…sigh…apparently you haven’t read the scriptures. I have heard all the arguments and reasons you people hate Israel. Plus you keep moving the goalposts.
“Ancient Israel is not modern Israel.” Sez who? That’s a talking point that no one has ever sauced.
The term “zionism” has been hijacked. God uses the term Zion in the Bible. Lots. Is there a cabal bent on conquest? There is one in almost every country.
Jesus rebukes lots of people. God has made many promises to Israel and his people. God cannot lie. He will never abandon His chosen people. Will he punish and correct? Yes. As he does many nations and peoples.
If God shanks his promises to Israel, then His promises to the followers of Jesus (and the world) are null and void also. So then, what’s the point?
The Jews didn’t kill Jesus. Technically the Romans did. But Jesus said no one takes His life, he lay it down willingly. Jesus chose to suffer and die.
Who really killed Jesus? You did. I did. We all did because he died for our sins, to save us from hell. And that we may have life with Him eternal.
Stop believing everything you read…except the Bible. It is the only truth that exists. God doesn’t lie…but man does.
Doesn’t matter how much you bring up, some people just want to hate Jews.
Most likely, everyone who “picks a side” is wrong.
“Ancient Israel is not modern Israel.” Sez who? That’s a talking point that no one has ever sauced.
Statement is neither true nor false, but partially both. MAG has several good posts laying out some issues. I don’t necessarily agree with him in full, but his comments seem to be in play, at the least.
Who really killed Jesus? You did. I did. We all did because he died for our sins, to save us from hell.
100%. Anyone who says otherwise either doesn’t understand salvation or is trying to trick people out of accepting it. Not a good set of options for someone to be.
"The Jews didn’t kill Jesus. Technically the Romans did. But Jesus said no one takes His life, he lay it down willingly. Jesus chose to suffer and die.
"Who really killed Jesus? You did. I did. We all did because he died for our sins, to save us from hell. And that we may have life with Him eternal."
I have a technical nit to pick here. If Jesus chose to suffer and die, then you and I didn't kill him anymore than the Jews or Romans did. You shouldn't' say Jesus laid his life down willingly and then say you and I killed him because it can't be both. He loved us before we loved him, and my sins and yours weren't even committed yet when he died. He died for our sins, but he did it WILLINGLY.
Thats some good pilpul. I noticed how you didnt address Epstein being mossad, or the Rothschilds, or bring up anything else like the Balfour Declaration. Weird!
What does that have to do with scripture? Epstein is Mossad; so what?
Would you still be foaming at the mouth if he was Swedish or from Spain? Or do you just hate Jews cuz it’s the popular thing to do right now?
(And you think you have all the answers and know everything cuz you read the internet?)
There have been bad/evil people of every race and nation…hellbent on the destruction of people and world domination over the centuries.
The Balfour Declaration 🙄 Another talking point. There is a lot of speculation on how it came about, who really wanted it. Again, doesn’t matter. God was fulling scripture and prophecy.
As for pilpul (whatever that means)…I notice you didn’t sauce your statement about modern Jews in Israel today not being the ancient Jews of the Bible (para). Cuz you can’t. Weird!
If he was a Spanish supremacist saying every other race are animals that exist to serve them I would have a major problem with that.
Every mention of Jews in the bible is actually Judeans according to the greek translation. Modern jews are edomites not judeans. Thats why Jesus says in revelation 3 9 "those who say they are judeans, but are not, and do lie". King Herod was an edomite.
The linguistic deception is transparent now. And no, im not "hating" on jews cause its popular right now. I woke up to the zionist influence a decade ago.
Yet lets not forget what God says "Judge not, and you will not be judged, condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you be forgiven" Luke 6:37
Ok, let's not forget Jesus', words in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.
Revelation 2:9 ESV
[9] “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty ( but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 ESV
[9] Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
Or the beloved apostle John in 1 John 2:22
1 John 2:22-23 ESV
[22] Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. [23] No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.
