I held this back for about a week because I just didn't want to post it for fear it would give them an idea if somehow they saw this. Now I decided that WHs are more likely to see it and be able to prevent it from happening. I hope my theory does not become a fact.
We all know Ukraine now has F-16s, given to them from a few various countries - and not directly from the US. Regardless of where they recently came from, they are still American planes. Russia is understandably not happy about this, and would be justified in taking some sort of action against the US or NATO. Putin is still practicing great restraint, but that would almost certainly change if certain red lines were crossed.
I struggled to understand why we would even allow Ukraine to have the jets, given their track record with other advanced weapons systems we gave them and they quickly lost due to incompetence and lack of proper training. Ukraine has to know they are likely to be shot out of the sky (or on a runway somewhere) the first time a newly "trained" pilot taxis out to take off. Ukraine also has to know they have zero chance of winning this war and are entirely over-matched, both in manpower and technology.
So why would they want these planes so much?
Consider this. Ukraine wants the US and NATO to join the war because they think that is the only way they can win. Until now, they've had no real way of getting NATO or the US engaged. Enter the F-16s...
This is where it gets bad. The only way I see NATO and the US getting involved is if Ukraine forces Putin to act. The easiest way to do that would be for a Ukrainian pilot to fly an F-16 into Russia and bomb a large city full of civilians. While NATO and the US would try to say we weren't responsible, the alliance is responsible for giving Ukraine the ability to attack much further inside of Russia than the drones they are using on single targets. I think that would bring all of our bases and all of the NATO countries into a hot war immediately - which would be WWIII.
I think this theory is entirely plausible, and may well be probable. Hopefully one of the WHs that undoubtedly lurks here sees this and is able to do something to keep it from happening.
What do you guys think?
I think Russia will blow them out of the air,if they try it.
It would be a suicide mission, but there are 3 cities in Russia with over a million people that are VERY close to Ukraine. One of them is 12 miles away, one is 25 miles away, and one is 62 miles away. There is a good chance a pilot could get close enough to hit them.
This is from Brave AI:
Belgorod (population: approximately 1.1 million) - located in the Belgorod Oblast, about 40 km (25 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
Voronezh (population: approximately 1.1 million) - located in the Voronezh Oblast, about 100 km (62 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
Kursk (population: approximately 450,000) - located in the Kursk Oblast, about 60 km (37 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
Rostov-on-Don (population: approximately 1.1 million) - located in the Rostov Oblast, about 20 km (12 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
Taganrog (population: approximately 290,000) - located in the Rostov Oblast, about 30 km (19 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
That was my first thought "Kamikaze"
They can't carry enough to do much damage.
They would piss the russians off,but not kill that many.
The 'Ghost of Kiev' will make it.
LOL...and after they kill him, his ghost can still finish the mission..
The ghost of the Ghost of Kiev? He would be unstoppable!
Exactly. 1x fresh recruit (poorly trained) Ukrainian pilot navigates his plane toward Russia.
He will encounter the Russian SAM's which will destroy him quickly. If those don't get him, then it will be Russian planes on Combat Air Patrol.
The agile fighter can only have a chance to survive with a competent pilot, and Ukraine lost all of those (assuming they had any to begin with), very early in the war.
Does Ukraine have any air fields left?
Well one of the things I've heard is Ukraine is talking about parking a couple of the jets in a NATO country. If they did that, it could give cover for a Ukrainian pilot to tell NATO he is taking the plane back to Ukraine. I don't know if they would leave fully armed, but because it would be flying into a war zone it would be prudent to have missiles in case you run into Russian jets.
I don't know - I think it would be easier to attack directly from Ukraine, but if they are intent on bringing NATO into the war then flying the mission from a NATO base would certainly do that.
There's a 4-lane highway near Kiev.
Best option they get popped right on the runway/hanger. The rest I don't really want to think about because there's few other "good" outcomes.
They have been training the pilots for months now.
I'm with you on everything else. However - we need to make it to January without these a-holes causing WWIII or poisoning the well. We will make it and get our country back. I just wonder what the cost will end up being.
Putin will squash them like a bug.
I hope so.
I’d be willing to bet there is plenty of English speaking “mercenary” pilots in Ukraine that will be operating those F-16’s. Been noticing a lot of English speaking fighters in recent footage so there’s no denying the longer it goes on the closer NATO “support” gets to the front line.
Makes me wonder how much you'd have to pay a mercenary to fly an F-16 into Russia and bomb civilians in a city.
Chances of surviving the mission = 5%. Hope the pay is worth the risk.
Oh my God, I have some pearls you should be clutching
Given that it is highly likely Ukrainian pilots shot down that airliner years ago, I would say they are capable of doing anything.
It is a criminal state.
Part 2 of this theory is wondering why the US and NATO would be for this. I think that part is very easy. The dems/DS desperately want to destroy the US as we know it, and they absolutely do not want to risk Trump getting back in office and shutting down everything they've built up. A world war would be a quick way for them to render everything else unimportant.
40,000 ft view. This is not about fighting the war. It will be over soon. It’s about replacing Russian made military equipment and its logistics with US made military equipment and its logistics. The countries that donate their aircraft get to replace them with the next generation of aircraft.
Ghost of kiev gonna get blown ta bits kek.
Only one thing brought to mind here… the F-16s are the visible aggressors. The mission if there is one to match your hypothesis is a few expertly piloted US stealth aircraft to maximize a Ukrainian pilots’ attempt. Imagine a mission started where the Ukrainian F-16s are shot down but a massive air assault continues?