These weren't prisons, this were county jails for both convicted AND unconvicted individuals. (Aka INNOCENT)
Many of the people there were in for victimless crimes.
The conditions were inhumane. I was there.... for having a couple of grams of weed back before it was legalized. I didn't deserve to be in a tent that got up to 140° in the summer.
If it's rapists, murderers, pedos, and violent criminals, cool. Fuck em.
But that was NOT rehabilitation in the slightest for people convicted victimless crimes like weed possession and being locked in there with violent offenders.
I saw some 22-year-old college kid in for a driving on suspended license get beaten to death by a Mexican gang in there among other things.
Just be clear I am very liberal with the death penalty. I believe in capital punishment for murder, rape, kidnapping, and even false accusations for any of those three crimes. But incarcerating decent people for victimless crimes is evil.
Punishment for what? Who was the victim? Seriously? Who did that 2 grams of dirt weed in a 20 year old kids pants hurt? A kid that was otherwise responsible and worked a good job, payed bills, and didn't cause trouble.
I have since become a Christian and have been sober 12+ years and I feel even more strongly against that type of incarceration than before.
It's unjust, unbiblical, immoral, increases crime by putting innocent kids in with hardened criminals where they are easily influenced, and it costs taxpayers $40k a year.
It would be cheaper and more effective to send someone to trade school with drug testing or rehab for more serious drugs.
Honesty smoking weed, just like drinking alcohol is like you said, my business. The government doesn't need to be a part of it unless a real crime is committed because of it. Prohibition doesn't work. Incarceration for substance abuse doesn't work.
The US leads the planet in countries with the most prisoners (https://www.statista.com/statistics/262961/countries-with-the-most-prisoners/) and incarceration rate (https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/appendix_countries_2021.html). Right now we seem to have issues with the corrupt people at the top NOT getting incarcerated, and we can't find a sheriff that wants to put them in jail and a prosecutor & justice system that isn't corrupted as well. I stand with sheriff Joe.
Focus on helping us with cleanup. Some of us have lost a loved one due to the "justice system" arresting them for a "weed" issue, glad you had a chance to get through your ordeal.
The US leads the planet in countries with the most prisoners
With great FREEDOM comes great RESPONSIBILITY.
Even with Americas restricted Freedom , promoted by the diminishment of responsibility , we can and are bringing back equality under the law. You should thank the Alcohol industry for the "weed" issue , but crime & enforcement are unpleasant at best even for crimes you disagree with.
Assuming u/datasinc is accurate; do you actually support punishing innocent people?
Just because you get arrested or otherwise end up in prison FOR A SHORT TIME - BEFORE being actually convicted / tried - you support people like that getting punished?
Well damn..... I absolutely agree; innocent until proven guilty, and people being held until their trial / conviction absolutely do NOT deserve conditions like that.
My bad; I obviously misunderstood.
I agree; drug use / possession definitely doesn't deserve hard jail time - assuming it's purely personal & recreational; not a junkie addict who steals often to support their habit, and damn sure not some cartel nor gang member....
These weren't prisons, this were county jails for both convicted AND unconvicted individuals. (Aka INNOCENT)
Many of the people there were in for victimless crimes.
The conditions were inhumane. I was there.... for having a couple of grams of weed back before it was legalized. I didn't deserve to be in a tent that got up to 140° in the summer.
If it's rapists, murderers, pedos, and violent criminals, cool. Fuck em.
But that was NOT rehabilitation in the slightest for people convicted victimless crimes like weed possession and being locked in there with violent offenders.
I saw some 22-year-old college kid in for a driving on suspended license get beaten to death by a Mexican gang in there among other things.
Just be clear I am very liberal with the death penalty. I believe in capital punishment for murder, rape, kidnapping, and even false accusations for any of those three crimes. But incarcerating decent people for victimless crimes is evil.
But it was punishment and that is the important part. Your need to get right with yourself and god is YOUR Business.
Punishment for what? Who was the victim? Seriously? Who did that 2 grams of dirt weed in a 20 year old kids pants hurt? A kid that was otherwise responsible and worked a good job, payed bills, and didn't cause trouble.
I have since become a Christian and have been sober 12+ years and I feel even more strongly against that type of incarceration than before.
It's unjust, unbiblical, immoral, increases crime by putting innocent kids in with hardened criminals where they are easily influenced, and it costs taxpayers $40k a year.
It would be cheaper and more effective to send someone to trade school with drug testing or rehab for more serious drugs.
Honesty smoking weed, just like drinking alcohol is like you said, my business. The government doesn't need to be a part of it unless a real crime is committed because of it. Prohibition doesn't work. Incarceration for substance abuse doesn't work.
The US leads the planet in countries with the most prisoners (https://www.statista.com/statistics/262961/countries-with-the-most-prisoners/) and incarceration rate (https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/appendix_countries_2021.html). Right now we seem to have issues with the corrupt people at the top NOT getting incarcerated, and we can't find a sheriff that wants to put them in jail and a prosecutor & justice system that isn't corrupted as well. I stand with sheriff Joe. Focus on helping us with cleanup. Some of us have lost a loved one due to the "justice system" arresting them for a "weed" issue, glad you had a chance to get through your ordeal.
With great FREEDOM comes great RESPONSIBILITY.
Even with Americas restricted Freedom , promoted by the diminishment of responsibility , we can and are bringing back equality under the law. You should thank the Alcohol industry for the "weed" issue , but crime & enforcement are unpleasant at best even for crimes you disagree with.
Assuming u/datasinc is accurate; do you actually support punishing innocent people?
Just because you get arrested or otherwise end up in prison FOR A SHORT TIME - BEFORE being actually convicted / tried - you support people like that getting punished?
Only for flight risks or potential for violence . Unless you are a J6 er
Well damn..... I absolutely agree; innocent until proven guilty, and people being held until their trial / conviction absolutely do NOT deserve conditions like that.
My bad; I obviously misunderstood.
I agree; drug use / possession definitely doesn't deserve hard jail time - assuming it's purely personal & recreational; not a junkie addict who steals often to support their habit, and damn sure not some cartel nor gang member....
Theft is entirely its own crime and should be punished. Gang violence as well.