I’m learning Israel is controlled by the one Satanic Tribe of Israel aka the Khazarian Mafia and they rule the world. Bibi is big time KM trouble. The other 6 Godly tribes of biblical Israel dispersed to Europe and other parts of the world.
Was Hamas was created by Mossad to carry out their
Diabolical Plan against us goyim.
Jesus told us this .
But so many Christians don't see it .
And , notice how Jesus never referred to God as "Yaweh " the jew "God"
He almost always calls him Father .
And he point blank tells the Jews they worship Satan .
Which means Yaweh is Satan.
But no Christians grasp this .
Even though it's right there in the Bible .
Part of Jesus plan was to destroy man- made religious, establishment control.
And he did.
But as soon as he left the scene Peter built it all back.
Jesus simple message is Love your Father in heaven with all your heart & soul.
And love others as you do him.
That's it .
You can take all man-made religion, all the churches , pastors , priests, theory, hermometics and traditions.
And weigh them all , combined against those two sentences of Jesus.
Which weighs more ?
With all the man- made gobbledygook, you might get some wisdom & enlightenment .
But it won't save your soul or help you draw close to our Father, necessarily .
But you can throw that all away and those two sentences will deliver you , into his arms and lead you on the path home.
In Luke 10:27, the lawyer’s answer to Jesus quotes Deuteronomy 6:5 and uses kyrion where the Hebrew has YHWH.
John 8:58 Jesus gives one of many “I am” statements that mirror God’s revealing of his name to Moses at the burning bush in Exodus 3. The link to Exodus 3 and the meaning of YHWH is seen in the Greek verb in the present tense which is visible in English translations. “Before Abraham was, I am.” Normal language would expect an imperfect tense, “Before Abraham was, I was.” It is one of multiple ways Jesus identifies himself with YHWH by using the language of the Old Testament.
But he calls him Father like a million times & prays to him and gives him credit. And then calls Yaweh Satan?
How can you discount that?
I see the references to the scriptures as him trying to relate to the jews in a way they can understand. And , of course Jesus being a Jew and knowing the scriptures , it would be an obvious tool for him to be persuasive to them .
But other than that, the rest of his words and actions , were of course considered to be radical & heretical . Which they were back then.
But , his true message to the ages and the goy , demphasisis everything old and looks to the New
Do you dispute he came to " tear down the temple and rebuild it anew "
And that his body was the temple ?
What's that mean too you ?
Thanks for your post.
On the references to father, the same section in John 8 speaks to it.
John 8:39–42 (ESV): They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.
There’s a lot going on here so here’s how I parse the speaking and the claims.
The Jews claimed Abraham was their father in the sense of being their ancestor.
Jesus claimed to have heard the truth “from God” (theos)
Jesus said to the Jews, “You are doing the works your father did.” The language here isn’t specific as to who this “father” refers to, but the prior statement in context has Jesus telling them that they were not doing the works of Abraham, though they claimed him as their father.
The Jews said, “We have one Father— even God.” (theos)
Jesus said to them, “If God [theos] were your father, you would love me, for I came from God [theos] and I am here.”
The last two points there have the overlap in language. The Jews claim that they have one Father God [theos] following from their believes rooted in the shema (Deut 6:4; c.f. Isaiah 63:16; 64:8). Jesus then turns that around saying that if they were true to their claim of loving their father God, then they would love him because he came from God, the same God the Jews claimed was their father.
So the prior claim in this comment thread was that Jesus’ statement in (John 8:44) equates Yahweh with the devil (Satan). I don’t see how that is coherent with the passage because of John 8:41-42. That reading requires that both the Jews and Jesus are using the Greek word theos but are referring to two different entities. I don’t see anything in the passage making that distinction.
Do you dispute he came to " tear down the temple and rebuild it anew " And that his body was the temple ? What's that mean too you ?
The original statement from Jesus is in John 2:19
John 2:19-22 (ESV): Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?” But he was speaking about the temple of his body. When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.
