To ask, if there is a creator, might be the wrong question at all.
Better ask, what is the world if there is not an observer? And who is that observer? What does he observe? And what happens, when the observer is not observing, while still alive and maybe after death? Does death exist, and if yes, what dies and what not?
This is a Johns Hopkins University Narrative Inquiry in Bioethics article published in March 2020. The article has 18 personnel stories selected for the article and mine is one of them. God is VERY real. https://nibjournal.org/voices/healthcareafternde/
My Out of Body Experience happened while departing the runway on landing at 135knots in a P3 Orion aircraft due to pilot error during an engine out emergency landing. I was the flight engineer.
The problem is finding one of something doesn't convey any meaning.
If the intent was to provide absolute proof of intelligent design in the universe, then it would require a long series of systems that possessed some quality in an unnatural sequence, like prime numbers.
Not that this particular planetary system isn't interesting, but it isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced.
There are much better ones, but I like information. Animals born with significant knowledge. Humans don’t get too much, but we know how to feed and cry when something is wrong, etc.
What about that makes you think it's because of a god? I don't see why existence itself isn't considered divine. Let me ask you something: If somehow there is very strong evidence found that there never was a beginning to existence would you stop believing in a creator? Infinite existence is...infinitely greater than a creator who made it all just the other day.
But existence is infinite, that is the only way God could exist within it. God is infinite, so He can only create infinity. Infinite size, scale, diversity, life, love, holiness.
What we call de-finite or in-finite is actually: timelessness. In Paleo-Hebrew the idea of "from eternity to eternity" is actually: from hazy Horizon to hazy horizon. There you stand, looking around, and all you see around you is the vastness of space.
Yet .... when confronting such vastness, it is the size of time we see. The key to comprehension here is timelessness.
in the article, the harmonics of the circular movement of those planets around that star, are called: orderly, as opposed to our own solar system where it is called chaotic. Typical, science is about matter, and therefor time is of the essence.
And this key, time, has always, since it's inception, been in the bible: '"I am" has sent me to you', Moses said to Pharaoh. Ponder it: "I am" = Present = Now. So, instead of the vastness of time, "I am" focuses our attention on now, the smallest fraction of time. And through that smallest fraction we can perceive our existence not as separated from what is, but an integral [wholeness] part of it,as an expression of the same source.
Such a notion of now, is also present in the Lords prayer: give us our daily bread. Paul writes: 'As long as it can be called: "present", we can enter Gods rest'.
I am not sure if the writer attributed as Paul was being facetious on purpose or not, but it is funny.
The essence is taught with the following words: love, peace, happiness. the other items in Paul's list of the fruit of the spirit/ essence/ boils down to, are merely behaviors.
From a higher abstraction, what Jesus taught and is contained within Christianity, is a crotch to lean on, while being an acolyte going through an introduction. Then a deeper cognition has to ensue.
As is written in Oera Linda Bok: 3-fold thanks is offered to the ultimate source, in this book called: Wralda [UR ALTE = old one [of days]]:
for what has been enjoyed
for what is being enjoyed
for the hope left in dark times.
This then leads to: independence, sovereignty, meaning, the choice out of a free will, is no longer dependent on the shaping of reality by the external plane, but is purely and unadulterated flowing from the inside.
The question OP: random chance or divine design, flows from the ego-ist-ic[h] [=ego = me is me, separate from all else] idea of a difference, and thus form the perception of time.
Your comprehension, or rather, your image [fractional copy; hash] of the finition of God, i.e. looking at a vastness of space and thus time, forces you to post this. It has been induced by the dependence on the external plane. Had you viewed it from the position of timelessness, your post would have been different.
How do you think you could know that? It may be that with an infinite past we could exist at any point in the sequence of events. No matter what we always find ourselves in the now.
But if you exist at a point, then the amount of time prior could not have been infinite.
There’s additional time after the point of your existence, right? Well if there is additional time AFTER the point of your existence, then the amount of time BEFORE your existence could not have been infinite.
It's funny to downvote something like that. It's like "Uuurrnnhhh, I can't answer that like a thinking person so I'm going to do the weakest, most pathetic form of lashing out at the big meanie head I can think of!"
6 planets in perfect synchronous orbit, with such a stable system that it could orbit just like that for another 2 billion years with no measurable change.
To ask, if there is a creator, might be the wrong question at all.
Better ask, what is the world if there is not an observer? And who is that observer? What does he observe? And what happens, when the observer is not observing, while still alive and maybe after death? Does death exist, and if yes, what dies and what not?
https://nibjournal.org/voices/healthcareafternde/
This is a Johns Hopkins University Narrative Inquiry in Bioethics article published in March 2020. The article has 18 personnel stories selected for the article and mine is one of them. God is VERY real. https://nibjournal.org/voices/healthcareafternde/
My Out of Body Experience happened while departing the runway on landing at 135knots in a P3 Orion aircraft due to pilot error during an engine out emergency landing. I was the flight engineer.
