Move and Counter-move. Theory is that Deep State would benefit from removal of Biden as President and replacement with someone else prior to 2024 Election in order to make it easier for the "replacement POTUS" to win "their own term in 2024". Trump benefits from keeping Biden in place in numerous ways, especially as obvious, direct contrast during a head-to-head electoral matchup.
The play is similar to what was done with Gerald Ford where he was appointed as VP just prior to the forced/coerced removal of Nixon after Nixon VP was pushed out, making Gerald Ford an unelected President that was then defacto nominee for Republican Party in 1976 in order to block Reagan at GOP convention.
Issues presented by removal of Harris and then DJT being SoH:
Deep State is unlikely to get another VP approved by Senate prior to 2024 Election under a tight timeframe, and position would be vacant until January 6 certification or selection of new VP, unless the whole action was pre-arranged and done very, very quickly (can the Senate do anything quickly?).
If DJT is Speaker of the House and VP position is vacant, then an attempt to remove Biden via 25th Amendment would make DJT "Acting President". This would discourage removal of Biden, preventing "sneak one in" action.
If Biden is actually removed in some way, and Trump becomes "Acting President" before, during, and after 2024 Election; then Deep State can challenge 2024 Election results as long as they want, but Trump still legally in charge as long as they engage in their shenanigans, AND is eligible for another term in 2028 (unless Devolution is publicly revealed and applicable to term limits).
Plausible...also keep in mind that PDJT will be 78 this year. Now you're talking in 2028 when he will be 82. Hopefully he has Don Jr in the wings or a qualified MAGA VP that can lead the next movie.
Good point. Age may only be a "media issue" (i.e. its OK to have 90 year old senators serving for 50 consecutive years, but not OK to have an 82 year old President?).
Contingencies are likely being gamed out, but recall that much of what we are seeing parallels events of the 1824 stolen election [foreign interference] shifted backward 4 years (i.e. 1824 is equivalent to 2020) and the events of the 1976 stolen election (i.e. 1976 is equivalent to 2020). We might be in for another 4 years of Deep State chaos, and Trump can be "Acting President" for 4 years if the 2024 Election is challenged for all 4 years or a big part of his term. This also neutralizes public exposure of Devolution and invalidation of Trump's 2nd term by admitting he actually won in 2020 to keep him from taking office in 2025.
It is a bit of a trap. Either Deep State allows Trump to serve 2025-2029, and takes "controllable" damage, or Trump serves 2025-2033 and they get obliterated. And this does not account for his VP serving 8 years after either 2029 or 2033. We are seeing a parallel to Andrew Jackson and his VP serving 16 years to ensure full destruction of 2nd Central Bank which got final liquidation in 1841 (after Jackson terminated its charter on September 10, 1833 and attempts were made to keep it alive in 1836). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bank_of_the_United_States
TY for pointing out the stolen election of 1824 & connection to the 2nd bank. I never knew that & really appreciate this info. I have heard it said that Trump is similar to Jackson. What I don't understand is how was the 1976 election stolen & how is that a swamp move? You do realize that Ford was on the Warren commission & that as president he chose none other than Rockefeller to be his VP, right?
I suspect that Ford was controlled via leverage (for his Warren commission involvement) by whitehats operating behind the scenes. It is possible that Ford was intentionally "dirtied up" for use later. Nelson Rockefeller appears to have been tribunal'ed and then executed for treason on 26JAN1979 (assassination attempts on Ford) [probably by the same people controlling Ford]. "Heart attack" used as cover just like LBJ 22JAN1973.
If you look at electoral count in 1976, it appears that flipping just one or two states would have had Ford elected rather than Carter. Also note that 1976 is still the lowest voter turnout on record because the "swine flu" scare was used specifically for that purpose (just like COVID-19 used in 2020). If you suppress voter turnout, it is easier to flip vote counts just enough to change the outcome in 2 key electoral college states. This appears to have been done for nearly identical reasons as 2020, except in 1976 it was "Soviet Communist takeover", rather than "CCP Communist takeover" as in 2020. Whitehats appear to have let it happen as cover for behind the scenes actions and preparation for Reagan in 1980 election (similar to current 4 year preparation for Trump II in 2024 election).
I like the implied threat of DJT just sitting there as SoH daring Obama and his buddies to remove Biden. Optics are fantastic. He doesn't even need to do anything, just sit there.
Neither Harris nor Biden have to be removed from office to remove them from the 2024 ticket, which takes some of the fun out of the presidential succession game.
