Disagree. It is not the apocalypse even for them. They are giving into fear porn.
They didn't even lose everything they own in a flood or fire! All they have to do is change jobs! Who hasn't had to do that a few times? HA!
They can do it. They are still indulging in self-pity, in the denial anger etc stages. If they don't think they are capable of getting a different job, they were NOT capable of being decent federal employees!
They worked for US! And they have been getting paid, according to their own estimation now, much more than they were worth!
Not to mention that they're getting a free flippin' ride for the entire summer and into fall. I get it, though. Losing an easy paycheck would suck.
Federal employees outlast presidents by miles, too. Change is hard, no matter where it comes from. I have a theory, too:
The financial world is about to get a massive shake-up that will benefit humanity, and that's why there's never any mention (that I've seen) about the economic impact of multiple tens of thousands of people suddenly out of work..
and will have to teach themselves how to fish, instead of being handed a paycheck and generous retirement with the expectation of food, housing, benefits and spending money FOR LIFE! FAR more than the taxpayers could ever expect!
Yup, and also they have to realize their college studies in political science, social studies, everything even medical are based on textbooks by the Rothschild, Rockefellers, and that's why they're indoctrinated to this point.. mind filled with garbage and no critical thinking to see they have been lied to, no moral compass to see what the swamp did with USAID and corruption is wrong. These people have to start from ground up again with an empty glass
It may be painful in the beginning but liberating and healthier in all aspects in the long run.
I agree with you on the financial shake up. I don’t have anything to back it up, it just seems like something that has been hinted at for awhile. Something people aren’t expecting that will be in the positive.
I'm not defending the situation at all. But I don't think there are half a million jobs in the DC area for these people to take. Especially not at the salaries they are making. It's going to break the economy in DC in so many ways. Restarting for these people is not going to be that easy. They should have taken the buy out.
I agree with you on that last point -- many folks SHOULD have opted for the deferred resignation offers, but there were SOOO many naysayers (esp the fed gov't unions) engaging in fear porn and "Don't trust President Musk!" propaganda, that many were scared off.
In the end, only about 3-4% of the entire fed gov't workforce opted to take the DR offer...thought I read in recent weeks that the White House was hoping to get numbers in the 10-20% range with that offer.
Regardless, now the cuts/RIFs begin in earnest...they already have this week. And to your point, I know at least a couple people who now wish they'd jumped on that DR offer.
I think that's a great suggestion, too. Trump and team are absolutely determined to weed out the deadwood in fed gov't employment. And as a fed gov't employee myself...I 110% support my president with that initiative.
I’m from DC and still have a lot of friends who work for Gov there. Everyone is secure with their jobs from what I can tell, most of them are at the Pentagon. Will know more next weekend after FBI friend visits.
We live here. We don't have the connections any more because, well, we're old. We do know a lot of retirees but they know my politics and I don't think they'll approach me with complaints. (Grin)
I'm still in DoD, at least until currently planned retirement of March 2026. I'm hearing of a lot of probationary folks being let go across many non-DoD agencies this past week. Not much of any news about or within DoD...YET. But all DoD agencies were put on notice beginning of this past week to come up with a downsizing/RIF plan within 30 days, and though my particular agency's HR dept has been notoriously silent this past week...I think more news/details is a'coming soon on that topic.
Are you GS or contractor? My GS friends in DOD don't seem worried. Most are 15s or SES/SIS. Most are within a few years of retirement - double dippers.
Disagree. It is not the apocalypse even for them. They are giving into fear porn.
They didn't even lose everything they own in a flood or fire! All they have to do is change jobs! Who hasn't had to do that a few times? HA!
They can do it. They are still indulging in self-pity, in the denial anger etc stages. If they don't think they are capable of getting a different job, they were NOT capable of being decent federal employees!
They worked for US! And they have been getting paid, according to their own estimation now, much more than they were worth!
Not to mention that they're getting a free flippin' ride for the entire summer and into fall. I get it, though. Losing an easy paycheck would suck.
