It’s mind boggling how quickly things can change if you just allow Americans to start building. When Trump took “some” of the regulations off of the energy industry it took two years to become energy independent. This was after 50+ years of the country falling behind and people saying it would be impossible. The funny thing is that he really didn’t do anything other than take the boot off of the neck of the oil industry.
Fiat is debt slavery. Debt forgiveness is coming. What do you do when 13848 has bankrupted many (most?) of the creditors of the publics debt? Do some people win and some lose? I dont think the Patriots are into choosing winners and losers. If national debts are reset and some of the publics debts also are reset through the elimination of their creditors by 13848, then all debt must be reset.
The EO only blocks the properties of the criminals:
Sec. 2. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security:
It. does not say anything about what happens to this property, but it can be argued that it will become property of the Treasury.
But, the EO says nothing about resetting any debts, what so ever. Essentially this EO will put the entire economy on freeze. This is what I believe the precipice would look like (10 days of darkness? I dont know how long this state will continiue).
However, what happens afterwards, what happens to these debts, are they forgiven? It can be argued that it is up to the people at that point to show their mandate as to what happens.
When 13848 is applied, these debtors will cease to exist in their current form. Their assets may revert to the Treasury but then does the Treasury become the new holder of the debt owed by the people and demand payment? Debt accrued through a fiat debt slavery system thats akin to usury? And if that debt is forgiven what about the debt owed to the very few companies that have not actively engaged in acts forbidden by 13848? They are still engaged in a system of usury even if it doesnt reach the level of forfeiture through 13848.
I cant see the Patriot WHs choosing winners and losers. What happens to one, happens to all. If the fiat dollar is reset to a treasury dollar based on gold and using blockchain, I think the entire financial system gets reset to day 1 and that includes all debt by all parties, public and private. Its the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. Its fraud vitiates everything.
I played it by the book. I paid mine, my wifes and my kids student loans in full. My house and my properties are all paid for. I have no credit card debt. All my equipment is paid for. I dont even have a car loan, I buy new vehicles with cash. My company uses American Express and that is paid in full every month. My materials bills are paid in full every month. Is a debt reset a bit unfair to me? Yes it is. But its the only way forward to correct a system based on Babylonian money magick and usury.
Their assets may revert to the Treasury but then does the Treasury become the new holder of the debt owed by the people and demand payment?
Yes, it will. And its not about whether the debt was based on debt slavery or not. Everything has to be by the book. Exactly what the EOs say and not a word more or less - thats how it would work.
Perhaps, once people learn the constitution and see that it specifically says what currency is and who can print it, it can be applied and Treasury can simply forgive these debts.
However, I think everything will happen exactly by the book, and crimes that have been left unspecified (and magic money falls under this) will need to be tackled by the free people, making their first informed opinion in millenia.
By the book means returning the stolen wealth of the people back to the rightful owners. Since they have been stealing from us for centuries through myriad schemes, all wealth belongs to the people. It is our labor that produces it. Government produces nothing and never has. It doesnt even protect our well being. Government has been nothing but a mafia shakedown scheme since its inception.
Here is the dilemna. Those who were irresponsible with debt and bought crap and lived crappy lifestyle will be able to basically write it all off. But those who worked hard and saved up and bought stuff without getting into debt, will now feel like they got the short end of the stick.
Hopefully everyone will realise going forward money itself doesnt have to mean so much and every one can live a decent lifestyle being able to afford all the reasonable stuff.
True. It can't be fair to everyone. But not much in life is fair all the time..... I'm reminded of the Bible verse how some of the workers hired late in the day received the same as some who worked all day.
Thats possible. But any kind of wealth distribution would cause some or other part of the soceity feel its unfair, and we cant enter the free world with some part of the population feeling unhappy.
This is the part I am happy someone else is in charge of. We can just watch and see where it goes.
I think if you get rid of the debt and the massive interest we pay yearly on the debt out of our budget, then import taxes alone might be capable of funding the federal government. Get rid of all the corrupt theives and it would be even easier.
There will still need to be local taxes, but those could be capped and local governments made to run on what comes in instead of going into debt. If the US Treasury is the only one capable of making loans legally then they can force the issue.
There would be no need for personal income taxes.
When I voted in the Texas Primary this year there was a proposition on the ballot asking if property taxes should be completely eliminated. Never seen anything like that before, and it also stipulated that they would not be allowed to try to make that up with some other tax.
I don't have debt. Some is smarts, some is luck, most is time. But I don't mind if others get their debts erased, as long as it doesn't come out of the hide of anyone but the debt slavers.
Love @EchoX! He knows and shows what is happening on his channel! Lincoln and JFK knew and they were murdered for trying to fight the DS Central Bankers. Thank you winn! Hope everyone will watch this!
