Russia has warned all Russian citizens to leave Israel ASAP. Something big is coming...
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This rapture you talk about, is not something derived from the Bible but from man's fantasy. The scripture speaks nothing of a rapture and the verse which is taken out of context is Jesus talking about His second coming.
I dislike people who spout the rapture as fact. It was invented by John Nelson Darby back in the 1800s.
You know I scanned all the comments to trying to find where someone spouted about the rapture, and could not find on comment. As a matter of fact the only usage of the word "rapture" that I could find is in people that say it's man's invention.
Please point out where I am wrong.
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People are trying to say the second coming represents the rapture...
They are all talking about this comment https://greatawakening.win/p/1995LmNs3v/x/c/4ZFAkNlpyQ0 where the user specifically says rapture
Read 1 Thessalonians 4:17, it should be clear.
That is Jesus' second coming. The rapture is not merely Jesus' return which every Christian should hope for. The rapture is an idea that Christians will disappear at random times on Earth while Earth still rotates and people still live. Never taught.
This rapture you talk about, is not something derived from the Bible but from man's fantasy
worth restating
I admit I'm not much of a bible reader, I think you are correct though.
I would love to share any knowledge I have with you. I've been studying the Bible since I was in highschool and am in my late 30's. I was active duty when a preacher friend of mine gave me his entire library he had accrued since he was 16 in the 40's so I have some wonderful commentaries and subject books.
Thank you I tried church & didn't work out for me. One thing that always struck me was the belief of many that Christians would be lifted to the heavens when things turn bad. I have a hard time believing that myself.
You are correct about that. Many people like to use the imagery in Revelation which does talk about the victory that Christians have to focus on one penultimate day or days prior to the judgement as sort of proof of God's existence and His power. There will be a final day in which God destroys the world, many have quoted those passages I think they missed out on II Peter 3:10-12 though which is another. But the victory Christians have is realized now because of the blood of Christ which covers us. Jesus defeated death so that we can have confidence and comfort in this life now and hereafter. Paul in Romans 8:1 states that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, who have been baptized into His death.
So many people lack faith (Hebrews 11:1-3 for the definition of faith) and look to something tangible to prove God as if they need a continual reminder when Romans 1:20 states that from the creation of the world alone and what we see in nature proves God. But look at this excerpt from Hebrews which cements your point in polished granite.
Hebrews 11:35-40:
Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawn in two, [k]were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.
Are we to assume God forgot about these people? Why weren't they raptured? Or the thousands of Christians that died in the colosseum to lions and the sword while they chanted "He is risen." Times have been bad for Christians, times still are bad for them around the world but we all look to eternity not some faint wish to prove God is still here and watching, of course He is.
I do understand what you mean about "church" I'll tell you this...there are few that still follow the scriptures but they are out there. I pray in this great awakening that people not only wake up to the evil around us but that also all these fake, I call them "feel-good churches" fall by the wayside and people go back to the bible only.
I can already tell that you are a critical thinker and a thoughtful person. The bible is written at a 6th grade reading level, now are there some things hard to understand? Sure there are but as Peter says about Paul's writings...II Peter 3:16 - Peter says that Paul's writings are hard to understand which "untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures."
The key point there is "as they do also the rest of the Scriptures." The truth can be found out. I know many who read the bible for themselves because their family life was terrible and they needed a way out or they grew up Catholic, or baptist, or mormon etc. Anyway, I will pray for you either way brother. Sorry this was so long winded so... TLDR, you're right. lol.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
MATTHEW 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Yes and all of that is in regards to Jesus' second coming. Not people disappearing from Earth at random times.
The rapture as the secular world terms it, is not another name for Jesus coming again, what you just quoted are verses I would use to prove the rapture is a false teaching.
God the father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three in one. And they were all present at the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist! The Spirit descending on Him in the form of a dove as a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.”
Yes but this has nothing to do with either confirming or denying the rapture.
Baptism is also very important.
It's like the people who say, "The Bible doesn't ever say "trinity"", thinking that means the concept of the trinity is not valid.
Oh the concept is valid. It’s derived from the Satanists. The original trinity is Isis, Osiris and Horus. They sneaked in this satanic construct into the Christianity.
God the Father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit; the trinity of the Bible is clear!
Yes, correct, but most people miss a key word. AFTER tribulation. We will not be scooped up before it happens. We will all still have to go through the period of suffering and hardship. Then, AFTER the tribulation is over, Jesus will pick up his people to join him in the clouds as he delivers the final blow to Satan.
Why do people get pissy when I'm simply pointing out what it actually says in the Bible vs what you've been led to believe by a church? Shouldn't yall be mad at the person lying and teaching you the exact opposite of what God's word says?