The other forms like, “I will destroy this temple…” come from the false witnesses at the trial before the crucifixion in Matthew 26:61; 27:20; Mark 14:58; 15:29. It’s worth noting here in John 2 that, in addition to the Jews not understanding what Jesus meant, the disciples also did not immediately understand what Jesus meant.
What does that mean to me? I take the view of John 2:21-22 that the temple Jesus was referring was his body and that, though destroyed, it would be raised up. He was speaking of the coming crucifixion and resurrection as he did other times in the gospels.
What if the Old Testament as we know it today has been manipulated to misdirect modern day Christians and Jews?
That's an interesting thought, but the idea that the Old Testament has been manipulated to misdirect modern Christians and Jews is not widely supported by scholars. The Jewish rejection of Jesus as the Messiah is based on theological differences and interpretations of scripture, rather than deliberate manipulation of the text.
It's important to recognize that the Old Testament was established as a sacred text long before Jesus' birth. The Hebrew Bible was already well-established and widely respected within Jewish communities by the time of Jesus. The preservation of the Hebrew Bible has been a meticulous process among Jewish scribes and scholars, with strict measures in place to ensure accurate copying and transmission of the text.
While variations exist among ancient manuscripts, the core teachings and narratives of the Old Testament remain consistent across different versions and translations. So, while it's natural to question and explore the complexities of religious texts and interpretations, the idea of a deliberate manipulation to misdirect regarding Jesus requires substantial evidence and scholarly consensus, which is currently lacking.
Super-long honest answer, and I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but you're venturing into rabbit holes I often dwell in.
(TLDR: Well sure there's something going on! 2,000 years of human history.)
While it was certainly a rocky start, between the period of Jesus' death and the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the Pharisees and the Messianic Jews worshipped together in the same Temple, read the scriptures together, prayed together, kept Torah/the Law, etc... The "jews" and the "christians" were still essentially just two denominations of the same religion; one who believed Yeshua/Jesus was the Messiah and the other did not.
At the time of the Roman siege of Jerusalem, the Pharisees rallied around a military leader and declared HIM to be the messiah (I forget and could look this dude's name up, but I don't care to).
This, of course, wasn't accepted by the Messianic Jews, who already knew who the true Messiah was, so they instead followed the words of Yeshua who had essentially prophesied that when they see armies surrounding Jerusalem, they should flee to the hills. Over time afterwards, they basically dispersed into the surrounding gentile nations and into the various Christian communities already started by Paul and other evangelists.
And thus the split between "Jew and Christian" was complete. Jerusalem was decimated by the Romans. The surviving Phariseeical Jews at the time never forgave the Messianics whom they saw as traitors and cowards, and they set out in the aftermath to build a completely NEW religious system (because their old system was all built around priests and sacrifices at the Temple, which was utterly laid to waste now).
Thus, the Pharisees turned to the Talmud, full of its Babylonian mysticism, as well as their own commentaries on the Scriptures. This is how they are, to this day, able to teach from the TALMUD and their own writings, rather than the ACTUAL BIBLE, and they are able to pick-and-choose, and add-to and take-away from scripture, etc... And so, what we today call "Rabbinical Judaism" was born.
And so, today, you can be raised Jewish, and spend your life in religious studies, and yet still never have stumbled across the Messianic prophecies that more blatantly point to Jesus such as, say, Micah 5:2 or Isiah 7:14.
This really isn't necessarily to bash just the Jews. Because as for Christendom, the Roman Catholic church eventually proceeded to conquer the entire idea of being a follower of Christ, and then it set out to hide or burn all translations of the Bible that weren't in Latin, and ensured that only their Priests were capable of reading the Bible for the next 1500 years or so. Then to top it off, they declared the Pope to be ruler in Christ's absence, and thus positioned their own Priesthood as higher authorities than the scripture... Until, of course, the Protestant Reformation happened and the Bible began to be translated into European languages around the 1600s.
