I have seen that video before. It is, of course, propaganda made with lots of CI, but I don't doubt that the Military specifics are correct. Even if Poseidon caused a quarter of the damage that is predicted (and in this video that damage is aimed at Britain, but it could be any country with a decent coast), it would be quite devastating.
the point is: Russia has some innovative nukes. Don't even think about attacking them. If they declare war on NATO, then they won't play nice with civilians like they are doing now.
Yes, I am seeing a lot of that sort of comment. Many are now calling for a decapitation strike on the Ukrainian leadership, which is outside of Special Military Operation doctrine. The latter prohibits such strikes. So in order to take out Agent Z, they need to first upgrade the SMO to another doctrine that allows decapitation strikes. That means the legislature, and the army, need to formulate what they are going to do (Will Russians declare war? Or is there another label they can conjure up?), and change the profile of the current operation.
There is of course, Trump. But the Russians are not putting much hope in that idea. It's a 'we shall see' moment - the current thought is that Trump is unpredictable. Here is for hope.
But it seems that everyone, especially state dept (i.e. NYT), is playing chicken during this dead period of transition. Will Trump do anything before Jan 20, apart from talking and properly announcing the new positions? I think not, because he likes to play by the rules. Is there a rule whereby an incoming president can 'take the reigns' early? How about Kamala's last venomous strike against Biden - will she try? NO, I think she's proper done. Anyway, this little effort is coming from the State department, not Bai-den.
Hey, apparently Westerners are quite happy with decaptiation strikes, given that assassinations happen all the time. No-one blinked when it was a Palestinian academic, who was negotiating a cease-fire. So that's fine, nothing to see here. It happened in Iran, anyway. /s
Well, I think it is simply fear porn. No imagery of actual things. The 100 MT yield comes from the Tsar Bomba program. The Tsar Bomba was about 2 meters in diameter, which is larger than the speculated Poseidon torpedo. One cannot miniaturize nuclear weapons arbitrarily, as their yield is a function of the amount of materials required for the detonation.
One can suppose such a system using a 1 MT warhead. The effects would be more predictable and less of a throwback menace to the Russians themselves.
Putin trusted the West/Us/Uk/Germany back in 2014/2015. He was fooled. From the coup, to the start of the SMO in February 2022, 14,000 Russian civilians were murdered by the NATO/Ukraine Military. Public pressure pushed him to go into Ukraine to SAVE those Russians stuck in the Donbass. After the Referendum, 2 million Russians were moved back into Russia to stop them being murdered like their fellow Russians. He won’t be fooled a second time.
Who did he trust? Who fooled him? Does Putin lump patriots with the likes of the deep state? I think he understands the nuances of our screwed up political system better than we think. But I’m just a smooth brain hick what do I know.
You have to remember, Russia was coming out of the Soviet era full of oligarchs that virtually ran Russia at its. beginning. Putin cleaned house - the same thing that Trump will hopefully do. You could say it was the globalists that had one agenda. To fleece Russia of its natural resources, its sovereignty. The very same pattern/agenda operating within America today. The plan saw Russia being divided into 8 or 9 states with those globalists salivating over their given portions. Unfortunately for the globalists, while they were pushing a woke agenda in their respective armies, Russia was building a military that PROTECTS the Russian people. At the end of the day, this is all that matters. To protect the citizens within its borders. America hasn’t done that. The West hasn’t done that. The EU and UK haven’t done that. They have sold the American citizens to the highest bidder - the globalists and the various industrial complexes and the people have suffered greatly. They care not about the American people so don’t be uppity that Putin is protecting his people.
The globalists aka the zionists aka the khazarians who are originally from Ukraine, never forgave Russia for christianizing their home nation(they're satanists after all). Every Russian needs to be wiped off the face of the planet. To them, it's personal.
I appreciate this reply and I see your point. My question is, is Putin so cold and closed minded to not see what you have pointed out (Americans getting fleeced by the globalist and industrial powers) since he has already dealt with this in his own land? I want to believe that he sees our plight as Patriots and knows Trump with help usher in a peaceful world and wouldn’t escalate to nukes striking the US. Maybe I’m in the weeds here.
He won't escalate simply because he knows Trump will take over soon and will try to strike a deal.
What I do see happening in the next couple of months is the Russians trying to take as much land as they can so they can get a more favorable peace deal.
I had the same thought regarding the land. The main thing is for a buffer zone. If Ukraine ends up in NATO though, all bets are off. There’s not much left of Ukraine and I would like to see what crimes are going to be found. There seems too much protection of Ukraine by many, many countries. The placement of Hunter Biden on an energy company is just the tip of the iceberg.
I have seen that video before. It is, of course, propaganda made with lots of CI, but I don't doubt that the Military specifics are correct. Even if Poseidon caused a quarter of the damage that is predicted (and in this video that damage is aimed at Britain, but it could be any country with a decent coast), it would be quite devastating.
the point is: Russia has some innovative nukes. Don't even think about attacking them. If they declare war on NATO, then they won't play nice with civilians like they are doing now.
