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ICYMI - brain_dead's post on the 16th Amendment... Leaked 1985 Letter from IRS Commissioner EXPOSES the 16th Amendment as a FRAUD – Income Tax Was NEVER Legal! $330 TRILLION STOLEN – WE MUST FIGHT BACK (twitter.com) 🚔 Crimes Of RINO’s & Democrats 💸
posted 1 year ago by ashlanddog 1 year ago by ashlanddog +291 / -0
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– winn 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Might want to read this. It looks like someone tried it already and got railed

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-7887/87908/20190213113417802_00000007.pdf

Petition denied https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/18-7887.html

https://centre.telemanage.ca/links.nsf/articles/E63F37D3412AC38085256969004BDAEE

Another case https://casetext.com/case/us-v-lloyd-12

A book https://archive.org/details/fedzone11

Much moar here https://www.supremelaw.org/copyrite/buildfreedom.com/tl16f.htm

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– Standingoak 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

You mean as long as the courts are corrupt too , we are still screwed ?

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– Rebooted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Always been that way. Might makes right.

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– Standingoak 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Famous quotes from ransacked castles ?

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– Infidel440 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I dunno, this guy hasn’t paid taxes in years and shows everyone else what forms to send IRS depending on what letter you get from them. He’s got a video blog too. http://www.tax-freedom.com/

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– tstr 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

losthorizons.com process works. I know personally that it works.

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– kaizen777 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Personally as in you follow it? Good for you, I'm a scaredy cat.

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– tstr 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Personally as in I have the letters and the returns from the IRS proving it.

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– winn 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Good Lord that website is a fossil. Kek. Right on, just be careful how you do it. The guy from my link got slapped with 18 months prison time and had to serve it. Make sure your affairs are in order just in case

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– Furecrotch 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

did he go to jail for his taxes or because he was sharing his methods with everyone else? it matters because the irs would rather let a few slip through the cracks but if you try to widen that crack so others can fall through then youre making yourself a target.

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– winn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The first link to Mr. Roberts case is just one guy who was trying to get out of paying taxes by challenging the 16th amendment. The second case I did not read through but that's the the guy who was teaching others. You'd have to read it to see what happened

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– SwampRangers 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

$6 for a 35-page booklet is usually called "paytriotism". It won't do to charge "subversion of both law and Constitution", "lack of statutory subjectivity", and "the federal government (I.R.S. & D.O.J.) has ignored, misapplied, and misused the provisions of the statutes". It wrongly holds that the income tax is a direct tax, but the Supremes decide what is a direct tax under objective decisions and they said, no, the income tax is in the nature of an excise.

The fact that out of hundreds of millions of filers, a few have claimed income tax is direct tax and gotten refunds, is insufficient. The only recourse is knowing the law (and applicable case law) and following it to the letter, not claiming that the law and Scotus are wrong. The IRS intends, usually successfully, to prosecute those who make frivolous arguments, which include this direct tax argument, and they usually come back after a few years with enforcement. Therefore one must take refuge in the law rather than fight it, and must learn why the principles of the law and Constitution are still upheld even as mismanagement and deception allow much tax money to be paid voluntarily by those who do not take the step of learning the law on their rights to avoid excise taxes.

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– Infidel440 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Whatever you say about his methods and argument, the fact he’s stayed out of jail for the past 15 or so years shows he knows what he’s talking about and his response letters work. I’ve read reviews from people who’ve used the response forms who have gotten the IRS off their backs as well.

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– SwampRangers 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Staying out of jail 15 years is not an unlocked achievement in this field, I've stayed out of jail 20 years now after joining the game. Neither liberty nor good reviews prove that response letters work, only remedy proves that. The IRS doesn't enforce against everyone whom it considers lawless. If a reviewer shows that the IRS has not only gone silent on its claims but also acknowledged the reviewer's claims then it might have a bit of credibility, but even then cases are usually individual and require much filtering due to the high mania level that produces so many counterfeits. Be safe and be moral: pay the legally required taxes on your income, don't argue against the law or against Scotus. (There's an exception, namely if you sincerely believe the Constitution and Scotus are wrong, but that's a very high bar and nobody I've seen has reached it except maybe the Confederacy.)

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