Correct. Per changes in Democratic Party rules they can replace nominee with whoever they want after Convention. However, from a practical, public, propaganda, power, and narrative perspective, there IS a benefit for an "incumbent President" replacement to be the Party nominee. Personally, I believe Biden will refuse to stand down, and Dems will attempt to assassinate him and blame it on "far right" and Trump. They were caught attempting to do this in 2021 prior to inauguration, allegedly. Trump being SoH might actually prevent another attempt like this on Biden, OR DS may try and use it in attempt to frame him (possible trap being set by DS?).
Look at 1968 Democratic primaries pre-RFK assassination to see how this might play out: Johnson appears to have been put into submission as incumbent POTUS not running for re-election (unheard of), but possibly interfered in election by telling CIA to take out RFK who had incriminating information on Johnson's crimes and had just become the presumptive Dem nominee (CIA hit allegedly). 2024 Democratic Party National Convention may be rhyme or repeat of 1968 (and it is in the same location, Chicago).
as much as I don't think.. DJT will become speaker of the house, I want it to happen more than anything. i want to see liberal hive mind heads explode in synchrony
This supposes that republicans can maintain the house majority. We are dangerously close to losing the house before elections. Then it takes just 1 or 2 Republicans to not vote for his for speaker.
Correct. Watch closely. Unlikely that Dems will publicly vote for DJT for Speaker of House, and unclear if Republicans could get it back if they lose it without additional Dems being put into submission (which we just saw today with another Dem departure). Slow motion move/countermove playing out in the House right now to control the numbers, imo.
If they were controllable why have them resign? Do you think Fred Upton is a reliable R vote? I'd rather have a controlled Democrat that will vote the way I need them to vote if an important vote comes up than a +1 advantage on paper with a backstabbing traitor like Fred Upton able to fuck us.
And another Dem departure today to "even the score". Are Dems being put into submission to maintain numbers as countermove to Republicans resigning? How many positions are going to be vacant by election at this rate? /s
If they were under control why would you need them to resign? It would be far better to keep them in to vote the way you need the vote to go as a counterbalance to the people you don't control. That goes for both Republicans and Democrats resigning.
I'm not convinced that everyone is under direct control. It looks to me like "control the chessboard" and "take control or cut the puppet strings" as needed. And many puppets may not know who is actually controlling them. Maybe they just get orders and/or threats indirectly, and do what they are told? [SPECULATION].
So re-read what you said, if that were true how were they made to resign? If you can deliver the message to resign and have it acted on you can deliver the message to vote no on bill whatever too.
Unknown exactly. I suspect sealed indictments are being used as leverage. We might actually see lots of people voting "out of character" or "against Party instructions" at the right time, but at that point everyone will know something is going on behind the scenes (which is currently still publicly a "conspiracy theory" and being used as cover for a while yet, apparently).
There appear to be 2 parts of DOJ/FBI. Durham investigation had zero leaks. Team Cabal may know about indictments, but not know 100% of the details because they are sealed.
So should “pressured Reps” go public in MSM (Main Stream Media) and say they are being blackmailed and coerced via lawfare and selective prosecution into resigning? Good counterstrategy, imo, but they are NOT for some reason, probably due to the egregious nature of their crimes (child rape or murder?).
Plus, MSM executives are likely all implicated, and any investigation or discussion uncovers more turds like media ties to Epstein, Hollywood, CIA, Mossad, and MI-6 honeypot operations. So MSM completely silent on it all.
They are not totally under control, it's more like the WH can force them to resign because of what they have on them. Don't forget that any black hat that votes white get's Clintoned.
Sorry, that seems like an awfully convenient explanation. When you get involved with the bad elements you don't get to walk away on your own terms, you get to walk away when they don't need you anymore. If they'll kill you for voting against their interests why do you think they wouldn't kill you for trying to walk away?
You have a good point. idk exactly how they do it, maybe wh gives them protection in exchange for going mute but we know that this seems to be the way it goes if they go.
Do you guys really think that President Trump would be elected as SOH right now? Especially when he's the Republican candidate for President? I'm pretty sure he's not going to have time to be SOH and do all the campaigning for President. Remember less than 6 months ago when McCarthy was getting pulled, and people were all overly excited that Trump would be the next SOH? If it didn't go through then, why would it happen now, when the Presidential election is about 7 months away? What sense does that make?
Sometimes I wonder how sincere some people are about their beliefs, or if they're just bored and want to play "what if?".
