So the feminism movement went off the rails pretty damn fast, but it did start from a good position, I think. When a woman is mostly dependent on the men in her life, that puts her in a very vulnerable position if there doesn't happen to be any good men for her to rely on. I had an aunt who was married to an alcoholic, and some of the stories she told me were pretty damn bad. He wasn't even a man who would become violent when he drank, but he used all their money on alcohol, to the point they had problems getting enough food, and they had 3 sons. The worst years for her were late 1940s, after the war, and 1950s.
And as far as I understand that was one of the early reasons why some women started to advocate for women to get an education and jobs of their own.
Now I think it would be good if we could get more mothers back home, but what if the husband turns out bad?
How would you solve this?
It doesnt have to be a movement like feminism to change bad behaviors - people need to get back to God. He will help us raise families into men and women who do the right thing even when it isnt easy. Without God - well, we see what happens.
You are not going to get kneejerkers to realize that "feminism" was an (((operation))) to work further dygenics on women who were staggering around because they had lost FOUR GENERATIONS of men who were the fruit of their generations.
I.e., the war drafts and wars from 1915 to the 1980s. War draft deliberately selected for healthy, strong, brave, intelligent men OF PRIME BREEDING AGE. The chads. And war draft deliberately Passovered 4Fs--sickos, crazies, homosexuals, cowards, etc.
Women didn't undergo a similar culling, but women were left to hold things together...left with a reduced and degraded and traumatized pool of mates to choose from. And without the fruit-of-their-generation young men taking the reins of power, who took the reins?
Your basic kneejerker on this topic has nothing but a bunch of slogans and bromides to offer. They do not understand the utter depravity and degree of the dysgenic war that has gone on for at least 100 years.
When the "women's march" of January 2017 happened, I was utterly horrified at what I was seeing. I knew there were a lot of walking wounded women staggering around, searching for chads who never got born because their forefathers had gotten slaughtered, but I had no idea how terribly bad it had gotten. Women demanding they not be sexually objectified...dressing up as genitals. Women demanding that the tall, blonde, blue eyed, rich, successful man who vanquished their Queen take them as effectively war trophies ("Grab this!") etc.
I grew up among strong women who worked as tradeswomen (welders, sheet metal workers, shipfitters) and also raised the kids, kept house, etc. Some had real a-holes as husbands. Some had good men. But I can tell you this (early GenX)--------they all voted against the Equal Rights Amendment, recognizing it as a deliberate effort to drive wedges between working/middle class men and women.
100% spot on analysis
Thank you.
But dear God how I wish it were wrong...............
I see this at the heart of the whole race-mixing thing as well. Women literally haunted by the ghosts of Chads never born...having to settle for less...mad in a way they cannot define/no one presents them with reflection.
Such an egregious violation of every instinct...then they are presented with the fantasy that egregious violation of whatever instincts they have left IS VIRTUE. The more they hurt themselves, the more virtuous they are.
i have seen the race mixing issue as a scam on women. First the t.v. shows from a young age show friendly, happy, cool, and loveable minority groups. In person interaction also plays out on gender lines; black males are always polite, friendly, and good natured when dealing with women... but when black male interacts with white male, it's different, and common for the most trivial encounters to be contentious, and aggression is always a possibility. White males are unsure why white females are unable to see and refuse to admit reality. Anyone who doesn't see that Hollywood and media are weaponised against humanity isn't worth fighting for.
Yes.
The thing I have found hardest to live with during my oldfag life (early GenX) is having a sense of the depths and detail the weaponized media have on how people's hearts and minds work. Not only do they know what different people's "buttons" are, they install other buttons to be able to push them later. I was trained in all that (to my surprise; it's not why I chose the field I chose), and I learned all I could and left, to try to teach others how this stuff works, and how to protect against it.
I have ranted most of my adult life on the topic of the wounding and disruption of American men...but I have a similar sad concern about American women. I think the two groups' wounds are a bit different, though all trace back to what I wrote about earlier (the genocidal demographic disruption, particularly of nearly the entire 20th century).
