Mike Johnson said we must support Israel because the Bible says "God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse israel" . Well we have been blessing Israel for 75 years now. Have we received blessings? No we have not. We have been supporting those who claim to be Jewish but are not. They are the synagogue of Satan. We are cursed wen we support the enemies of God. Christians are God's chosen people, yet where is their honor?
Mike Johnson is obviously a dispensationalist. I used to be one for over 20 years. The doctrine he adheres to was introduced to Chrisitians with the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible. This "Christian" reference Bible was bankrolled by a group of NY Jews.
And of course you are 100% correct when you ask where are the blessings upon the US. Faith in Christ, then, is what makes a person a member of the Israel of God, not mere ethnic descent. Paul confirms this elsewhere in Galatians 6:16, where he calls the Galatian church—made up predominantly of gentiles who believed in Jesus—as “the Israel of God.” The true Israel of God, then, consists of Christ and all the Jews and gentiles who believe in Him.
Dispensationalism is simply a theological framework that sees God's redemptive plan unfolding in distinct periods or "dispensations." While the formal system we know today was developed in the 19th century, some of its core ideas actually have roots in early Christian thought.
The doctrine he adheres to was introduced to Chrisitians with the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible.
The early church recognized different periods in God's plan. For example, they distinguished between the Mosaic Law and the New Covenant through Christ (Hebrews 8:6-13). Paul also spoke of "times" and "epochs" in God's plan (Acts 17:30, Ephesians 1:10), which hints at the dispensational view of different phases in redemptive history.
Early church fathers like Justin Martyr and Irenaeus expected a future, literal reign of Christ on earth. This premillennial view is a key part of dispensational eschatology.
In the first century, the church wrestled with the relationship between Jewish and Gentile believers. Paul addressed this issue often, maintaining distinct roles for Israel and the Church while affirming their unity in Christ (Romans 11, Ephesians 2:11-22). This aligns with dispensationalism's idea of distinct but interconnected roles for Israel and the Church.
This "Christian" reference Bible was bankrolled by a group of NY Jews.
This assertion is highly speculative and lacks credible historical evidence.
While dispensationalism as a formal system was popularized by the Scofield Study Bible in the 20th century, the basic concepts have been around since the early church. It's fascinating to see how early Christians already had an understanding of God's distinct phases in His redemptive plan, even if they didn't use the term "dispensationalism."
There is no "Jewish conspiracy" around the Scofield study Bible as you are insinuating.
You should move this topic to conspiracies.win to die.
This 👆👆👆. I believe that we, the true believers in Jesus, are Israel. Not the physical state of Israel. Satan is the master of illusion and this is a grand example.
Those galatians were israel in the flesh. The gentiles referred to in the epistles, Roman's, Hebrews were all the lost tribes. Israel in the flesh. I'm glad you woke up to dispensationalism and the cryus Schofield Bible. Both are products of the counter reformation.
The Bible actually does not even say that. The Bible says God said to Abraham I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you. The blessing was specifically for abraham. If it was for his descendants, then the Muslims would have received the same blessing.
Strangely enough, there is a Bible verse in the New Testament that says dear brothers and sisters of the church, God will persecute those that persecute you. It seems to be the same alleged promise from the Old Testament for israel, but in this there is no lack of clarity who the promise is for.
Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,
To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers, as is right, because your faith is growing abundantly, and the love of every one of you for one another is increasing.
Therefore we ourselves boast about you in the churches of God for your steadfastness and faith in all your persecutions and in the afflictions that you are enduring.
This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering—
since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you,
And now ask yourself: who were the persecutors here in 2 Thess 1? From Acts 17:5, 13, and from 1 Thessalonians 2:14, we learn, that the people of Thessalonica had suffered much persecution, both from the Jews and their own countrymen; but being thoroughly convinced of the truth of the Gospel, and feeling it to be the power of God unto salvation, no persecution could turn them aside from it. And having suffered for the truth, it was precious to them. Persecution never essentially injured the genuine Church of God.
"since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
King James Version (KJV)
"Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;"
New International Version (NIV)
"God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you."
New Living Translation (NLT)
"In his justice, he will pay back those who persecute you."
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
"since it is just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
"For it is indeed just of God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
The Message (MSG)
"Meanwhile, there’s relief coming for you who suffer, and also for us, when the Master Jesus appears out of Heaven in blazing beauty of angels and with the power of God, as He brings justice to those who don’t know God and to those who refuse to obey the Gospel of our Master, Jesus."
Good News Translation (GNT)
"God will do what is right: he will bring suffering on those who make you suffer,"
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
"It is only right for God to punish everyone who is causing you trouble,"
Yes Abraham had other sons besides Isaac. Ishmael comes to mind. Also Keturah was a wife and a concubine of the Biblical patriarch Abraham. According to the Book of Genesis, Abraham married Keturah after the death of his first wife, Sarah. Abraham and Keturah had six sons.
I think Galatians 3:28-29 says it all: Galatians 3:28-29 (KJV) - "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Correct he did say that to Abraham. Jewish culture of today has most believing it was said to Israel. Iike Mike Johnson. I couldn't go into it without making the post too long.