It only happens if VP gets removed. If that does not happen, this countermove yields little benefit in terms of holding Biden in place. Enemy-move dependent countermove only at this time, imo.
Why would maximum panic amongst a group of people who we know kill threats and are fine sacrificing innocent people if it advances their interests be a good thing exactly?
Maybe to flush out hidden operators or sleepers, or to force a tactical mistake by enemy operators who do not have full knowledge of the situation? Big rats are cornered, know it, and are dangerous, but easy to predict and counter. Little rats are cornered, but don't know it, and might be unknown and unpredictable.
Set a "fake public narrative" condition that automatically "greenlights" the little rats into action, and they expose themselves without even knowing they were under surveillance?
I think the [DS] knows, or is at least under the current assumption that PDJT is in fact CiC, so [they]'re tossing the low hanging fruit like this "idea" of DJT's possible SoH selection at certain pols in a very long shot attempt at being able to eventually thwart him in this manner. In other words, PDJT is forcing [them] to expend ammo by openly throwing to [their] followers and potentials any and all ideas in the vain hopes that one of them will stick, because [they] 100% know that Trump/MAGA is coming for [them]...and Hell's coming with him.
Trump isn't stupid enough to fall for it, so this isn't an overly plausible or likely scenario for PDJT to find his way back to the White House.
Yes. Possible feint to draw out more Deep State operators. There are Deep State "controllers" that know the Devolution/COG situation, but they cannot tell the lower level operators because they need them to be "blind operators" and unquestioningly obedient. Their control pyramid is being used against them, especially when a high level cabal player gets replaced, but doesn't say "STOP" to the lower level operators who continue to commit crimes.
My take on this is that there actually is a tactical reason and time for Trump to make this move and the continued opportunities where he could actually make that move are being "played up" publicly AND intentionally to keep the enemy off balance and make them think "it is just talk". It may be, but this is how you soften up your enemy in order to spring a surprise on them at the right time (per Sun Tzu, Art of War). Enemy moves may force this countermove at the appropriate time.
Move and Counter-move. Theory is that Deep State would benefit from removal of Biden as President and replacement with someone else prior to 2024 Election in order to make it easier for the "replacement POTUS" to win "their own term in 2024". Trump benefits from keeping Biden in place in numerous ways, especially as obvious, direct contrast during a head-to-head electoral matchup.
The play is similar to what was done with Gerald Ford where he was appointed as VP just prior to the forced/coerced removal of Nixon after Nixon VP was pushed out, making Gerald Ford an unelected President that was then defacto nominee for Republican Party in 1976 in order to block Reagan at GOP convention.
Issues presented by removal of Harris and then DJT being SoH:
Deep State is unlikely to get another VP approved by Senate prior to 2024 Election under a tight timeframe, and position would be vacant until January 6 certification or selection of new VP, unless the whole action was pre-arranged and done very, very quickly (can the Senate do anything quickly?).
If DJT is Speaker of the House and VP position is vacant, then an attempt to remove Biden via 25th Amendment would make DJT "Acting President". This would discourage removal of Biden, preventing "sneak one in" action.
If Biden is actually removed in some way, and Trump becomes "Acting President" before, during, and after 2024 Election; then Deep State can challenge 2024 Election results as long as they want, but Trump still legally in charge as long as they engage in their shenanigans, AND is eligible for another term in 2028 (unless Devolution is publicly revealed and applicable to term limits).
Plausible...also keep in mind that PDJT will be 78 this year. Now you're talking in 2028 when he will be 82. Hopefully he has Don Jr in the wings or a qualified MAGA VP that can lead the next movie.
Good point. Age may only be a "media issue" (i.e. its OK to have 90 year old senators serving for 50 consecutive years, but not OK to have an 82 year old President?).
Contingencies are likely being gamed out, but recall that much of what we are seeing parallels events of the 1824 stolen election [foreign interference] shifted backward 4 years (i.e. 1824 is equivalent to 2020) and the events of the 1976 stolen election (i.e. 1976 is equivalent to 2020). We might be in for another 4 years of Deep State chaos, and Trump can be "Acting President" for 4 years if the 2024 Election is challenged for all 4 years or a big part of his term. This also neutralizes public exposure of Devolution and invalidation of Trump's 2nd term by admitting he actually won in 2020 to keep him from taking office in 2025.
