I was asked to show this movie at our County GOP headquarters. I did NOT want to watch it again - I was raised in North Minneapolis. It hit close to home for me. I showed it tonight and was shocked at the number of people that showed up and had never seen it. This is a great movie to get into everyone’s mind before November 5. The Harris/Walz ticket can NOT be allowed! It is free online at thefallofminneaplis.com - it is also free on YouTube.
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That depends on what you define as “Jewish”.
Torah values are absolutely not contrary to Christian values, and are at the core of Christ’s teachings.
We have also seen how “Christian” values can be led astray. How was that done? “The Torah isn’t relevant anymore.” At that point, there is no definition of “sin”, and it is perfectly fine to accept and practice sodomy as “love”, among other failures, in the name of unlimited “grace” and “love”, even though “tolerance” is not a Christian virtue.
Talmudic values on the other hand…
Deuteronomy 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it,, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Both root and branch have added and subtracted from The Word.
That is also assuming that “the root” actually are who is claimed. There does not appear to be a single drop of righteousness in Adam Schiff, for example.
Matthew 3:9 - And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
New Testament values are grace and love.
Judaic values rest on legalism.
The whole New Testament is about the antidote to legalism, found in Jesus.
You are correct, Legalism does not lead to salvation.
Refusing to accept or receive a bribe does not get you into Heaven, that IS grace.
HOWEVER if you are accepting or receiving bribes, you ARE NOT following Jesus.
“We should not be legalistic” means that salvation does not come through following the Teachings (or “the Law” as it is often translated), but it also does not mean that the Law is done away with, and should not be followed,
John 2:22 - When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Matthew 5:17–18 - 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
“The Scripture” is the Torah (Genesis-Deuteronomy) and Tanakh (“Old Testament”). If “the Scripture” is referring to the New Testament, how is the Gospel testifying to itself, and what, in the second chapter is it advocating believing in?
John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the Tanakh. There were no prophecies presented in the New Testament by which he was identified.
2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for *reproof^, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Obey and study the Old Testament. The commandments are in the Torah, the prophecies and the histories and some examples of walking out scripture and why Israel was destroyed and how it will be restored are covered in the other books.
Hebrews 8:13 says “ By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.”
The Law is Love. This is how Jesus recast things when asked what is the greatest command.
Exhortations are not the same as Laws.
It did decay and become obsolete!
The word “covenant” does not exist in the Greek texts. It was only inserted into English translations, outright.
What appears to be being referenced as decaying and passing away is the Levitical priesthood, which did decay and pass away in obsolescence, to be replaced by our new and perfect High Priest, Yeshua! A mediator was always needed, but the time for the ultimate mediator had not come, so a temporary mediation system was provided.
“The Law is Love”
“Love God”
-> Have no other gods before Me, do not make for yourself an idol, do not misuse My Name, remember the Sabbath
-> more
“Love Your Neighbor as Yourself”
-> Honor your father and mother, do not murder/commit adultery/steal/bear false witness/covet
-> more
The “more”s are detailed in the rest of the Torah. Not everything is covered in the Torah! The new covenant actually demands more of us than the old covenant did, not less. It requires us to listen for guidance on things that were not detailed in the Torah. Yet, precept is built on precept, and the Mosaic Covenant did not pass away, lest God change.
The Bible is incrementally revealing His nature to us, not meandering about trying to figure out what is righteous.
God does not change. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. The limitations are on our side, not His.
Why is this reply getting down votes? He’s not wrong
I’d like for them to name the specific Old Testament commandments, other than the sacrificial and levitical systems, which were fulfilled and are no longer necessary, that it’s ok for us to ignore now.
The Torah is a smokescreen for normies. Just like freemasonry hides behind their community charity work. At their core they are fundamentally opposed to Christianity.
The Torah and the Prophecies were the means by which Jesus was known.
Without those, there are only the miracles, and angels can work those.
… or do you think the Greeks just hallucinated their Pantheon of gods out of pure superstition? The Norse? The Egyptians? “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled…”