Timelines are important when reading the bible. There was a time in biblical history that the Jews were Gods chosen people because everyone else was worshipping Pagan Gods. He made promises to them but those promises had conditions. The Jews did not live up to the conditions and turned their back on God and also started worshipping Pagan Gods. That is when he sent Jesus and a new covenant was made but this time it was for all people including the Gentiles. Many Jews believed in Jesus and broke away from calling themselves Jews and started calling themselves Christians along with many Pagan worshippers. The non-believing Jews were the ones that had Jesus killed because they were given the choice on who to save. They chose to save Barabus and crucify Jesus. Everyone had 40 years after Jesus died to hear the Gospel. They were warned over and over to flee to the mountains and stay away from Jerusalem when they saw the Romans start to march on the city. The Christians took the warning but the Jews that rejected Jesus stayed and were killed by the Roman army in 70AD. That was the end of times and the end of the age for the Jewish people that the bible was warning about. It was the end of the covenant that God had made with the Jews. The Jews of today and the Zionist are trying to claim they are the true blood line of Abraham. How is that even possible? Throughout the Bible it exposed how the Jews had intermarriages with the Pagans and anyone can convert to Judaism who wants to. God calls out the pretend Jews here:
Revelation 3:9
King James Version
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
If Christians would take the time as I have and read the Talmud, they would understand who these people really worship. It clearly states that they worship Moloh and they still reject and hate Jesus and they hate everyone that believes in Jesus. The new covenant and the current chosen people are anyone on this planet that calls Jesus our Lord and Savior.
Israel was "chosen" to represent God to the nations on this earth and the Jews were chosen to bring forth the Messiah which they did. They rejected Jesus as the Messiah which opened the way for the Gentiles to come into the blessings and promises God made to Abraham (Romans 9-11). The "times of the Gentiles" will continue through the church age but when the times of the Gentiles is over--the church is complete---God will then work with the Jews and Israel once again during the 7 year Tribulation.
God will work with those not covered with the BlOOD of Jesus. In Tribulation the 144,000 will be given a 'second' chance, because they are His "Chosen", but will be by their own blood, that leads them back through the Gates of Heaven, to be with Jesus Christ their Messiah.
Well, of course they are. It's always been about the Jews. Jesus Christ sacrificed himself so we could be saved. People need to read scripture. I realize that in the end times the world will turn against Israel and hate the Jews - don't be among those foolish enough to do so.
I have been wondering if the Jews are still God’s chosen people since the Jews didn’t convert to Christianity as they missed the Messiah that was promised to them in the Old Testament
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Whereas, those that converted after Christ’s death along with the Gentiles who became the early Christians continued on as God’s Chosen people
That's racial supremacy talk.
So what? God did choose the Jews for his purposes, to bring the Gospel to the world and will set up His earthly kingdom in Israel.
Have you read the talmud?
Oh ffs. Typical.
Have you read the Bible? Cuz what I wrote is in scripture, God’s word, inspired by the Holy Spirit.
The Talmud was written by men.
Ancient Israel is not modern Israel, and modern jews are not israelites. Zionism is jewish supremacy that seeks to enslave us all.
Jesus in the bible rebukes these people. They are the ones who killed him.
The rothschilds are the zionist brains behind modern Israel. Epstein was mossad.
…sigh…apparently you haven’t read the scriptures. I have heard all the arguments and reasons you people hate Israel. Plus you keep moving the goalposts.
“Ancient Israel is not modern Israel.” Sez who? That’s a talking point that no one has ever sauced.
The term “zionism” has been hijacked. God uses the term Zion in the Bible. Lots. Is there a cabal bent on conquest? There is one in almost every country.
Jesus rebukes lots of people. God has made many promises to Israel and his people. God cannot lie. He will never abandon His chosen people. Will he punish and correct? Yes. As he does many nations and peoples.
If God shanks his promises to Israel, then His promises to the followers of Jesus (and the world) are null and void also. So then, what’s the point?
The Jews didn’t kill Jesus. Technically the Romans did. But Jesus said no one takes His life, he lay it down willingly. Jesus chose to suffer and die.