Those weaknesses/injuries have been very useful soil bed for the demon seeds of the media.
Every day God confronts me with my own limits as I see these walking wounded women, lashing out at the very things they most want but cannot find, and my own reaction is negative, hateful, etc. That woman shrieking at the child in the stroller...others have used that as a meme, a hateful symbol, whatever. But I also saw a female so brutally ripped from her own roots as a woman and potential mother, I had to close my eyes and restore my center. Soul murder is lucrative, and I wish that the people who are constantly bashing on about "pro life" would develop a more Christlike understanding of how it could possibly be that mothers could reject their own offspring (which of course is related to them rejecting the male that seeded the pregnancy, but that's a different topic).
Thank you, A-A.
The cheap grace and simple self-satisfaction of many a pro-lifer is every bit as offensive as the mouth-foaming liberal who thinks casual abortion has no cost for women. It's offensive to me for politicians to be campaigning on the issue. I can accept that women cannot be forced to have a lifelong connection to someone, simply because he impregnated her.
When I was 13, my church youth group brought out the posters of the aborted fetuses without consulting parents, and I felt like this is something they weren't supposed to be doing- presenting the issue in moral judgment tones, and I didn't return. I was supposed to benefit from a positive social environment but some self-appointed moral crusaders were more interested in patting themselves on the back. This was 88-89, I'm almost 50.
We see the pinnacle of culture wars, but in the long run when each state has passed a constitutional amendment promulgating abortion rights, the left will no longer have a claim to protect the Supreme Court composition, and women will no longer be so interested in being a single issue voter. When I see the blue haired angry liberal, I see someone who can't afford proper nutrition but is embarrassed to admit their parents didn't build a good foundation for their development. We've been robbed by international bankers who provide unlimited loans only to whoever will wage unlimited war. Trying to do all the things for our communities - provide safety in a time of lawlessness, health in a time of mass poisoning, education in a time of disinformation, all seems exhausting... but humanity is re-kindled by even one person who can still think clearly. One of the first posts I found on this board was parasite pill and I've since passed it on to my doctor who I learned had studied parasitology in the military. I've explained to some of my family and neighbors, and told my poorest friends that horse paste has relieved my pain and restored vigor. It's not just ivermectin, almost all the horse worming pastes have been studied as effective on aggressive untreatable cancer. We have a new lease on life, just as the world appears to be getting de-populated.
I can upthumb pretty much all this, A-A, and once again appreciate your thoughtfulness.
The way that males (impregnators) have been given a pass is an additional point of irritation for me. Telling women who are genetically driven to reproduce that they shouldn't reproduce till they find the perfect man, then presenting them with mainly a downbred pool of males whose every degenerate whim has been catered to for 70+ years...well, I guess I know what the Drafters/Loanmakers know what they're doing. At least till populations crash or wake up a bit, and they can no longer count on a pool of draftees/loan applicants.
The thing that always ticked me the most about the "cheap grace/self satisfied" "pro-lifer" was the snuff porn aspect of it. And I'd agree with you on how that got amped up in Reagan's time and just after. They strive to get people in an emotionally frothing/reactive state in reaction to they themselves desecrating what they assert to be dead human beings. Trauma based mind control.
I agree with you on the church matter. Someone told me recently that we have to remember congregations are made of people, and we're supposed to love them, imperfect as they are. I countered that that's all well and good, except that my experience was they'd cut me, and others, off randomly on points of disagreement on whatever was the issue of the moment...and that can change as rapidly and confusingly as any other social/cultural shibboleth.
I avoid relationships with people like that in general. When they aim to stand between someone and God, posing as holier than thou, it's the opposite of faith practice in my view, and more to be avoided.
Some famous minister recently got banhammered by his own church because he had or confessed to or something an adulterous relationship of some sort some years ago. I observed many people weighing in on that irl and online. It seemed like what they were all leading with wasn't Christ's Love...but the excitement of having someone to pillory/burn while declaring themselves superior (while claiming HE was the one who did that). And I wondered what the children among them were observing, and the young men and women.
