""If the debates were intended to allow The People to choose their candidate, why was the #1 candidate, according to (unriggable) straw polls, not given more time?
The answer is obvious. The Establishment already had their chosen candidate in Mitt Romney, and the corrupt media was there to ensure Ron Paul’s message didn’t get out to the masses.
Even still, he was winning post-debate polls EVERY TIME.
Ron Paul was the OG anti-Establishment candidate, but they succeeded in rigging the system against him and stopping his movement.
Unfortunately for them, they can’t stop President Trump. Their system is broken and The People are awake at levels never seen before.
Had a liberal friend, back before they went bananas, who would have voted for Ron Paul as president. He was America First, before Trump. I hated the media for how they treated Dr. Paul. Did y’all know he served in the military?
Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1968 and finished his service with the rank of Captain. He also served in the Texas Air National Guard.
Yep, they completely F'd Paul large, and we all watched it in real time.
Boy was the left laughing at us...
Then came Bernie and the Democrats did to him, exactly what the Republicans did to Paul.
Anyone, from either political 'side', from that moment on should know in their soul of souls that the Uniparty is real, and really a danger to all of us.
Ron Paul was also hugely supported on Reddit, back when Reddit was more organic. That enthusiasm was eventually shut down, laying bare the censorship of a public forum.
Well, as someone that was there during the time, from my memory..
Reddit was 100% libertarian tech bros in 2000-2006, then it started to become popular.. That is when the Obama campaign first bought off the r/politics mods. This was also before any 'vote fuzzing', so you could watch it happen in real time.
Submit a pro-Paul article, and within 1min it had 100's of downvotes. Submit a pro-Obama piece and it was the exact opposite. 100's of upvotes far before reasonable. Also then it was shown they were using early bots to instant downvote any upvote certain users did to make them zero-value.
Elections are set for two parties---Rep and Dem----They control Congress who allocates money and protection to potential candidates and they ALWAYS favor their two parties. THIS is the reason Trump did not run on a third party ticket. He had to take the Republican nomination away from the DS Republicans by getting the public to vote for him. The system is rigged against any third party candidate by the people that run the system. It all needs to be razed to the ground and rebuilt according to Constitutional LAW. Separating the power of elections away from those with a vested interest in who runs and who is elected.
The day after the 2008 election I saw my first Ron Paul campaign video and realized I had been kept uninformed of his platform. Then I had another 4 years to learn all I could about Dr. Paul and bought "Liberty Defined" and decided to get involved. That was when I knew we were in a manufactured reality and the only way out was to get activated and be a pain in the ass to the establishment. God gave me a role and I was ready to engage. There was no going back to sleep.
His grassroots supporters (at least in my area) weren't very competent at promoting him either. As I recall even the leaflet someone handed me on my college campus told me nothing about his policies, it was pretty much just about character and painting him as a swell guy.
I was at the Texas state Republican convention while this was all going on. This was during the Teaparty days. At this time, our group from south Austin and other areas around Austin took control of the county convention and then the congressional district convention by virtue of how many of us showed up and voted our conscience and not the party line.
When we showed up to the state convention, all the districts were seated in numerical order starting at the front by the stage and working left to right across the convention center, then towards the back. We were looking for our district seating but could not find it. It was the only district NOT in its numerical order space. It was in the back corner of the convention hall, nearest to all the vendor booths which always had a din of noise from all the people there while the convention was in order.
Trying to make nice in spite of of obvious seating malfeasance, we tried talking to those seated near us. They would not engage. We all noticed it but did not know anything more that that. Finally, about half way thru day one, one of the ladies near our group overheard us commenting on how icy everyone seemed to be. That is when she told us that everybody had been told by the party officials that we were "radical nazis from Austin" and they would be wasting time even talking to us. Upon learning this we huddled, and decided to go on a handshaking meet and greet to each congressional district and work into the conversation that we were just constitution and nation loving people who wanted a better tomorrow for our children.
As the convention wore on there was an issue developing that was pitting the old school Republicans against us new ones. In Nueces County (which is where Corpus Christi is) had done like us in Austin had done and had voted out most of the old school delegates. Just days before the convention, the party officials had announced unilaterally, they they had unseated all these new people and reinstated the old ones. We being the patriots we were and are, knew this was not right. A lot of the people who had been told we were nazis started agreeing with us. So when the convention leaders saw that a vote might possibly not go their way, they surprised everybody by getting a local judge to agree with them and issue a ruling. So they "announced" this from the stage to everybody. We were stunned. This was when Debra Medina was running for Governor, so her people said "None of us were present to present our side at the last judge, so let's appeal this to a higher court". A few minutes later they were literally passing a hat to pay the atty's. Soon, there was a new higher ruling that the new people should stay. This kept happening over and over during the convention. One side would appeal the last ruling to a higher court then announce it on stage. So, this hat passing had continued each time it was our turn to appeal. I had run out of cash and had to find an atm machine. At the same time, we heard a rumor than Ron Paul was stepping down. So on my way to find atm, I was alone in the lobby with a friend and we were looking for cash machine. Two guys were walking from the opposite direction, as they got closer we could see it was Ron Paul and I presume an aide. We were excited to meet him, we did not even know he was in Texas at the time. We asked him If the rumors were true about bowing out. He said he was told California would not be a win for him in the primary (we disagreed, but to no avail). So I asked him, "I am attempting to be slated to become a member of the electoral college, what do I do if you are not there ?" He said to go ahead and do it but vote my conscience. Also, to seek elected office and help become the change we were seeking.