Who really killed Jesus? You did. I did. We all did because he died for our sins, to save us from hell. And that we may have life with Him eternal.
Stop believing everything you read…except the Bible. It is the only truth that exists. God doesn’t lie…but man does.
Doesn’t matter how much you bring up, some people just want to hate Jews.
Most likely, everyone who “picks a side” is wrong.
Statement is neither true nor false, but partially both. MAG has several good posts laying out some issues. I don’t necessarily agree with him in full, but his comments seem to be in play, at the least.
100%. Anyone who says otherwise either doesn’t understand salvation or is trying to trick people out of accepting it. Not a good set of options for someone to be.
“…some people just want to hate the Jews.”
Ya, I know. I don’t normally engage the haters but it gets old and there needs to be occasional pushback.
I push back when it feels genuine, and potentially open to consideration, which does seem to be the case at times.
If someone is calling you “pilpul” (which is, a “sophistic shill”), they’re probably not going to engage constructively.
"The Jews didn’t kill Jesus. Technically the Romans did. But Jesus said no one takes His life, he lay it down willingly. Jesus chose to suffer and die.
"Who really killed Jesus? You did. I did. We all did because he died for our sins, to save us from hell. And that we may have life with Him eternal."
I have a technical nit to pick here. If Jesus chose to suffer and die, then you and I didn't kill him anymore than the Jews or Romans did. You shouldn't' say Jesus laid his life down willingly and then say you and I killed him because it can't be both. He loved us before we loved him, and my sins and yours weren't even committed yet when he died. He died for our sins, but he did it WILLINGLY.
It can be both.
What if you robbed a bank? You were going to be jailed for life and they were going to burn your house down.
What if I offered to take your life sentence and have my house burned down?
Did you rob the bank? Yes. Did I willingly take your punishment? Yes.
If we had not sinned, then Jesus would not have had to take our place.
The point is he did it WILLINGLY. I'm not going to argue about banks and burning houses.
Thats some good pilpul. I noticed how you didnt address Epstein being mossad, or the Rothschilds, or bring up anything else like the Balfour Declaration. Weird!
What does that have to do with scripture? Epstein is Mossad; so what?
Would you still be foaming at the mouth if he was Swedish or from Spain? Or do you just hate Jews cuz it’s the popular thing to do right now? (And you think you have all the answers and know everything cuz you read the internet?)
There have been bad/evil people of every race and nation…hellbent on the destruction of people and world domination over the centuries.
The Balfour Declaration 🙄 Another talking point. There is a lot of speculation on how it came about, who really wanted it. Again, doesn’t matter. God was fulling scripture and prophecy.
As for pilpul (whatever that means)…I notice you didn’t sauce your statement about modern Jews in Israel today not being the ancient Jews of the Bible (para). Cuz you can’t. Weird!
You want truth? Read your Bible. Later…
If he was a Spanish supremacist saying every other race are animals that exist to serve them I would have a major problem with that.
Every mention of Jews in the bible is actually Judeans according to the greek translation. Modern jews are edomites not judeans. Thats why Jesus says in revelation 3 9 "those who say they are judeans, but are not, and do lie". King Herod was an edomite.
The linguistic deception is transparent now. And no, im not "hating" on jews cause its popular right now. I woke up to the zionist influence a decade ago.
Epstein—> Mossad, looks like he was CIA and possibly FBI Rothschild—->Edomites/Idumea - not Jews, research The Everlasting Hatred.
Both the FBI and CIA have strings to mossad. Epstein was photographed wearing an IDF sweater lol. Hes a jew. Robert Maxwell was mossad too.
Genesis 10. Ashkenazi are not related to the twelve tribes. Ashkenazi come from Noah's son Japheth like most Europeans. Israelites come from Shem.
Tell me, do you know why Jacob got the name "Israel"?
And what does the Kingdom of Israel mean in scripture?
And Jesus died for their sins too.
Yet they chose (choose) to reject him. Lets not forget what Jesus says in Matthew 7:21-23.