Beautifully observed. There is SO MUCH acting out with this confusion, shame, and lack/loss/disenfranchised grief as its origin.
You touch on another thing: when the fabric of family and community has been shredded, people can isolate or they can try to re-make that the best they can.
Communism has this mechanism at its core. Go into a coherent society, blow it up at every level, then present the commie utopia as the replacement holding system for all those traumatized, hurt, broken, confused people.
we're halfway through hell. Everyone realizes the media has protected abusers, covered for liars, and promoted bad habits. Unfortunately everyone is broke and/ or sick; we're going to need some breakthroughs in medicine and energy, and human psychology also. When dealing with doctors, I ask for the third world solution, like horse paste and nebulized hydrogen peroxide. Third world energy I suppose would be solar hot water. The human psychology part, I feel, is the great awakening. I'm always amazed how the drafters/ loan makers have such a scientific playbook. Did centuries of mating with cousins give them an advantage, or is it just that tricks is all they can do? I have an FAA commercial drone license, FCC GMDSS radio license, and certified as water treatment and wastewater operator - i can do the technology things. I want to protect humanity, not toil for the overlords. I'm reading about scalar biology and everything I don't understand. I've also worked on cannabis farms and have 10+ years general farm background including horse care, goats, and milking a small dairy herd. I'm willing to spend long periods of time at sea.
No
Married with no children, I hate the B*tch that brunt her bra. The movement destroyed the family unit. I understand your points above which is where family and the church should be stepping in. I am not against women working if that what she wants to do, AFTER the children are raised. I was lucky enough to have a stay at home Mom. She worked in an office while we kids had school. A time long gone I am afraid. The system is such both parents MUST work to make ends meet. There are plenty of women who would prefer to stay home, raise their family and keep house. But this would have avoided all the poison we eat. Home made food vs boxed. I would love to stay home and keep the house, garden, cook and clean. Unfortunately, I make the money he pretty much stays home except for the odd job here and there......
The "bra burning" was a loxist media stunt in Atlantic City. You need to stop trusting your college teachers on stuff like this.
feminism always leads to division, hatred of men, and ultimately to the destruction of the traditional family.
America was feminist before feminism; women going to college, becoming scientists, physicians, attorneys, business owners. Hollywood/ media distorted it to make it appear they were constant victims under relentless oppression by the very people who were working beside them. The usual bolshevik tactics were used on us.
Find a husband who is not bad.
"So the feminism movement went off the rails pretty damn fast." It got gay pretty fast too.
Good feminism is kind of like good BLM. The definition is purposefully in constant flux, and the only constant is that it divides, polarizes, and creates conflict.
And considering that there of course are also enough bad women: what would protect both, wives with bad husbands, husbands with bad wives, and especially the children of those marriages or relationships?
it's only necessary when men aren't fulfilling their roles. so the solution is for men to fulfill their role.
How do women find those men, when the pool of men was DELIBERATELY DESTROYED AND DOWNBRED thanks to four generations of war draft and war, deliberately selecting for destruction/maiming the very flower of those generations from WW1 on?
church is a good place to start
The churches have backed the (((concerted destruction of white male chads))) back to the 19-teens. And they continue to make heroes of men who destroy themselves and their families to go to war for Greatest Ally.
Gonna need another suggestion.
you act like there's only one church. there are lots of bad ones, but there are lots of good ones, too. and if you're really searching, you'll find the right one for you.
From experience... not necessarily.
doesn't mean all men at church are good. but genuinely seeking God is always a good place to start, and that usually involves a church.
The "genuine" quality is the hard part. Unfortunately, some men go to church because they've been told that's where decent women are. Not because they're seeking God. It's good to be discerning wherever you find an interested man.
nah. I'm saying if YOU are genuinely seeking God, then it doesn't really matter what the other church-goers are doing. Tune up your spirit and eventually, one way or another, you will find like-minded people.