You'll have to do much better than that.
https://nibjournal.org/voices/healthcareafternde/
The problem is finding one of something doesn't convey any meaning.
If the intent was to provide absolute proof of intelligent design in the universe, then it would require a long series of systems that possessed some quality in an unnatural sequence, like prime numbers.
Not that this particular planetary system isn't interesting, but it isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced.
https://nibjournal.org/voices/healthcareafternde/
There are much better ones, but I like information. Animals born with significant knowledge. Humans don’t get too much, but we know how to feed and cry when something is wrong, etc.
https://nibjournal.org/voices/healthcareafternde/
What about that makes you think it's because of a god? I don't see why existence itself isn't considered divine. Let me ask you something: If somehow there is very strong evidence found that there never was a beginning to existence would you stop believing in a creator? Infinite existence is...infinitely greater than a creator who made it all just the other day.
But existence is infinite, that is the only way God could exist within it. God is infinite, so He can only create infinity. Infinite size, scale, diversity, life, love, holiness.
Nautica posed an interesting question, is it not?
What we call de-finite or in-finite is actually: timelessness. In Paleo-Hebrew the idea of "from eternity to eternity" is actually: from hazy Horizon to hazy horizon. There you stand, looking around, and all you see around you is the vastness of space.
Yet .... when confronting such vastness, it is the size of time we see. The key to comprehension here is timelessness.
in the article, the harmonics of the circular movement of those planets around that star, are called: orderly, as opposed to our own solar system where it is called chaotic. Typical, science is about matter, and therefor time is of the essence.
And this key, time, has always, since it's inception, been in the bible: '"I am" has sent me to you', Moses said to Pharaoh. Ponder it: "I am" = Present = Now. So, instead of the vastness of time, "I am" focuses our attention on now, the smallest fraction of time. And through that smallest fraction we can perceive our existence not as separated from what is, but an integral [wholeness] part of it,as an expression of the same source.
Such a notion of now, is also present in the Lords prayer: give us our daily bread. Paul writes: 'As long as it can be called: "present", we can enter Gods rest'.
I am not sure if the writer attributed as Paul was being facetious on purpose or not, but it is funny.
The essence is taught with the following words: love, peace, happiness. the other items in Paul's list of the fruit of the spirit/ essence/ boils down to, are merely behaviors.
From a higher abstraction, what Jesus taught and is contained within Christianity, is a crotch to lean on, while being an acolyte going through an introduction. Then a deeper cognition has to ensue.
As is written in Oera Linda Bok: 3-fold thanks is offered to the ultimate source, in this book called: Wralda [UR ALTE = old one [of days]]:
This then leads to: independence, sovereignty, meaning, the choice out of a free will, is no longer dependent on the shaping of reality by the external plane, but is purely and unadulterated flowing from the inside.
The question OP: random chance or divine design, flows from the ego-ist-ic[h] [=ego = me is me, separate from all else] idea of a difference, and thus form the perception of time.
Your comprehension, or rather, your image [fractional copy; hash] of the finition of God, i.e. looking at a vastness of space and thus time, forces you to post this. It has been induced by the dependence on the external plane. Had you viewed it from the position of timelessness, your post would have been different.
Nevertheless, thank you for this post.
But your book says he created the world so it does have a finite past. I am suggesting there was no creation event meaning the past is infinite.
Fun thought experiment:
If I promise to give you a $100 after an infinite amount of time has passed, would you ever get the $100?
If an infinite amount of time has passed in order for us to get to this point, how are we at this point?
This implies it is not possible for an infinite amount of time to have passed, thus the universe had a beginning.
Philosophy rather than theology, but I find it fascinating.
You forgot something, since time and space exists only in your mind, there is no infinite time.
If time and space exist only in my mind, then you only exist in my mind. 🤯
exactly.
And besides is what you are your body?
If an infinite duration of time has already passed I would get it now. Want my P.O. box number?
That’s the point - in order for it to be infinite, we could never reach this point. It would make the amount of time finite.
How do you think you could know that? It may be that with an infinite past we could exist at any point in the sequence of events. No matter what we always find ourselves in the now.
But if you exist at a point, then the amount of time prior could not have been infinite.
There’s additional time after the point of your existence, right? Well if there is additional time AFTER the point of your existence, then the amount of time BEFORE your existence could not have been infinite.
It's funny to downvote something like that. It's like "Uuurrnnhhh, I can't answer that like a thinking person so I'm going to do the weakest, most pathetic form of lashing out at the big meanie head I can think of!"
Whats special about this star system?
6 planets in perfect synchronous orbit, with such a stable system that it could orbit just like that for another 2 billion years with no measurable change.
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