As for corrupted Bible translations.... I am sad to say that, yeah, there has been a ton of manipulation, in both the Old and New Testament, over the years. I personally prefer the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament that Paul the Apostle himself used) and I keep it handy when reading the Bible, because there are all sorts of hidden jewels that are lost in translation.
And even today, new discoveries in this field are taking place. Right now, for instance, scholars are only re-discovering that much of the New Testament was actually originally written in Hebrew (a very contentious and debated subject right now, but doesn't it make sense that the Jewish disciples of Jesus would have written in Hebrew? Especially something like "the Book of Hebrews"?)
Anyways, thankfully, I've found that the vast majority of theology and over-all narrative of the Bible doesn't seem that different when comparing the different translations. Maybe if you're having an inter-denominational debate on specific Christian dogma or something, but whether I'm reading the Greek Septuagint or the King James version, they both point to Jesus as the Messiah.
And , notice how Jesus never referred to God as "Yaweh " the jew "God"
Matthew 4:7 (quoting Deuteronomy 6:16): Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” In the original Hebrew of Deuteronomy 6:16, "Lord" is the translation of "Yahweh."
Matthew 22:37-38: And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment.” Here, "Lord" again translates "Yahweh" from the original text (Deuteronomy 6:5).
Matthew 27:46: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” In this passage, Jesus uses the Aramaic term "Eli," which is akin to the Hebrew "Eli," both meaning "my God."
And he point blank tells the Jews they worship Satan . Which means Yaweh is Satan. But no Christians grasp this . Even though it's right there in the Bible
Jesus' criticism was directed at certain religious leaders of his time, not at all Jews or the Jewish faith as a whole. He was challenging the hypocrisy and corruption he saw in the religious authorities, but his message was not an indictment of Judaism or its core beliefs.
Your comments seem to reflect a Gnostic-like view, particularly in the interpretation of Yahweh as a negative figure. Gnosticism often portrays the God of the Old Testament as a lesser or even malevolent deity, distinct from the true, higher God of the New Testament.
it goes much deeper, Kazarian's are not a tribe of Israel, they are jew in name only, they migrated to that area, and they adopted Judaism and took over, it is why Kazarian's are called the name steelers, they are from Poland, Ukraine and other surrounding areas,
I’m learning Israel is controlled by the one Satanic Tribe of Israel aka the Khazarian Mafia and they rule the world. Bibi is big time KM trouble. The other 6 Godly tribes of biblical Israel dispersed to Europe and other parts of the world. Was Hamas was created by Mossad to carry out their Diabolical Plan against us goyim.
Jesus told us this . But so many Christians don't see it . And , notice how Jesus never referred to God as "Yaweh " the jew "God" He almost always calls him Father . And he point blank tells the Jews they worship Satan . Which means Yaweh is Satan. But no Christians grasp this . Even though it's right there in the Bible . Part of Jesus plan was to destroy man- made religious, establishment control. And he did. But as soon as he left the scene Peter built it all back. Jesus simple message is Love your Father in heaven with all your heart & soul. And love others as you do him. That's it . You can take all man-made religion, all the churches , pastors , priests, theory, hermometics and traditions. And weigh them all , combined against those two sentences of Jesus. Which weighs more ? With all the man- made gobbledygook, you might get some wisdom & enlightenment . But it won't save your soul or help you draw close to our Father, necessarily . But you can throw that all away and those two sentences will deliver you , into his arms and lead you on the path home.
In Luke 10:27, the lawyer’s answer to Jesus quotes Deuteronomy 6:5 and uses kyrion where the Hebrew has YHWH.
John 8:58 Jesus gives one of many “I am” statements that mirror God’s revealing of his name to Moses at the burning bush in Exodus 3. The link to Exodus 3 and the meaning of YHWH is seen in the Greek verb in the present tense which is visible in English translations. “Before Abraham was, I am.” Normal language would expect an imperfect tense, “Before Abraham was, I was.” It is one of multiple ways Jesus identifies himself with YHWH by using the language of the Old Testament.