It is a bit of a trap. Either Deep State allows Trump to serve 2025-2029, and takes "controllable" damage, or Trump serves 2025-2033 and they get obliterated. And this does not account for his VP serving 8 years after either 2029 or 2033. We are seeing a parallel to Andrew Jackson and his VP serving 16 years to ensure full destruction of 2nd Central Bank which got final liquidation in 1841 (after Jackson terminated its charter on September 10, 1833 and attempts were made to keep it alive in 1836). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bank_of_the_United_States
TY for pointing out the stolen election of 1824 & connection to the 2nd bank. I never knew that & really appreciate this info. I have heard it said that Trump is similar to Jackson. What I don't understand is how was the 1976 election stolen & how is that a swamp move? You do realize that Ford was on the Warren commission & that as president he chose none other than Rockefeller to be his VP, right?
I suspect that Ford was controlled via leverage (for his Warren commission involvement) by whitehats operating behind the scenes. It is possible that Ford was intentionally "dirtied up" for use later. Nelson Rockefeller appears to have been tribunal'ed and then executed for treason on 26JAN1979 (assassination attempts on Ford) [probably by the same people controlling Ford]. "Heart attack" used as cover just like LBJ 22JAN1973.
If you look at electoral count in 1976, it appears that flipping just one or two states would have had Ford elected rather than Carter. Also note that 1976 is still the lowest voter turnout on record because the "swine flu" scare was used specifically for that purpose (just like COVID-19 used in 2020). If you suppress voter turnout, it is easier to flip vote counts just enough to change the outcome in 2 key electoral college states. This appears to have been done for nearly identical reasons as 2020, except in 1976 it was "Soviet Communist takeover", rather than "CCP Communist takeover" as in 2020. Whitehats appear to have let it happen as cover for behind the scenes actions and preparation for Reagan in 1980 election (similar to current 4 year preparation for Trump II in 2024 election).
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I like the implied threat of DJT just sitting there as SoH daring Obama and his buddies to remove Biden. Optics are fantastic. He doesn't even need to do anything, just sit there.
Neither Harris nor Biden have to be removed from office to remove them from the 2024 ticket, which takes some of the fun out of the presidential succession game.
Correct. Per changes in Democratic Party rules they can replace nominee with whoever they want after Convention. However, from a practical, public, propaganda, power, and narrative perspective, there IS a benefit for an "incumbent President" replacement to be the Party nominee. Personally, I believe Biden will refuse to stand down, and Dems will attempt to assassinate him and blame it on "far right" and Trump. They were caught attempting to do this in 2021 prior to inauguration, allegedly. Trump being SoH might actually prevent another attempt like this on Biden, OR DS may try and use it in attempt to frame him (possible trap being set by DS?).
Look at 1968 Democratic primaries pre-RFK assassination to see how this might play out: Johnson appears to have been put into submission as incumbent POTUS not running for re-election (unheard of), but possibly interfered in election by telling CIA to take out RFK who had incriminating information on Johnson's crimes and had just become the presumptive Dem nominee (CIA hit allegedly). 2024 Democratic Party National Convention may be rhyme or repeat of 1968 (and it is in the same location, Chicago).
as much as I don't think.. DJT will become speaker of the house, I want it to happen more than anything. i want to see liberal hive mind heads explode in synchrony
This supposes that republicans can maintain the house majority. We are dangerously close to losing the house before elections. Then it takes just 1 or 2 Republicans to not vote for his for speaker.
Correct. Watch closely. Unlikely that Dems will publicly vote for DJT for Speaker of House, and unclear if Republicans could get it back if they lose it without additional Dems being put into submission (which we just saw today with another Dem departure). Slow motion move/countermove playing out in the House right now to control the numbers, imo.
If they were controllable why have them resign? Do you think Fred Upton is a reliable R vote? I'd rather have a controlled Democrat that will vote the way I need them to vote if an important vote comes up than a +1 advantage on paper with a backstabbing traitor like Fred Upton able to fuck us.
Unfortunately, the house will most likely be under dem control before anything like this could happen. What, with all the Rinos resigning.
And another Dem departure today to "even the score". Are Dems being put into submission to maintain numbers as countermove to Republicans resigning? How many positions are going to be vacant by election at this rate? /s
If they were under control why would you need them to resign? It would be far better to keep them in to vote the way you need the vote to go as a counterbalance to the people you don't control. That goes for both Republicans and Democrats resigning.
I'm not convinced that everyone is under direct control. It looks to me like "control the chessboard" and "take control or cut the puppet strings" as needed. And many puppets may not know who is actually controlling them. Maybe they just get orders and/or threats indirectly, and do what they are told? [SPECULATION].
