A lot of people seemed confused a few days ago when POTUS turned off all money, military and supplies and then turned them back on again.
Why is he turning it back on!? Why!? Why!? Why!?
He turned ALL it off to SHOW Ukraine, NATO, AND Russia, that POTUS holds all the cards.
Royal Flush.
Once Z agreed to the ceasefire, Trump turned it all back on so he could finish negotiations with Putin, holding his powerful hand.
All Trump had to say to Rutte yesterday was
Do you want me to turn it all off again for good? I can. You can do this all yourself if you want to.
That's all he has to say to NATO, EU, UK, France, Ukraine, all of them.
And that is just the status quo.
What could Trump say to Putin?
Vlad, we're friends. It's in both of our country's best interest to get along. If you don't end this war now, we're going to wipe your forces out in Ukraine. It will take us 48 hours to glass every stronghold you have. Then we're going to ask Ukraine to join NATO. Then we're going to put Nukes on your doorstep. You so much as flinch in the future, and we'll wipe Moscow out. But you don't want any of that. I don't want that either. It's much better if we're friends. Let's get to peace, and we'll keep Ukraine out of NATO for good.
This is all IMO, I also think that POTUS struck a deal with Putin before he did with Z. With all of the stupid antics that Z was pulling with his 4-times-agreed-to-mineral-deal, I bet Putin said to Trump, "If you can get that imbicile to agree to a ceasefire first, I will too."
Ain’t nobody gonna talk to Russia like that mock up post you made. Can’t be friends when your being threatened. Russia is fighting for survival. Been pushed into a corner for decades and is punching out. Threatening them at this point just ruins what decent negotiations we’ve had. Russia understands America’s position. We’re both fighting a deepstate. Putin has called this out publicly. And Russia has been very public to warning those who get in the way of their survival and safety of their people. America and Russia want the same things. We just got some trash to get rid of first.
This makes sense to me. I think Trump respects Putin, and I think Putin respects Trump. They are two grownups amongst a world full of toddlers throwing tantrums. Given how this went down, I do think MAGA_Patriot is right that Trump and Putin had some sort of agreement before things went into motion, but I can't buy that Trump basically threatened Russia's existence to get cooperation when that is literally the only reason they made a move in the first place. You don't attack a cornered bear... unless you want to be lunch.
My comment slid from serious to trying to be witty about Trump supposedly telling Putin he would take the beautiful domes off his head (attacking Moscow) if he ever invaded Ukraine. It was a supposed threat that Putin said he never heard, and Foreign Minister Lavrov considered to be "just a figure of speech" while campaigning for president.
Excellent post. Primarily the first half. Chapeau.
I do agree though that Trump would not talk to Putin like that, because he doesn't need to do so. Putin knows our capabilities. Putin might also see it as an empty threat as well, which would cause it to backfire.
It is far more effective to reach out to Putin and say that we want a strong partnership with Russia for a host of reasons, and to remind Russia that, once, we saved them all with munitions. And we want to rebuild our blood bond on the site of Stalingrad/Volgograd, to remind ourselves and show the world that this is the new Golden Age.
I want Trump and Putin to shake hands on that soil. To show the vampires that this evil fraud they have perpetrated for over 100 years is OVER.
A lot of people seemed confused a few days ago when POTUS turned off all money, military and supplies and then turned them back on again.
Why is he turning it back on!? Why!? Why!? Why!?
He turned ALL it off to SHOW Ukraine, NATO, AND Russia, that POTUS holds all the cards.
Royal Flush.
Once Z agreed to the ceasefire, Trump turned it all back on so he could finish negotiations with Putin, holding his powerful hand.
All Trump had to say to Rutte yesterday was
That's all he has to say to NATO, EU, UK, France, Ukraine, all of them.
And that is just the status quo.
What could Trump say to Putin?
This is all IMO, I also think that POTUS struck a deal with Putin before he did with Z. With all of the stupid antics that Z was pulling with his 4-times-agreed-to-mineral-deal, I bet Putin said to Trump, "If you can get that imbicile to agree to a ceasefire first, I will too."
To which Trump said, "Hold my Diet Coke."
Ain’t nobody gonna talk to Russia like that mock up post you made. Can’t be friends when your being threatened. Russia is fighting for survival. Been pushed into a corner for decades and is punching out. Threatening them at this point just ruins what decent negotiations we’ve had. Russia understands America’s position. We’re both fighting a deepstate. Putin has called this out publicly. And Russia has been very public to warning those who get in the way of their survival and safety of their people. America and Russia want the same things. We just got some trash to get rid of first.
This makes sense to me. I think Trump respects Putin, and I think Putin respects Trump. They are two grownups amongst a world full of toddlers throwing tantrums. Given how this went down, I do think MAGA_Patriot is right that Trump and Putin had some sort of agreement before things went into motion, but I can't buy that Trump basically threatened Russia's existence to get cooperation when that is literally the only reason they made a move in the first place. You don't attack a cornered bear... unless you want to be lunch.
I agree with you u/Cyberhawk, u/marvinthehaggler, and u/HereComesTrouble that POTUS would not talk to Putin like that.
My comment slid from serious to trying to be witty about Trump supposedly telling Putin he would take the beautiful domes off his head (attacking Moscow) if he ever invaded Ukraine. It was a supposed threat that Putin said he never heard, and Foreign Minister Lavrov considered to be "just a figure of speech" while campaigning for president.
I agree we've been on the same side for some time against the powers of evil in high places.
Excellent post. Primarily the first half. Chapeau.
I do agree though that Trump would not talk to Putin like that, because he doesn't need to do so. Putin knows our capabilities. Putin might also see it as an empty threat as well, which would cause it to backfire.
It is far more effective to reach out to Putin and say that we want a strong partnership with Russia for a host of reasons, and to remind Russia that, once, we saved them all with munitions. And we want to rebuild our blood bond on the site of Stalingrad/Volgograd, to remind ourselves and show the world that this is the new Golden Age.
I want Trump and Putin to shake hands on that soil. To show the vampires that this evil fraud they have perpetrated for over 100 years is OVER.
Sarsaparilla.