But he calls him Father like a million times & prays to him and gives him credit. And then calls Yaweh Satan? How can you discount that?
I see the references to the scriptures as him trying to relate to the jews in a way they can understand. And , of course Jesus being a Jew and knowing the scriptures , it would be an obvious tool for him to be persuasive to them . But other than that, the rest of his words and actions , were of course considered to be radical & heretical . Which they were back then. But , his true message to the ages and the goy , demphasisis everything old and looks to the New Do you dispute he came to " tear down the temple and rebuild it anew " And that his body was the temple ? What's that mean too you ? Thanks for your post.
On the references to father, the same section in John 8 speaks to it.
There’s a lot going on here so here’s how I parse the speaking and the claims.
The last two points there have the overlap in language. The Jews claim that they have one Father God [theos] following from their believes rooted in the shema (Deut 6:4; c.f. Isaiah 63:16; 64:8). Jesus then turns that around saying that if they were true to their claim of loving their father God, then they would love him because he came from God, the same God the Jews claimed was their father.
So the prior claim in this comment thread was that Jesus’ statement in (John 8:44) equates Yahweh with the devil (Satan). I don’t see how that is coherent with the passage because of John 8:41-42. That reading requires that both the Jews and Jesus are using the Greek word theos but are referring to two different entities. I don’t see anything in the passage making that distinction.
The original statement from Jesus is in John 2:19
The other forms like, “I will destroy this temple…” come from the false witnesses at the trial before the crucifixion in Matthew 26:61; 27:20; Mark 14:58; 15:29. It’s worth noting here in John 2 that, in addition to the Jews not understanding what Jesus meant, the disciples also did not immediately understand what Jesus meant.
What does that mean to me? I take the view of John 2:21-22 that the temple Jesus was referring was his body and that, though destroyed, it would be raised up. He was speaking of the coming crucifixion and resurrection as he did other times in the gospels.
Honest question, not trying to start a firestorm:
What if the Old Testament as we know it today has been manipulated to misdirect modern day Christians and Jews?
I never understood why Jews refuse to acknowledge Jesus's world-changing existence. There must be something else going on.
That's an interesting thought, but the idea that the Old Testament has been manipulated to misdirect modern Christians and Jews is not widely supported by scholars. The Jewish rejection of Jesus as the Messiah is based on theological differences and interpretations of scripture, rather than deliberate manipulation of the text.
It's important to recognize that the Old Testament was established as a sacred text long before Jesus' birth. The Hebrew Bible was already well-established and widely respected within Jewish communities by the time of Jesus. The preservation of the Hebrew Bible has been a meticulous process among Jewish scribes and scholars, with strict measures in place to ensure accurate copying and transmission of the text.
While variations exist among ancient manuscripts, the core teachings and narratives of the Old Testament remain consistent across different versions and translations. So, while it's natural to question and explore the complexities of religious texts and interpretations, the idea of a deliberate manipulation to misdirect regarding Jesus requires substantial evidence and scholarly consensus, which is currently lacking.
Super-long honest answer, and I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but you're venturing into rabbit holes I often dwell in.
(TLDR: Well sure there's something going on! 2,000 years of human history.)
While it was certainly a rocky start, between the period of Jesus' death and the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the Pharisees and the Messianic Jews worshipped together in the same Temple, read the scriptures together, prayed together, kept Torah/the Law, etc... The "jews" and the "christians" were still essentially just two denominations of the same religion; one who believed Yeshua/Jesus was the Messiah and the other did not.
At the time of the Roman siege of Jerusalem, the Pharisees rallied around a military leader and declared HIM to be the messiah (I forget and could look this dude's name up, but I don't care to).