So re-read what you said, if that were true how were they made to resign? If you can deliver the message to resign and have it acted on you can deliver the message to vote no on bill whatever too.
Unknown exactly. I suspect sealed indictments are being used as leverage. We might actually see lots of people voting "out of character" or "against Party instructions" at the right time, but at that point everyone will know something is going on behind the scenes (which is currently still publicly a "conspiracy theory" and being used as cover for a while yet, apparently).
The DOJ is a leaky sieve. There is no way mass indictments against Congress are occurring without Team Cabal knowing about it.
There appear to be 2 parts of DOJ/FBI. Durham investigation had zero leaks. Team Cabal may know about indictments, but not know 100% of the details because they are sealed.
So should “pressured Reps” go public in MSM (Main Stream Media) and say they are being blackmailed and coerced via lawfare and selective prosecution into resigning? Good counterstrategy, imo, but they are NOT for some reason, probably due to the egregious nature of their crimes (child rape or murder?).
Plus, MSM executives are likely all implicated, and any investigation or discussion uncovers more turds like media ties to Epstein, Hollywood, CIA, Mossad, and MI-6 honeypot operations. So MSM completely silent on it all.
They are not totally under control, it's more like the WH can force them to resign because of what they have on them. Don't forget that any black hat that votes white get's Clintoned.
Sorry, that seems like an awfully convenient explanation. When you get involved with the bad elements you don't get to walk away on your own terms, you get to walk away when they don't need you anymore. If they'll kill you for voting against their interests why do you think they wouldn't kill you for trying to walk away?
You have a good point. idk exactly how they do it, maybe wh gives them protection in exchange for going mute but we know that this seems to be the way it goes if they go.
Honest question:
Do you guys really think that President Trump would be elected as SOH right now? Especially when he's the Republican candidate for President? I'm pretty sure he's not going to have time to be SOH and do all the campaigning for President. Remember less than 6 months ago when McCarthy was getting pulled, and people were all overly excited that Trump would be the next SOH? If it didn't go through then, why would it happen now, when the Presidential election is about 7 months away? What sense does that make?
Sometimes I wonder how sincere some people are about their beliefs, or if they're just bored and want to play "what if?".
It only happens if VP gets removed. If that does not happen, this countermove yields little benefit in terms of holding Biden in place. Enemy-move dependent countermove only at this time, imo.
She got the hot-sauce so you know she good to go...
... never forget the Snuke.
Why would maximum panic amongst a group of people who we know kill threats and are fine sacrificing innocent people if it advances their interests be a good thing exactly?
Maybe to flush out hidden operators or sleepers, or to force a tactical mistake by enemy operators who do not have full knowledge of the situation? Big rats are cornered, know it, and are dangerous, but easy to predict and counter. Little rats are cornered, but don't know it, and might be unknown and unpredictable.
Set a "fake public narrative" condition that automatically "greenlights" the little rats into action, and they expose themselves without even knowing they were under surveillance?
I think the [DS] knows, or is at least under the current assumption that PDJT is in fact CiC, so [they]'re tossing the low hanging fruit like this "idea" of DJT's possible SoH selection at certain pols in a very long shot attempt at being able to eventually thwart him in this manner. In other words, PDJT is forcing [them] to expend ammo by openly throwing to [their] followers and potentials any and all ideas in the vain hopes that one of them will stick, because [they] 100% know that Trump/MAGA is coming for [them]...and Hell's coming with him.
Trump isn't stupid enough to fall for it, so this isn't an overly plausible or likely scenario for PDJT to find his way back to the White House.
Yes. Possible feint to draw out more Deep State operators. There are Deep State "controllers" that know the Devolution/COG situation, but they cannot tell the lower level operators because they need them to be "blind operators" and unquestioningly obedient. Their control pyramid is being used against them, especially when a high level cabal player gets replaced, but doesn't say "STOP" to the lower level operators who continue to commit crimes.
My take on this is that there actually is a tactical reason and time for Trump to make this move and the continued opportunities where he could actually make that move are being "played up" publicly AND intentionally to keep the enemy off balance and make them think "it is just talk". It may be, but this is how you soften up your enemy in order to spring a surprise on them at the right time (per Sun Tzu, Art of War). Enemy moves may force this countermove at the appropriate time.
Wouldn't that be a little... Ya know...
ON THE NOSE?