Sure, bro...if you're defending THAT hard...and YOU are making your rounds on media and podcast interviews tonight (to take advantage of your 15 minutes of fame)...then you're helping to hide something.
I get so...SO...fucking weary of this crap sometimes.
He's right about most of what he said. He is not a pilot however. And he is most likely a normie. I was listening to Chris Plante this morning and he had a caller who was a US Army major call in. Major did an 18 month rotation flying for PAT operations out of Belvoir and he specifically said they had a 200' flight ceiling around the airport. I was getting distracted while listen, but recommend going to WMAL and listen to the podcast from this mornings' show around 0930-1000.
Yes, read about the Doomsday plane about 20 min after hearing about the crash last night...kind of odd. TY for the heads up on the CP episode, will check it out!
ooo, the jennifer lady. a reporter asked her if it hurt the investigation to have a president suggest that the problem is dei before the problem is known. she said, well reporters often suggest what they think before anything is known, so ....
It's still interesting to those of us who are addicted to detecive/crime shows, to hear the organizational structures they are using. They are stating which investigative bodies are going to be involved, and what data-sets they are intending to gather.
This signals that they will be thorough.
As the blonde said: there is other data to collect, while they continue to look for the blak box (now orange). Also, there are 'other recording devices' aboard the BH. OK.
The questions are preddy dumb (e.g. was it human error?), but the speakers are pragmatic. OBVIO that's a conclusion, and they are still gathering data.
Currently it is the 'direct persihable evidence' in the debris fields that they are in a hurry to retirieve. This includes bodies, organic material and things that can be easily washed away in the current. It's a scramble of ferensic evidence gathering, against time.
Meanwhile, our President has signed over 200 EO's, brought in Trillions of investment dollars to the US, removed thousands of illegals, signed his first Bill into Law, will be placing tariffs on nations in a few days, and has done all of this (AND MUCH MORE) in just a few days in office.
It is breathtaking the difference between Trump and career bureaucrats.
Speaking of breathtaking, this dude needs a CPAP just to make it through a presser. Dear Lord, we need RFK Jr and MAHA yesterday.
Something to note: the controller asks PAT25 (BlackHawk) if he sees the CRJ (plane). PAT25 confirms, and requests "Visual Separation". That means that he is affirming seeing the plane, and will himself work to avoid it. This happens twice (0:32 and 1:14)
I suspect that, due to the congested airspace at the time, the Blackhawk pilot was looking at another plane and mistook it for the CRJ.
Total arm-chairing here but yeah, I think he was looking at the aircraft farther out, ahead of him, and not the CRJ to his left turning for final. He essentially t-boned the plane
Have NOT RECOVERED DATA RECORDERS YET
No flight recorder on Black Hawk. Also, helos have to stay below 200’ why did crash happen at 400’? These were elite pilots.
But, but...experienced Blackhawk pilot/instructor on X.com hints that us conspiracy theorists are simply "grifters."
https://x.com/Mark_McEathron/status/1884849637066260815
Sure, bro...if you're defending THAT hard...and YOU are making your rounds on media and podcast interviews tonight (to take advantage of your 15 minutes of fame)...then you're helping to hide something.
I get so...SO...fucking weary of this crap sometimes.
He's right about most of what he said. He is not a pilot however. And he is most likely a normie. I was listening to Chris Plante this morning and he had a caller who was a US Army major call in. Major did an 18 month rotation flying for PAT operations out of Belvoir and he specifically said they had a 200' flight ceiling around the airport. I was getting distracted while listen, but recommend going to WMAL and listen to the podcast from this mornings' show around 0930-1000.
https://www.wmal.com/personalities/chris-plante/
INteresting that the Doomsday plane was landing at Joint Base Andrews around the time of the crash: https://ibb.co/C5nGMm6S
Yes, read about the Doomsday plane about 20 min after hearing about the crash last night...kind of odd. TY for the heads up on the CP episode, will check it out!
I remember a boat getting driven into a canal side and another into a bridge... and Tiger Woods remembers something about a car accident...
Yes...
ooo, the jennifer lady. a reporter asked her if it hurt the investigation to have a president suggest that the problem is dei before the problem is known. she said, well reporters often suggest what they think before anything is known, so ....
Thanks mod frens! 🫡
Understand why they are holding press conference, but they essentially are holding presser to say that don't now anything yet.
SOP
It's still interesting to those of us who are addicted to detecive/crime shows, to hear the organizational structures they are using. They are stating which investigative bodies are going to be involved, and what data-sets they are intending to gather.
This signals that they will be thorough.
As the blonde said: there is other data to collect, while they continue to look for the blak box (now orange). Also, there are 'other recording devices' aboard the BH. OK.
The questions are preddy dumb (e.g. was it human error?), but the speakers are pragmatic. OBVIO that's a conclusion, and they are still gathering data.
Currently it is the 'direct persihable evidence' in the debris fields that they are in a hurry to retirieve. This includes bodies, organic material and things that can be easily washed away in the current. It's a scramble of ferensic evidence gathering, against time.
Special mention of smart-phone retrieval.
Our intention is to have a piliminary report within 30 days.
They need 30 days for this report.
Meanwhile, our President has signed over 200 EO's, brought in Trillions of investment dollars to the US, removed thousands of illegals, signed his first Bill into Law, will be placing tariffs on nations in a few days, and has done all of this (AND MUCH MORE) in just a few days in office.
It is breathtaking the difference between Trump and career bureaucrats.
Speaking of breathtaking, this dude needs a CPAP just to make it through a presser. Dear Lord, we need RFK Jr and MAHA yesterday.
Well, the things we see from Trump were clearly prepared ahead of time!
But damn I'm glad to see him do this work.
It's been nice to be able to unplug and do other hobbies since he won.
Best comment 😂
So tldr version is, “we don’t know anything, but here’s 6 mins of thanking everyone, any questions?”
This is the radio traffic audio from the incident: https://youtu.be/r90Xw3tQC0I?si=O43ITls_vUjzczBA
Something to note: the controller asks PAT25 (BlackHawk) if he sees the CRJ (plane). PAT25 confirms, and requests "Visual Separation". That means that he is affirming seeing the plane, and will himself work to avoid it. This happens twice (0:32 and 1:14)
I suspect that, due to the congested airspace at the time, the Blackhawk pilot was looking at another plane and mistook it for the CRJ.
Total arm-chairing here but yeah, I think he was looking at the aircraft farther out, ahead of him, and not the CRJ to his left turning for final. He essentially t-boned the plane
We will be on this Investigation for as long as it takes
what is that noise that sounds like someone breathing?
Think it's the big guy with white hair...
This will be a whole of government approach
manifest is needed.
Skip to 5:27 to get past the long introduction by the helpful blonde.