I think what will happen is that Russia will stage an invasion of Kiev and most of it will be done with conventional weapons.
Yes, I am seeing a lot of that sort of comment. Many are now calling for a decapitation strike on the Ukrainian leadership, which is outside of Special Military Operation doctrine. The latter prohibits such strikes. So in order to take out Agent Z, they need to first upgrade the SMO to another doctrine that allows decapitation strikes. That means the legislature, and the army, need to formulate what they are going to do (Will Russians declare war? Or is there another label they can conjure up?), and change the profile of the current operation.
There is of course, Trump. But the Russians are not putting much hope in that idea. It's a 'we shall see' moment - the current thought is that Trump is unpredictable. Here is for hope.
But it seems that everyone, especially state dept (i.e. NYT), is playing chicken during this dead period of transition. Will Trump do anything before Jan 20, apart from talking and properly announcing the new positions? I think not, because he likes to play by the rules. Is there a rule whereby an incoming president can 'take the reigns' early? How about Kamala's last venomous strike against Biden - will she try? NO, I think she's proper done. Anyway, this little effort is coming from the State department, not Bai-den.
Hey, apparently Westerners are quite happy with decaptiation strikes, given that assassinations happen all the time. No-one blinked when it was a Palestinian academic, who was negotiating a cease-fire. So that's fine, nothing to see here. It happened in Iran, anyway. /s
I think we could see a D-Day type operation with Russian troops parachuting into Kiev. But both are going to require a declaration of war.
Yes, and the problem is: who to delare war against?
Is this the precipice?
the queen got out just in time
Well, I think it is simply fear porn. No imagery of actual things. The 100 MT yield comes from the Tsar Bomba program. The Tsar Bomba was about 2 meters in diameter, which is larger than the speculated Poseidon torpedo. One cannot miniaturize nuclear weapons arbitrarily, as their yield is a function of the amount of materials required for the detonation.
One can suppose such a system using a 1 MT warhead. The effects would be more predictable and less of a throwback menace to the Russians themselves.
My response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDHvYdi6Bu4
Putins move wouldn't be that obvious. They could use something that big in deep water and cause a tsunami
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1858818260856119296/vid/avc1/1280x720/EYEVPJYO5lDU1U-w.mp4
Fear porn. Russia won't escalate unless they target Putin or his immediate entourage.
It will be business as usual with more resource redirected for anti-air missile protection.
Ya sure about that??
Putin trusted the West/Us/Uk/Germany back in 2014/2015. He was fooled. From the coup, to the start of the SMO in February 2022, 14,000 Russian civilians were murdered by the NATO/Ukraine Military. Public pressure pushed him to go into Ukraine to SAVE those Russians stuck in the Donbass. After the Referendum, 2 million Russians were moved back into Russia to stop them being murdered like their fellow Russians. He won’t be fooled a second time.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/22/ffci-d22.html
Who did he trust? Who fooled him? Does Putin lump patriots with the likes of the deep state? I think he understands the nuances of our screwed up political system better than we think. But I’m just a smooth brain hick what do I know.
You have to remember, Russia was coming out of the Soviet era full of oligarchs that virtually ran Russia at its. beginning. Putin cleaned house - the same thing that Trump will hopefully do. You could say it was the globalists that had one agenda. To fleece Russia of its natural resources, its sovereignty. The very same pattern/agenda operating within America today. The plan saw Russia being divided into 8 or 9 states with those globalists salivating over their given portions. Unfortunately for the globalists, while they were pushing a woke agenda in their respective armies, Russia was building a military that PROTECTS the Russian people. At the end of the day, this is all that matters. To protect the citizens within its borders. America hasn’t done that. The West hasn’t done that. The EU and UK haven’t done that. They have sold the American citizens to the highest bidder - the globalists and the various industrial complexes and the people have suffered greatly. They care not about the American people so don’t be uppity that Putin is protecting his people.
It's deeper than that.
The globalists aka the zionists aka the khazarians who are originally from Ukraine, never forgave Russia for christianizing their home nation(they're satanists after all). Every Russian needs to be wiped off the face of the planet. To them, it's personal.
I appreciate this reply and I see your point. My question is, is Putin so cold and closed minded to not see what you have pointed out (Americans getting fleeced by the globalist and industrial powers) since he has already dealt with this in his own land? I want to believe that he sees our plight as Patriots and knows Trump with help usher in a peaceful world and wouldn’t escalate to nukes striking the US. Maybe I’m in the weeds here.
100%.
He won't escalate simply because he knows Trump will take over soon and will try to strike a deal.
What I do see happening in the next couple of months is the Russians trying to take as much land as they can so they can get a more favorable peace deal.
I had the same thought regarding the land. The main thing is for a buffer zone. If Ukraine ends up in NATO though, all bets are off. There’s not much left of Ukraine and I would like to see what crimes are going to be found. There seems too much protection of Ukraine by many, many countries. The placement of Hunter Biden on an energy company is just the tip of the iceberg.