Upon returning to our section in the convention, we shared what we had just heard and seen. I was asking around about electoral college duties, and found out that you are supposed to vote electorally as the district votes. There had been instances where electoral college person deviated from the norm and this usually wound up in the person being barred from party for life. I could not in good conscience vote for Romney the RINO, so I bowed out.
But the good news in all of this is that the old school Republicans had let their true colors fly during the Nueces county thing and thus had played out on stage at the convention. So by the time it was over, all the people who would not speak to us originally, were stopping by our section and shaking our hands for being there and thanking us for speaking out.
And as Walter Cronkite used to say...."That's the way it was" in 2012.
He came in second in one of the critical straw polls and the corrupt media skipped over him when reporting on the results! He had a complete media blackout. This was a huge red pill for me at the time. Bit of a black pill at first. I was so mad. I remember complaining to my family and they just said it was because he couldn’t win anyway. Uhhh…. Because the media and government are so corrupt? I just can’t imagine justifying that.
I remember in one of the bigger debates for 2012 they were actually blacking out the video and audio feed when Ron was talking. Absolutely made me furious, especially the way he was treated. Woke me up even more back then.
I specifically remember the camera would pan from left to right to show all the candidates, but as soon as Ron Paul's pinky finger entered the frame, they would cut to a different camera that would start at the last person and pan from right to left, again cutting to a different shot as soon as Ron Paul's pinky entered the frame. They gave the unaware audience the belief that every candidate was being shown while actually erasing one of the most popular ones.
Thank you for posting ,, any little guy of props RP gets is well deserved . I pray he wants and gets a placdd Ed to help our nation in the DJT administration .
""If the debates were intended to allow The People to choose their candidate, why was the #1 candidate, according to (unriggable) straw polls, not given more time?
The answer is obvious. The Establishment already had their chosen candidate in Mitt Romney, and the corrupt media was there to ensure Ron Paul’s message didn’t get out to the masses.
Even still, he was winning post-debate polls EVERY TIME.
Ron Paul was the OG anti-Establishment candidate, but they succeeded in rigging the system against him and stopping his movement.
Unfortunately for them, they can’t stop President Trump. Their system is broken and The People are awake at levels never seen before.
Had a liberal friend, back before they went bananas, who would have voted for Ron Paul as president. He was America First, before Trump. I hated the media for how they treated Dr. Paul. Did y’all know he served in the military?
Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1968 and finished his service with the rank of Captain. He also served in the Texas Air National Guard.
Yep, they completely F'd Paul large, and we all watched it in real time.
Boy was the left laughing at us...
Then came Bernie and the Democrats did to him, exactly what the Republicans did to Paul.
Anyone, from either political 'side', from that moment on should know in their soul of souls that the Uniparty is real, and really a danger to all of us.
Sadly... so many still refuse to see it.
Ron Paul was also hugely supported on Reddit, back when Reddit was more organic. That enthusiasm was eventually shut down, laying bare the censorship of a public forum.
Well, as someone that was there during the time, from my memory..
Reddit was 100% libertarian tech bros in 2000-2006, then it started to become popular.. That is when the Obama campaign first bought off the r/politics mods. This was also before any 'vote fuzzing', so you could watch it happen in real time.
Submit a pro-Paul article, and within 1min it had 100's of downvotes. Submit a pro-Obama piece and it was the exact opposite. 100's of upvotes far before reasonable. Also then it was shown they were using early bots to instant downvote any upvote certain users did to make them zero-value.
Elections are set for two parties---Rep and Dem----They control Congress who allocates money and protection to potential candidates and they ALWAYS favor their two parties. THIS is the reason Trump did not run on a third party ticket. He had to take the Republican nomination away from the DS Republicans by getting the public to vote for him. The system is rigged against any third party candidate by the people that run the system. It all needs to be razed to the ground and rebuilt according to Constitutional LAW. Separating the power of elections away from those with a vested interest in who runs and who is elected.
The day after the 2008 election I saw my first Ron Paul campaign video and realized I had been kept uninformed of his platform. Then I had another 4 years to learn all I could about Dr. Paul and bought "Liberty Defined" and decided to get involved. That was when I knew we were in a manufactured reality and the only way out was to get activated and be a pain in the ass to the establishment. God gave me a role and I was ready to engage. There was no going back to sleep.
