians primarily by way of the Scofield Reference Bible. This Bible was bankrolled by a group of New York city "Jews". Go figure....
LOL!!!!!!! No way!!
Hahahaahahhahahhhaha
Imagine them lying. It's easy.
Because they enjoy not feeling responsible. That’s why it was so easy for Saul to trick Christians back into Old Testament idolatry by changing one letter in his name. He knows how much people crave a scapegoat and a savior. Not willing to look for the kingdom of heaven within themselves as Jesus hoped they would.
My best "macho man" Oooooh yeah to this comment
What?
I’ve heard Paul’s teachings used 10 times to renounce the Old Testament in full to every 0 times I’ve heard them used to bring people back into idolatry - though I’m not positive what that word is intended to mean in this case.
Care to expound on that?
As far as changing names, there are almost no biblically accurate names in most translations. I doubt Paul did that.
You would need a complete paradigm shift to even feel comfortable considering the answer I would give to this question, and I’m not interested in arguing with an audience present. Feel free to PM me if you want a real discussion on the matter.
Is it a gnostic paradigm? I don’t know how to PM.
I have suggested multiple times here The new Republic is groundwork for new Kingdom, that everything God does functions on an internal logic and has to work within that framework. It is why Jesus had to be a man, why he had to "die", etc
We have way too many fundies here who aren't willing to accept that modern Pauline Christianity is pretty much Sharia law, somehow more concerned with skirt lengths and sex than the actual spiritual war happening this second...just to keep masses controlled and in the dark.