There's a reason the Founding Fathers very narrowly defined treason. I would imagine royalty used to consider treason to be simply ill-spoken words about them and their family. "King so-and-so won't lower taxes even though we're not doing well." Local police (because that's what they were): "Stop! You're under arrest for treason against the king!"
Actually the President can pardon treason. The only thing that is unpardonable is being found guilty in an impeachment proceeding. Its right there in black and white in Article II.
But fraud vitiates everything. 2020 needs to be adjudicated and I think it will be a very high priority because without doing so we cant fix our elections and all the wrongs suffered by Trump, his family, his advisers and, indeed, the entirety of the American People were for naught.
Fauci is not subject to it
J6 Committee are not subject to it.
Has a whole chapter in the military code of Justice about who is subject to it and only General Miley because he is a member of the military would be subject to it.
Civilians are not subject to it except in very very rare circumstances
Civilians are not subject to it except in very very rare circumstances
I wonder why Lady Linsey questioned Kavanaugh about this case during confirmation ?
Johnson v. Eisentrager, 339 U.S. 763 (1950)
"We hold that the Constitution does not confer a right of personal security or an immunity from military trial and punishment upon an alien enemy engaged in the hostile service of a government at war with the United States."
"...It is not for us to say whether these prisoners were or were not guilty of a war crime, or whether if we were to retry the case we would agree to the findings of fact or the application of the laws of war made by the Military Commission. The petition shows that these prisoners were formally accused of violating the laws of war and fully informed of particulars of these charges."
"We hold that the Constitution does not confer a right of personal security or an immunity from military trial and punishment upon an alien enemy engaged in the hostile service of a government at war with the United States
This was not a case involving civilians. So this doesn't apply.
Also, do you understand how RARE a circumstance Johnson v. Eisentrager was?
They were openly engaged in war.
They weren't even Americans.
They were never under civilian jurisdiction and never in the United States.
So I don't see how this applies.
Here's the facts of Johnson v. Eisentrager
The prisoners had been convicted in China by an American military commission of violating the laws of war, by engaging in, permitting, or ordering continued military activity against the United States after surrender of Germany and before surrender of Japan. They were transported to the American-occupied part of Germany and imprisoned there in the custody of the US Army.
Graham brought this up in the context of enemy combatants which is also super rare circumstances.
The president cannot grant pardons in cases of treason.
Illegitimate president's can't issue legitimate pardons either
And innocent people don't need preemptive pardons.
This news just reconfirms the guilt for Fauci, Milley, the J6 committee
If Crimes Against Humanity are Geneva Convention (or int'l) court then he cannot pardon that either.
There's a reason the Founding Fathers very narrowly defined treason. I would imagine royalty used to consider treason to be simply ill-spoken words about them and their family. "King so-and-so won't lower taxes even though we're not doing well." Local police (because that's what they were): "Stop! You're under arrest for treason against the king!"
Good point
Actually the President can pardon treason. The only thing that is unpardonable is being found guilty in an impeachment proceeding. Its right there in black and white in Article II.
But fraud vitiates everything. 2020 needs to be adjudicated and I think it will be a very high priority because without doing so we cant fix our elections and all the wrongs suffered by Trump, his family, his advisers and, indeed, the entirety of the American People were for naught.
If Biden voted for Trump, then is this a trap for all the people who have been using/controlling Biden?
Especially with the
Also.. https://twitter.com/its_The_Dr/status/1881338107125182975
Do the pardons include Military Justice ?
Read up on military justice.
Fauci is not subject to it J6 Committee are not subject to it.
Has a whole chapter in the military code of Justice about who is subject to it and only General Miley because he is a member of the military would be subject to it.
Civilians are not subject to it except in very very rare circumstances
I wonder why Lady Linsey questioned Kavanaugh about this case during confirmation ?
Johnson v. Eisentrager, 339 U.S. 763 (1950)
"We hold that the Constitution does not confer a right of personal security or an immunity from military trial and punishment upon an alien enemy engaged in the hostile service of a government at war with the United States."
"...It is not for us to say whether these prisoners were or were not guilty of a war crime, or whether if we were to retry the case we would agree to the findings of fact or the application of the laws of war made by the Military Commission. The petition shows that these prisoners were formally accused of violating the laws of war and fully informed of particulars of these charges."
This was not a case involving civilians. So this doesn't apply.
Also, do you understand how RARE a circumstance Johnson v. Eisentrager was?
They were openly engaged in war.
They weren't even Americans.
They were never under civilian jurisdiction and never in the United States.
So I don't see how this applies.
Here's the facts of Johnson v. Eisentrager
Graham brought this up in the context of enemy combatants which is also super rare circumstances.
This gives me peace.