This, of course, wasn't accepted by the Messianic Jews, who already knew who the true Messiah was, so they instead followed the words of Yeshua who had essentially prophesied that when they see armies surrounding Jerusalem, they should flee to the hills. Over time afterwards, they basically dispersed into the surrounding gentile nations and into the various Christian communities already started by Paul and other evangelists.
And thus the split between "Jew and Christian" was complete. Jerusalem was decimated by the Romans. The surviving Phariseeical Jews at the time never forgave the Messianics whom they saw as traitors and cowards, and they set out in the aftermath to build a completely NEW religious system (because their old system was all built around priests and sacrifices at the Temple, which was utterly laid to waste now).
Thus, the Pharisees turned to the Talmud, full of its Babylonian mysticism, as well as their own commentaries on the Scriptures. This is how they are, to this day, able to teach from the TALMUD and their own writings, rather than the ACTUAL BIBLE, and they are able to pick-and-choose, and add-to and take-away from scripture, etc... And so, what we today call "Rabbinical Judaism" was born.
And so, today, you can be raised Jewish, and spend your life in religious studies, and yet still never have stumbled across the Messianic prophecies that more blatantly point to Jesus such as, say, Micah 5:2 or Isiah 7:14.
This really isn't necessarily to bash just the Jews. Because as for Christendom, the Roman Catholic church eventually proceeded to conquer the entire idea of being a follower of Christ, and then it set out to hide or burn all translations of the Bible that weren't in Latin, and ensured that only their Priests were capable of reading the Bible for the next 1500 years or so. Then to top it off, they declared the Pope to be ruler in Christ's absence, and thus positioned their own Priesthood as higher authorities than the scripture... Until, of course, the Protestant Reformation happened and the Bible began to be translated into European languages around the 1600s.
As for corrupted Bible translations.... I am sad to say that, yeah, there has been a ton of manipulation, in both the Old and New Testament, over the years. I personally prefer the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament that Paul the Apostle himself used) and I keep it handy when reading the Bible, because there are all sorts of hidden jewels that are lost in translation.
And even today, new discoveries in this field are taking place. Right now, for instance, scholars are only re-discovering that much of the New Testament was actually originally written in Hebrew (a very contentious and debated subject right now, but doesn't it make sense that the Jewish disciples of Jesus would have written in Hebrew? Especially something like "the Book of Hebrews"?)
Anyways, thankfully, I've found that the vast majority of theology and over-all narrative of the Bible doesn't seem that different when comparing the different translations. Maybe if you're having an inter-denominational debate on specific Christian dogma or something, but whether I'm reading the Greek Septuagint or the King James version, they both point to Jesus as the Messiah.
This!! ^^^
Matthew 4:7 (quoting Deuteronomy 6:16): Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” In the original Hebrew of Deuteronomy 6:16, "Lord" is the translation of "Yahweh."
Matthew 22:37-38: And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment.” Here, "Lord" again translates "Yahweh" from the original text (Deuteronomy 6:5).
Matthew 27:46: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” In this passage, Jesus uses the Aramaic term "Eli," which is akin to the Hebrew "Eli," both meaning "my God."
Jesus' criticism was directed at certain religious leaders of his time, not at all Jews or the Jewish faith as a whole. He was challenging the hypocrisy and corruption he saw in the religious authorities, but his message was not an indictment of Judaism or its core beliefs.
Your comments seem to reflect a Gnostic-like view, particularly in the interpretation of Yahweh as a negative figure. Gnosticism often portrays the God of the Old Testament as a lesser or even malevolent deity, distinct from the true, higher God of the New Testament.
The Jewsuits. I honestly can't tell whose worse or faggier ? They are all demonic goblins
it goes much deeper, Kazarian's are not a tribe of Israel, they are jew in name only, they migrated to that area, and they adopted Judaism and took over, it is why Kazarian's are called the name steelers, they are from Poland, Ukraine and other surrounding areas,
https://www.youtube.com/@818encino/videos see some good videos on the subject