Yet lets not forget what God says "Judge not, and you will not be judged, condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you be forgiven" Luke 6:37
Ok, let's not forget Jesus', words in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.
Revelation 2:9 ESV [9] “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty ( but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 ESV [9] Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
Or the beloved apostle John in 1 John 2:22
1 John 2:22-23 ESV [22] Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. [23] No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.
Timelines are important when reading the bible. There was a time in biblical history that the Jews were Gods chosen people because everyone else was worshipping Pagan Gods. He made promises to them but those promises had conditions. The Jews did not live up to the conditions and turned their back on God and also started worshipping Pagan Gods. That is when he sent Jesus and a new covenant was made but this time it was for all people including the Gentiles. Many Jews believed in Jesus and broke away from calling themselves Jews and started calling themselves Christians along with many Pagan worshippers. The non-believing Jews were the ones that had Jesus killed because they were given the choice on who to save. They chose to save Barabus and crucify Jesus. Everyone had 40 years after Jesus died to hear the Gospel. They were warned over and over to flee to the mountains and stay away from Jerusalem when they saw the Romans start to march on the city. The Christians took the warning but the Jews that rejected Jesus stayed and were killed by the Roman army in 70AD. That was the end of times and the end of the age for the Jewish people that the bible was warning about. It was the end of the covenant that God had made with the Jews. The Jews of today and the Zionist are trying to claim they are the true blood line of Abraham. How is that even possible? Throughout the Bible it exposed how the Jews had intermarriages with the Pagans and anyone can convert to Judaism who wants to. God calls out the pretend Jews here: Revelation 3:9
King James Version
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
If Christians would take the time as I have and read the Talmud, they would understand who these people really worship. It clearly states that they worship Moloh and they still reject and hate Jesus and they hate everyone that believes in Jesus. The new covenant and the current chosen people are anyone on this planet that calls Jesus our Lord and Savior.
You mean the Edomites, the Idumeans?
Israel was "chosen" to represent God to the nations on this earth and the Jews were chosen to bring forth the Messiah which they did. They rejected Jesus as the Messiah which opened the way for the Gentiles to come into the blessings and promises God made to Abraham (Romans 9-11). The "times of the Gentiles" will continue through the church age but when the times of the Gentiles is over--the church is complete---God will then work with the Jews and Israel once again during the 7 year Tribulation.
God will work with those not covered with the BlOOD of Jesus. In Tribulation the 144,000 will be given a 'second' chance, because they are His "Chosen", but will be by their own blood, that leads them back through the Gates of Heaven, to be with Jesus Christ their Messiah.
So do all jews go to heaven since they are 'chosen'? Or just the ones that put their faith in Jesus. So just what are they chosen for?
Serious question?
Hopefully, you will know "The awareness of the TRUTH". Only the Spirit can answer that question for you. God bless
The chosen people sure whiffed on the whole Jesus thing 2000 years ago.
Closer to 1850 years ago. A lot of them converted early on. Why did they stop?
Christians desperately need to get better educated on early church history. It’s very relevant today.
He doesn’t realize that the Jews running Israel today are NOT the descendants of Abraham.
He is a shabbos goy, they most likely give him money to serve their agenda
lol…I make sooo much money!
Judaism is a perversion of Christianity. My Christianity has no judeo in it.
Well, of course they are. It's always been about the Jews. Jesus Christ sacrificed himself so we could be saved. People need to read scripture. I realize that in the end times the world will turn against Israel and hate the Jews - don't be among those foolish enough to do so.
Yes, they were chosen, but they failed in their mission, which is why they are superannuated. Done.
Sick.
I have been wondering if the Jews are still God’s chosen people since the Jews didn’t convert to Christianity as they missed the Messiah that was promised to them in the Old Testament .
Whereas, those that converted after Christ’s death along with the Gentiles who became the early Christians continued on as God’s Chosen people
So are Christian’s now God’s chosen people?
OK, except those Jews occupying Israel are not the ones in the bible.Completely different peoples.