That’s the crazy thing. Working class has been wiped the last 4 years actually since 2008. The wealth transfer has been historic. Right now I see rich getting richer even with a new monetary system. How to you reverse 100 years of robbery?
Add to that the exponential wealth transfer from working class, who were locked down, and Big Tech, Big Food, Big Medicine, etc. People shopping online due to fears of covid or refusal to wear mask, small business deemed nonessential forced to close, all that must have been a huge swing just in 3 years
Yes I think it’s said to be some 4 trillion. Many small businesses aren’t coming back. Also funerals and medical care are expensive. Would be great if something could be done.
The only way I can see that happening is with price controls on everything right down to a stick of gum. I don't see merchants accepting pennies on the dollar for the goods they purchased for outrageous prices. To over come just the psychological fear of that would have to be mandated and enforced.
I just don't see an event that does that working. I think we will see a higher exchange rate, and that the money will be brought back to higher purchasing power gadually using a reduction in the supply of money over time. They can't just do an instant reset. That would create chaos and panic.
The central banksters destroyed the value of our money over the period of greater than a century by creating debt out of thin air, and going full steam on their printing presses. Any reversal has to be gradual in my opinion.
We don’t need Gesara or Nesara. We just need the government to get out of the way and stop robbing us.
Sorry, the best we can do is about 100 billion to a Ukrainian cokehead.
It’s mind boggling how quickly things can change if you just allow Americans to start building. When Trump took “some” of the regulations off of the energy industry it took two years to become energy independent. This was after 50+ years of the country falling behind and people saying it would be impossible. The funny thing is that he really didn’t do anything other than take the boot off of the neck of the oil industry.
Highly skeptical of any kind of socialistic wealth transfer flans. I dont think thats gonna be part of the Q plan.
If we remove the govt debt and tax burden. The economy will boom and everyone will have more money.
No commie shit needed.
What I'm praying for! ☝️
Going forward that would definitely work. The real question is, what do we do with people who have saddled themselves with extreme debt?
Fiat is debt slavery. Debt forgiveness is coming. What do you do when 13848 has bankrupted many (most?) of the creditors of the publics debt? Do some people win and some lose? I dont think the Patriots are into choosing winners and losers. If national debts are reset and some of the publics debts also are reset through the elimination of their creditors by 13848, then all debt must be reset.
The EO only blocks the properties of the criminals:
It. does not say anything about what happens to this property, but it can be argued that it will become property of the Treasury.
But, the EO says nothing about resetting any debts, what so ever. Essentially this EO will put the entire economy on freeze. This is what I believe the precipice would look like (10 days of darkness? I dont know how long this state will continiue).
However, what happens afterwards, what happens to these debts, are they forgiven? It can be argued that it is up to the people at that point to show their mandate as to what happens.
When 13848 is applied, these debtors will cease to exist in their current form. Their assets may revert to the Treasury but then does the Treasury become the new holder of the debt owed by the people and demand payment? Debt accrued through a fiat debt slavery system thats akin to usury? And if that debt is forgiven what about the debt owed to the very few companies that have not actively engaged in acts forbidden by 13848? They are still engaged in a system of usury even if it doesnt reach the level of forfeiture through 13848.
I cant see the Patriot WHs choosing winners and losers. What happens to one, happens to all. If the fiat dollar is reset to a treasury dollar based on gold and using blockchain, I think the entire financial system gets reset to day 1 and that includes all debt by all parties, public and private. Its the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. Its fraud vitiates everything.
I played it by the book. I paid mine, my wifes and my kids student loans in full. My house and my properties are all paid for. I have no credit card debt. All my equipment is paid for. I dont even have a car loan, I buy new vehicles with cash. My company uses American Express and that is paid in full every month. My materials bills are paid in full every month. Is a debt reset a bit unfair to me? Yes it is. But its the only way forward to correct a system based on Babylonian money magick and usury.
Yes, it will. And its not about whether the debt was based on debt slavery or not. Everything has to be by the book. Exactly what the EOs say and not a word more or less - thats how it would work.
Perhaps, once people learn the constitution and see that it specifically says what currency is and who can print it, it can be applied and Treasury can simply forgive these debts.
However, I think everything will happen exactly by the book, and crimes that have been left unspecified (and magic money falls under this) will need to be tackled by the free people, making their first informed opinion in millenia.
By the book means returning the stolen wealth of the people back to the rightful owners. Since they have been stealing from us for centuries through myriad schemes, all wealth belongs to the people. It is our labor that produces it. Government produces nothing and never has. It doesnt even protect our well being. Government has been nothing but a mafia shakedown scheme since its inception.
If we go to a new currency people can pay off the old debt for penny's on the new doller. It wouldn't be in much demand.
Trump can make some kind of deal, he's very good at it.