His grassroots supporters (at least in my area) weren't very competent at promoting him either. As I recall even the leaflet someone handed me on my college campus told me nothing about his policies, it was pretty much just about character and painting him as a swell guy.
And Ross Perot!
Ross got the Bush treatment (ie, threatened to kill his family).
I bet ya he had a chart about that!
I was at the Texas state Republican convention while this was all going on. This was during the Teaparty days. At this time, our group from south Austin and other areas around Austin took control of the county convention and then the congressional district convention by virtue of how many of us showed up and voted our conscience and not the party line. When we showed up to the state convention, all the districts were seated in numerical order starting at the front by the stage and working left to right across the convention center, then towards the back. We were looking for our district seating but could not find it. It was the only district NOT in its numerical order space. It was in the back corner of the convention hall, nearest to all the vendor booths which always had a din of noise from all the people there while the convention was in order. Trying to make nice in spite of of obvious seating malfeasance, we tried talking to those seated near us. They would not engage. We all noticed it but did not know anything more that that. Finally, about half way thru day one, one of the ladies near our group overheard us commenting on how icy everyone seemed to be. That is when she told us that everybody had been told by the party officials that we were "radical nazis from Austin" and they would be wasting time even talking to us. Upon learning this we huddled, and decided to go on a handshaking meet and greet to each congressional district and work into the conversation that we were just constitution and nation loving people who wanted a better tomorrow for our children. As the convention wore on there was an issue developing that was pitting the old school Republicans against us new ones. In Nueces County (which is where Corpus Christi is) had done like us in Austin had done and had voted out most of the old school delegates. Just days before the convention, the party officials had announced unilaterally, they they had unseated all these new people and reinstated the old ones. We being the patriots we were and are, knew this was not right. A lot of the people who had been told we were nazis started agreeing with us. So when the convention leaders saw that a vote might possibly not go their way, they surprised everybody by getting a local judge to agree with them and issue a ruling. So they "announced" this from the stage to everybody. We were stunned. This was when Debra Medina was running for Governor, so her people said "None of us were present to present our side at the last judge, so let's appeal this to a higher court". A few minutes later they were literally passing a hat to pay the atty's. Soon, there was a new higher ruling that the new people should stay. This kept happening over and over during the convention. One side would appeal the last ruling to a higher court then announce it on stage. So, this hat passing had continued each time it was our turn to appeal. I had run out of cash and had to find an atm machine. At the same time, we heard a rumor than Ron Paul was stepping down. So on my way to find atm, I was alone in the lobby with a friend and we were looking for cash machine. Two guys were walking from the opposite direction, as they got closer we could see it was Ron Paul and I presume an aide. We were excited to meet him, we did not even know he was in Texas at the time. We asked him If the rumors were true about bowing out. He said he was told California would not be a win for him in the primary (we disagreed, but to no avail). So I asked him, "I am attempting to be slated to become a member of the electoral college, what do I do if you are not there ?" He said to go ahead and do it but vote my conscience. Also, to seek elected office and help become the change we were seeking. Upon returning to our section in the convention, we shared what we had just heard and seen. I was asking around about electoral college duties, and found out that you are supposed to vote electorally as the district votes. There had been instances where electoral college person deviated from the norm and this usually wound up in the person being barred from party for life. I could not in good conscience vote for Romney the RINO, so I bowed out. But the good news in all of this is that the old school Republicans had let their true colors fly during the Nueces county thing and thus had played out on stage at the convention. So by the time it was over, all the people who would not speak to us originally, were stopping by our section and shaking our hands for being there and thanking us for speaking out. And as Walter Cronkite used to say...."That's the way it was" in 2012.
Learning from experience in Texas
I forget who was running..but dude from Texas was saying what he would cut and struggled ..Ron Paul told him what to cut lol
He came in second in one of the critical straw polls and the corrupt media skipped over him when reporting on the results! He had a complete media blackout. This was a huge red pill for me at the time. Bit of a black pill at first. I was so mad. I remember complaining to my family and they just said it was because he couldn’t win anyway. Uhhh…. Because the media and government are so corrupt? I just can’t imagine justifying that.
This was the moment my journey from Republican towards being libertarian, then minarchist, and finally a full free market capitalist, began.
I remember in one of the bigger debates for 2012 they were actually blacking out the video and audio feed when Ron was talking. Absolutely made me furious, especially the way he was treated. Woke me up even more back then.
I specifically remember the camera would pan from left to right to show all the candidates, but as soon as Ron Paul's pinky finger entered the frame, they would cut to a different camera that would start at the last person and pan from right to left, again cutting to a different shot as soon as Ron Paul's pinky entered the frame. They gave the unaware audience the belief that every candidate was being shown while actually erasing one of the most popular ones.
Thank you for posting ,, any little guy of props RP gets is well deserved . I pray he wants and gets a placdd Ed to help our nation in the DJT administration .