Federal employees outlast presidents by miles, too. Change is hard, no matter where it comes from. I have a theory, too:
The financial world is about to get a massive shake-up that will benefit humanity, and that's why there's never any mention (that I've seen) about the economic impact of multiple tens of thousands of people suddenly out of work..
and will have to teach themselves how to fish, instead of being handed a paycheck and generous retirement with the expectation of food, housing, benefits and spending money FOR LIFE! FAR more than the taxpayers could ever expect!
Yup, and also they have to realize their college studies in political science, social studies, everything even medical are based on textbooks by the Rothschild, Rockefellers, and that's why they're indoctrinated to this point.. mind filled with garbage and no critical thinking to see they have been lied to, no moral compass to see what the swamp did with USAID and corruption is wrong. These people have to start from ground up again with an empty glass It may be painful in the beginning but liberating and healthier in all aspects in the long run.
I agree with you on the financial shake up. I don’t have anything to back it up, it just seems like something that has been hinted at for awhile. Something people aren’t expecting that will be in the positive.
NCSWIC
"All they have to do is change jobs!"
I'm not defending the situation at all. But I don't think there are half a million jobs in the DC area for these people to take. Especially not at the salaries they are making. It's going to break the economy in DC in so many ways. Restarting for these people is not going to be that easy. They should have taken the buy out.
Some people crossed the Atlantic in sailing ships to get a better job.
DC is an expensive, congested place to live. Steamy hot and humid in summer, no one can drive in rain or snow.
The only reason they DO live there is because of the government jobs!
I agree with you on that last point -- many folks SHOULD have opted for the deferred resignation offers, but there were SOOO many naysayers (esp the fed gov't unions) engaging in fear porn and "Don't trust President Musk!" propaganda, that many were scared off.
In the end, only about 3-4% of the entire fed gov't workforce opted to take the DR offer...thought I read in recent weeks that the White House was hoping to get numbers in the 10-20% range with that offer.
Regardless, now the cuts/RIFs begin in earnest...they already have this week. And to your point, I know at least a couple people who now wish they'd jumped on that DR offer.
They should do another round, at a lower number and less attractive terms… give more people a chance to get out now that the writing is on the wall.
I think that's a great suggestion, too. Trump and team are absolutely determined to weed out the deadwood in fed gov't employment. And as a fed gov't employee myself...I 110% support my president with that initiative.
And tell them if they dont take it this time the next offer is no severance and 180 days of COBRA at 10 times the going rate for insurance.
I bet not all of them live in DC. You have federal offices all over the country, plus teleworkers who don't even live near DC.
I am not seeing that. True, I haven't spent a lot of time with the natives of .McLean and Chevy Chase, but life is proceeding.
I’m from DC and still have a lot of friends who work for Gov there. Everyone is secure with their jobs from what I can tell, most of them are at the Pentagon. Will know more next weekend after FBI friend visits.
We live here. We don't have the connections any more because, well, we're old. We do know a lot of retirees but they know my politics and I don't think they'll approach me with complaints. (Grin)
I'm still in DoD, at least until currently planned retirement of March 2026. I'm hearing of a lot of probationary folks being let go across many non-DoD agencies this past week. Not much of any news about or within DoD...YET. But all DoD agencies were put on notice beginning of this past week to come up with a downsizing/RIF plan within 30 days, and though my particular agency's HR dept has been notoriously silent this past week...I think more news/details is a'coming soon on that topic.
1 year to go, good luck.
Of course early retirement ain't bad.
I hope you make it.
:)
Id make a 10 minute powerpoint presentation to prove your worthiness, lol. Sounds like you did your job though. Best of luck brother.
Are you GS or contractor? My GS friends in DOD don't seem worried. Most are 15s or SES/SIS. Most are within a few years of retirement - double dippers.
My son was furloughed from the state department. He went to work 5 days a week. It's wrong to paint all federal workers with a broad brush.
No we absolutely do NOT want to equate all federal employees with the worst of them!