This was originally just a comment on another post, and because I will never doxx here, I am reaching out in order to do my own research.
Is there any way to find out if a (regular, not famous) person is a mason?
I'm having so much trouble at work. I work at the church where I am a member.
The Pastor came here 1-1/2 years ago and single-handedly changed the structure of the organization so that only he is in control.
I began work 3 months ago as the finance secretary, but almost immediately regretted taking the job. I am the only employee other than the Pastor. I have seen very questionable unethical things, but no concrete proof of illegal actions. Still, I have reported my concerns to others on the finance committee, personnel committee and the deacons but nothing happened. (They are all the same 4 people: the pastor late 60's, 1 women in her 80s and 2 men in their late 70s)
The Pastor is constantly gaslighting me, then buys me lunch or a donut, then talks down to me.
My father (said he) was a 33rd degree Mason - father did the same things to me. This Pastor treats me the same way my father did - back and forth from treating me so badly - then tells me I'm a compassionate, intuitive, and hard-worker.
I am not allowed to talk to anyone except him when I am offended by things like the pornography Group that the church's facebook page joined. I "unjoined" it and it got "rejoined"
I took sick leave because I was covered in hives from nerves. I advised him I was getting an attorney and He texted me "So much for loving your church, and loving the Lord. So sad."
I am 61 years old - now the old terrible dreams from my childhood molestation have returned. I have reported my concerns to the national conference, the state conference and the local bank. I have removed myself to administrative leave and just got a letter asking for my resignation.
I am devastated I wet the bed almost every night. I HAVE located a christian counselor and I am on the 3rd read through Chuck Degroate's "When Narcisism Comes To Church"
This here - GAW - is my only "go to" when I need input and quickly. I don't necessarily need anything other than research. I have good resources in the emotional arena. and today I will tender my involuntary resignation.
I have to find out if this man is a mason. He is too wealthy otherwise. Pastors are never this wealthy (millions)
Leave this church IMMEDIATELY - go elsewhere. Does not matter if he is a mason or not - this is no way for a pastor to act and it is certainly no way to conduct the affairs of a church.
My advice - LEAVE now. Find a KJV bible believing fundamental (Baptist) church - interview the Pastor and the Deacons. Find a loving and simple church. Most of these prosperity-type pastors end up being something that is very unwholesome and worldly. When the Holy Spirit is troubled inside of you, that is the Lord telling you things are not right here.
I will pray for you and that the Lord will direct your path - He cares about this, He loves you and wants to reward your faithfulness - please listen to Him. God bless you.
Sound advice given. I agree. The Holy Spirit has troubled your spirit. Listen to Him and leave that current church immediately. It’s sad but it’s very hard to find a good church anymore. My family and I just left ours because of other questionable behavior. It’s not a fun thing but it is necessary. Whether that pastor is a mason or not is not very important. The important thing is that the Holy Spirit has pointed out and made obvious to you that the Holy Spirit is not leading this pastor. This makes the pastor an impostor and extremely dangerous. I’ll pray for you in finding a good church that teaches God’s word.
As the late Walter Martin would say, "Don't walk, RUN to the nearest exit!" https://waltermartin.com/cults.html
PLEASE hear me on this. FORGET about him and mason,s etc for now. YOU need help as a consequence of your exposure. 1 LEAVE the church 2 LOVE yourself 3 LET GOD through prayer lead others to you who can help rebuild you.
There is no official way to find out if someone is mason unless you are well versed in their handshakes and symbolisms, however, your instinct is a powerful thing. Esp. sicne your father is a mason and you have experienced how he treats you, give yourself the benefit of doubt and assume he is a mason. Regardless, assume he is an ahole, and that too a very powerful ahole.
If you continue working here, your life will become more and more miserable and you will find yourself at one point being unable to leave for whatever reason, or worse.
You should make your exit plan. Dont make your unhappiness obvious. Come up with a good cover story as to why you want to leave. The best approach would be to leave without ruffling feathers. This is important, esp if he is a mason or an abuser of any kind - you dont want to become his target.
Some of the lodges have member lists accessible online, so there's that possibility.
Many like to flaunt their satanic ways with that little square and compass with the letter G inside on their cars bumper/window.
Could start there...
You'd be surprised how many of the people with that thing on their car think they're Christians. Some of the low level ones who haven't done anything too bad might genuinely be one.
But no matter what they believe in their heart, they've been at least corrupted enough to put a satanic symbol on their vehicle for the world to see.
mormons put it on their magical undergarments.
Forget the job, if your fellow congregants know about that porn page alone, that should shred their confidence in him and if it doesn't, then that church is not one at all and there's no point beating your head against a brick wall.
It's one thing for a pastor to have private issues, I can accept that possibility, but using the church's page AND re-liking it, that's just purposeful blasphemy. At BEST the guy is an idiot boomer perv who doesn't realize he's using the Church's account and leaving a paper trail, so to speak.
Why this particular phrase?
Something to do with Freemasonry?
Wandaalger.me is a woman who has a lot of freemasonry research on her site. Not the primary focus of her site, but when you find the right section you'll see it's quite a lot of material.
That said, there are plenty of evil people who are not masons: masons don't have any monopoly on evil. Also, researching evil has limited utility. I agree with other commenters that your first move is to take care of yourself by leaving. May God bless you and look after you, and take you to a better situation.
Satan has infiltrated
Sever all ties
Leave immediately
do not, I repeat do not give them two weeks notice. Walk out and say goodbye and get on with your life.
Find another church
Jesus will be there for you
Is there a masonic building in your town?? Maybe you could see who frequents that establishment and then find personal connections to your pastor.
My dad (a mason) has told me that lodges will post lists of their members. As he always likes tell me "we are an organization with secrets, but we are not a secret organization."
Is this a Methodist church? They tend to be involved with the masons and I know this from first hand experience. Also, if the pastor isn’t, lots of people in the congregation can be too. This is more of the case for small town churches
southern baptist
I guess they likely could have infiltrated that denomination then too.
Username checks out 😂😂😂
Sorry but I had to do it.
Move on
what do I check out for? against? just asking... I do the same thing sometimes... to see if someone is too new to be asking stuff or a doomer or a schill.
I get it!
Seriously. You need to move on from your position and several ties.
I have years of experience with narcissist and sociopath. Run. Run as fast as you can get as far away from those people as possible. Move on with your life. The damage they will due to you immeasurable.
Be praying for the Lord to lead you to a new church and to help you heal from this abuse. 🙏
If you have to post here to ask these questions. It means you already have your answers.
not exactly. I cannot find anything that ties this person to the masons. It would just help me settle the curiosity which will help me heal. It's a personal need.
I'll be honest. Sounds like you are not showing respect, and not understanding what he means. I'm not defending him, I don't know anything. I'm just saying, 9 times out of 10, women just don't get men. It's not your fault, but neither is it his.
It's good to understand that respect is the absolute most fundamentally necessary attribute when working with men.