The result today proves that there is no way Biden got 84M votes in 2020. Trump will end up more or less with a similar amount of votes as he got in 2020bin the low 70M.
BUT Kamala is going to finish up with 18M less votes than Biden got in 2020.
There's is NO WAY that nearly 20M less Democrat supporters didn't bother turning up to vote in 2024 for Kamala.
It's not like they turned to Trump as his numbers have not moved so where did they go? They probably never existed in the first place like we all thought.
I still can't believe there's that many Harris voters
No way she has that many votes. The US system is retarded when you don't even need id to vote and other people can send in unactive voters ballots by mail. The people I try to tell about your corrupt system stop listening efter the first few seconds because they do not believe anything I say since it is that retarded; how come they have never heard this before and there is no way anyone would accept anything like it so therefore it can't be true.
Same, but whatever the case, it was too big to rig and time to be a prosperous nation again
Trump got the same it similar votes to 2020 so it wasn't too big to rig BUT I think the GOP was ready and watching and armed with an army of lawyers to try stop massive cheating. I'm still sure they didn't catch everything that delivered votes to lying Kamala
Just thinking out loud. If you know your candidate can’t win on her own. And, you know your pathways for rigging the Electoral College are blocked, what is your fallback strategy?
You cheat where you can to create a narrative. The preferred narrative would be that she won the popular vote so the DS can complain the Electoral College is anti-Democratic. Failing that, the narrative we are an equally divided country is their only refuge.
I know, right?!?!
I am sure with Trump owning the House and the Senate, he will demand his DOJ to prosecute the cheaters of the 2020 election.
He owned the House and Senate in 2017-2018. The Republicans blocked him at every turn.
This.
The leftists in my circle as claiming TRUMP rigged this one.
It's so sad.
No way she got anywhere near either popular or electoral votes.
There's just no way.
Too big to rig saved us, but I think there should be an investigation into cheating anyway...
Doesn’t the 2024 result also suggest the rigging was somehow blocked? The 2020 result should have given them cover to inject around 20 million ballots for Harris, but it didn’t happen.
Yes, that's my point. The cheating was at least 20M votes in 2020 because they suddenly evaporated. If they could have, they would have cheated again but I think the GOP were really for them.
What I can’t figure out is how they blocked the cheating this year. Or, at least substantially blocked it. As you point out, in the end, the vote totals were not too big too rig. I think President Trump would have needed at least 82 million votes to say that was true.
Yes, completely correct but probably more because remember Biden got 84M in 2020. So too big to rig would mean well in excess of that number which Trump did not achieve. He achieved more or less the same in 2024 as in 2020.
So in my estimate it is likely the real number of cheating votes were in the vicinity of 20M at least as it doesn't make sense that those that voted for Biden would not show up and vote for Kamala and that's assuming there's was no cheating at all in 2024 election.
My theory doesn't prove cheating but it certainly highlights a huge discrepancy that doesn't make sense and can only be attributed to cheating. Afterall, Biden achieved more votes than any other president in history. Trump got the second highest ever and lost!! Biden got more votes than Barak Hussein Obama even against the black and Hispanic votes.