Its amazing to watch Trump making his 4D chess moves. Keep focusing on immunity. Get everyone worked up and yearn for Trump to lose immunity.
Then suddenly bring up all other crimes that have always been done under the same immunity.
Trump does not want immunity. He was to "expose" whats done under immunity. He wants his enemies to take the axe to the very thing thats keeping their own crimes well protected.
There is a good chance we will see that he "failed" in his bid for immunity. Only after that can we start holding Obama, and co to account, at least publicly.
thats why Q says hes taking the arrows and basically becoming the martyr. they will crucify him and imprison him but it will all set a precdent for the future presidents/MAGA heirs to go after other corrupt presidents and leaders etc.
They're all trapped. Like cornered cockroaches and Trump is the foot that'll crush 'em all.
This military sting operation has been planned for years if not decades.
The best is yet to come. That I'm sure of!
My gratitude outweighs my confusion making this a very humbling experience.
Let's keep pointing this out. The Constitution does NOT offer presidential immunity. It only states (and this is merely by interpretation of separation of powers) that the Office of the President is not subject to the judiciary during the term of the presidency.
Only Congress can prosecute the Office of the President.
There is nothing...zero...in the Constitution that prevents ex-presidents from being prosecuted for past crimes once they are no longer serving in office though. As long as the statute of limitations has not expired, an individual who used to be president can be prosecuted in the judicial system.
There is no conflict with separation of powers in that case. An ex-president can obviously argue that what he did, he did as CiC in his capacity to defend America, and therefore he is innocent, but in theory he may be required to prove that when mounting his defense.
This is what Trump is pushing the courts to clearly state. I applaud him for this, because the lefties are going to walk right into the trap. Unfortunately, it does open up presidents to politically motivated persecution after they have left office, which could have a chilling effect on what they do while in office. SCOTUS will need to be very careful on how they resolve that problem.
BTW, murder (e.g. drone strikes) has no statute of limitations (18 USC 3281) Nor do sexual crimes against children (18 USC 3283)
"Unfortunately, it does open up presidents to politically motivated persecution after they have left office, which could have a chilling effect on what they do while in office. SCOTUS will need to be very careful on how they resolve that problem."
Definitely a "be careful what you wish for" scenario.
There's another aspect to this that people seem to be missing. Obama was not constitutionally eligible to even run for president. By extension, he never had presidential immunity as fraud cancels out any protections he would have had under standard practice.
Biden won through egregious fraud. Again, by extension, any protections he would have under standard practice are gone.
Trump doesn't need presidential immunity to go away to pursue the last two criminals to occupy the White House, but it is useful to him to destroy the argument being used to attack him by supporting the doctrine of presidential immunity.
Its amazing to watch Trump making his 4D chess moves. Keep focusing on immunity. Get everyone worked up and yearn for Trump to lose immunity.
Then suddenly bring up all other crimes that have always been done under the same immunity.
Trump does not want immunity. He was to "expose" whats done under immunity. He wants his enemies to take the axe to the very thing thats keeping their own crimes well protected.
There is a good chance we will see that he "failed" in his bid for immunity. Only after that can we start holding Obama, and co to account, at least publicly.
Absolutely spot on....
https://www.salon.com/2010/05/03/obama_drone_joke_jonas_brothers/
thats why Q says hes taking the arrows and basically becoming the martyr. they will crucify him and imprison him but it will all set a precdent for the future presidents/MAGA heirs to go after other corrupt presidents and leaders etc.
Which post are you referring to?
cant remember off the top of my head but search up keywords about slings and arrows etc
Wasnt implying he was going to become a martyr. Simply that he can withstand any attacks.
u/#q3728
That's the one!
They're all trapped. Like cornered cockroaches and Trump is the foot that'll crush 'em all. This military sting operation has been planned for years if not decades. The best is yet to come. That I'm sure of! My gratitude outweighs my confusion making this a very humbling experience.
Let's keep pointing this out. The Constitution does NOT offer presidential immunity. It only states (and this is merely by interpretation of separation of powers) that the Office of the President is not subject to the judiciary during the term of the presidency.
Only Congress can prosecute the Office of the President.
There is nothing...zero...in the Constitution that prevents ex-presidents from being prosecuted for past crimes once they are no longer serving in office though. As long as the statute of limitations has not expired, an individual who used to be president can be prosecuted in the judicial system.
There is no conflict with separation of powers in that case. An ex-president can obviously argue that what he did, he did as CiC in his capacity to defend America, and therefore he is innocent, but in theory he may be required to prove that when mounting his defense.
This is what Trump is pushing the courts to clearly state. I applaud him for this, because the lefties are going to walk right into the trap. Unfortunately, it does open up presidents to politically motivated persecution after they have left office, which could have a chilling effect on what they do while in office. SCOTUS will need to be very careful on how they resolve that problem.
BTW, murder (e.g. drone strikes) has no statute of limitations (18 USC 3281) Nor do sexual crimes against children (18 USC 3283)
It's going to be fun.
Those drone strikes were god awful. I think obamas frost drone strikes was a school or wedding I think?
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush
"Unfortunately, it does open up presidents to politically motivated persecution after they have left office, which could have a chilling effect on what they do while in office. SCOTUS will need to be very careful on how they resolve that problem."
Definitely a "be careful what you wish for" scenario.
“If Presidential immunity is being offered to one President, shouldn’t it be offered to another?”
This could very much boomerang in the other direction... #PrecendentTrump
https://nitter.net/SteveLovesAmmo/status/1744773598554771478
This entire 4 years was about setting legal precedent.
Absolutely...
The only problem with this line of logic is, the Kenyan was not a legitimate president.
Which, more likely, makes him an enemy combatant. Taking out American citizens with drone strikes, war crimes against the American citizens.
There's another aspect to this that people seem to be missing. Obama was not constitutionally eligible to even run for president. By extension, he never had presidential immunity as fraud cancels out any protections he would have had under standard practice.
Biden won through egregious fraud. Again, by extension, any protections he would have under standard practice are gone.
Trump doesn't need presidential immunity to go away to pursue the last two criminals to occupy the White House, but it is useful to him to destroy the argument being used to attack him by supporting the doctrine of presidential immunity.
Let's stop using MSM weasel-words ("strike") and call it what really is: MURDER BY DRONE.