Mike Johnson said we must support Israel because the Bible says "God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse israel" . Well we have been blessing Israel for 75 years now. Have we received blessings? No we have not. We have been supporting those who claim to be Jewish but are not. They are the synagogue of Satan. We are cursed wen we support the enemies of God. Christians are God's chosen people, yet where is their honor?
Mike Johnson is obviously a dispensationalist. I used to be one for over 20 years. The doctrine he adheres to was introduced to Chrisitians with the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible. This "Christian" reference Bible was bankrolled by a group of NY Jews.
And of course you are 100% correct when you ask where are the blessings upon the US. Faith in Christ, then, is what makes a person a member of the Israel of God, not mere ethnic descent. Paul confirms this elsewhere in Galatians 6:16, where he calls the Galatian church—made up predominantly of gentiles who believed in Jesus—as “the Israel of God.” The true Israel of God, then, consists of Christ and all the Jews and gentiles who believe in Him.
Dispensationalism is simply a theological framework that sees God's redemptive plan unfolding in distinct periods or "dispensations." While the formal system we know today was developed in the 19th century, some of its core ideas actually have roots in early Christian thought.
The early church recognized different periods in God's plan. For example, they distinguished between the Mosaic Law and the New Covenant through Christ (Hebrews 8:6-13). Paul also spoke of "times" and "epochs" in God's plan (Acts 17:30, Ephesians 1:10), which hints at the dispensational view of different phases in redemptive history.
Early church fathers like Justin Martyr and Irenaeus expected a future, literal reign of Christ on earth. This premillennial view is a key part of dispensational eschatology.
In the first century, the church wrestled with the relationship between Jewish and Gentile believers. Paul addressed this issue often, maintaining distinct roles for Israel and the Church while affirming their unity in Christ (Romans 11, Ephesians 2:11-22). This aligns with dispensationalism's idea of distinct but interconnected roles for Israel and the Church.
This assertion is highly speculative and lacks credible historical evidence.
While dispensationalism as a formal system was popularized by the Scofield Study Bible in the 20th century, the basic concepts have been around since the early church. It's fascinating to see how early Christians already had an understanding of God's distinct phases in His redemptive plan, even if they didn't use the term "dispensationalism."
There is no "Jewish conspiracy" around the Scofield study Bible as you are insinuating.
You should move this topic to conspiracies.win to die.
This 👆👆👆. I believe that we, the true believers in Jesus, are Israel. Not the physical state of Israel. Satan is the master of illusion and this is a grand example.
Those galatians were israel in the flesh. The gentiles referred to in the epistles, Roman's, Hebrews were all the lost tribes. Israel in the flesh. I'm glad you woke up to dispensationalism and the cryus Schofield Bible. Both are products of the counter reformation.
The Bible actually does not even say that. The Bible says God said to Abraham I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you. The blessing was specifically for abraham. If it was for his descendants, then the Muslims would have received the same blessing.
Strangely enough, there is a Bible verse in the New Testament that says dear brothers and sisters of the church, God will persecute those that persecute you. It seems to be the same alleged promise from the Old Testament for israel, but in this there is no lack of clarity who the promise is for.
Can you give me the scripture you are referring to? Thanks
2 Thessalonians 1:1-6 (ESV)
Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,
To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers, as is right, because your faith is growing abundantly, and the love of every one of you for one another is increasing.
Therefore we ourselves boast about you in the churches of God for your steadfastness and faith in all your persecutions and in the afflictions that you are enduring.
This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering—
since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you,
Ah ok. You just put it in your own words. Copy that. 👍
And now ask yourself: who were the persecutors here in 2 Thess 1? From Acts 17:5, 13, and from 1 Thessalonians 2:14, we learn, that the people of Thessalonica had suffered much persecution, both from the Jews and their own countrymen; but being thoroughly convinced of the truth of the Gospel, and feeling it to be the power of God unto salvation, no persecution could turn them aside from it. And having suffered for the truth, it was precious to them. Persecution never essentially injured the genuine Church of God.
More translations:
2 Thessalonians 1:6
English Standard Version (ESV)
"since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
King James Version (KJV)
"Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;"
New International Version (NIV)
"God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you."
New Living Translation (NLT)
"In his justice, he will pay back those who persecute you."
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
"since it is just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
"For it is indeed just of God to repay with affliction those who afflict you,"
The Message (MSG)
"Meanwhile, there’s relief coming for you who suffer, and also for us, when the Master Jesus appears out of Heaven in blazing beauty of angels and with the power of God, as He brings justice to those who don’t know God and to those who refuse to obey the Gospel of our Master, Jesus."
Good News Translation (GNT)
"God will do what is right: he will bring suffering on those who make you suffer,"
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
"It is only right for God to punish everyone who is causing you trouble,"
Yes Abraham had other sons besides Isaac. Ishmael comes to mind. Also Keturah was a wife and a concubine of the Biblical patriarch Abraham. According to the Book of Genesis, Abraham married Keturah after the death of his first wife, Sarah. Abraham and Keturah had six sons.
I think Galatians 3:28-29 says it all: Galatians 3:28-29 (KJV) - "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Correct he did say that to Abraham. Jewish culture of today has most believing it was said to Israel. Iike Mike Johnson. I couldn't go into it without making the post too long.