Here is the dilemna. Those who were irresponsible with debt and bought crap and lived crappy lifestyle will be able to basically write it all off. But those who worked hard and saved up and bought stuff without getting into debt, will now feel like they got the short end of the stick.
Hopefully everyone will realise going forward money itself doesnt have to mean so much and every one can live a decent lifestyle being able to afford all the reasonable stuff.
True. It can't be fair to everyone. But not much in life is fair all the time..... I'm reminded of the Bible verse how some of the workers hired late in the day received the same as some who worked all day.
We just have to do the best we can and move on.
I agree.
Agreed.
Just a thought..
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In French, Cestui que vie means "he who lives." The legal term describes the person who is the beneficiary and has rights to property in an estate.
edit: Aren't Birth certificates technically a bond???
And drill baby drill.
I'm wondering if it's a pay back for a lifetime of taxes??
Thats possible. But any kind of wealth distribution would cause some or other part of the soceity feel its unfair, and we cant enter the free world with some part of the population feeling unhappy.
This is the part I am happy someone else is in charge of. We can just watch and see where it goes.
Agreed....perhaps a flat tax?
I'm comfy that POTUS & WH's have a smooth transition planned.
I think if you get rid of the debt and the massive interest we pay yearly on the debt out of our budget, then import taxes alone might be capable of funding the federal government. Get rid of all the corrupt theives and it would be even easier.
There will still need to be local taxes, but those could be capped and local governments made to run on what comes in instead of going into debt. If the US Treasury is the only one capable of making loans legally then they can force the issue.
There would be no need for personal income taxes.
When I voted in the Texas Primary this year there was a proposition on the ballot asking if property taxes should be completely eliminated. Never seen anything like that before, and it also stipulated that they would not be allowed to try to make that up with some other tax.
I'm eager to vote Tuesday!
I don't have debt. Some is smarts, some is luck, most is time. But I don't mind if others get their debts erased, as long as it doesn't come out of the hide of anyone but the debt slavers.
Thats my stand as well. If it helps humanity to take a collective deep breath and start on a good footing, thats what we should do.
Reparations for a lifetime as a debt slave?
To be clear I have no personal debt. My company has a small amount but thats paid off monthly. My equipment is all free and clear.
13848
you might like to watch this joy https://videy.co/v?id=K1lOqQnA
Love @EchoX! He knows and shows what is happening on his channel! Lincoln and JFK knew and they were murdered for trying to fight the DS Central Bankers. Thank you winn! Hope everyone will watch this!
yw<3 my first time seeing him
I usually post him but he had reposted the post above ☝️so I did as well
1007 Fed dollars to 1 Treasury dollar?
If his exchange rate is right most people won't have shit. If have a hundred thousand Fed dollars now you have 99 dollars and change.
You say you only have 10K, here's your 10 bucks.
What if the purchasing power goes back to levels in 1800s though? Like, 1 penny actually does something? idk, just speculation. I'm a finance noob
Correct. What if you could buy that shiny new Tesla for $0.50? $10 would seem like a fortune.
Then what would you use to buy a carton of milk. A penny would be worth 1/50th of a Tesla?
And we would never have to carry a heavy pocket full of useless weight again haha
That’s the crazy thing. Working class has been wiped the last 4 years actually since 2008. The wealth transfer has been historic. Right now I see rich getting richer even with a new monetary system. How to you reverse 100 years of robbery?
Add to that the exponential wealth transfer from working class, who were locked down, and Big Tech, Big Food, Big Medicine, etc. People shopping online due to fears of covid or refusal to wear mask, small business deemed nonessential forced to close, all that must have been a huge swing just in 3 years
Yes I think it’s said to be some 4 trillion. Many small businesses aren’t coming back. Also funerals and medical care are expensive. Would be great if something could be done.
The only way I can see that happening is with price controls on everything right down to a stick of gum. I don't see merchants accepting pennies on the dollar for the goods they purchased for outrageous prices. To over come just the psychological fear of that would have to be mandated and enforced.
I just don't see an event that does that working. I think we will see a higher exchange rate, and that the money will be brought back to higher purchasing power gadually using a reduction in the supply of money over time. They can't just do an instant reset. That would create chaos and panic.
The central banksters destroyed the value of our money over the period of greater than a century by creating debt out of thin air, and going full steam on their printing presses. Any reversal has to be gradual in my opinion.
Wish i knew...
The value of a treasury dollar will be linked to gold and/or silver. Not the fiat dollar.
u/HumblePede
Looks like u/HumblePede hasn't been around for three months due to, what appears to be, a family emergency. Hope they and theirs are doing okay.
Me, too... prayers up! 🙏
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jubilee sounds good.
That European nation on the left, with the black hole, is thst Germany?