My family uses cotton or linen almost exclusively. When you do your laundry use borax and a non scented detergent. The chemical perfumes in most laundry detergent are major endocrine disruptors.
Up until relatively recently it was effectively illegal to grow in the United States. So it probably doesn’t readily occur to most people as of yet as an alternative. Given it’s only been legal about less than 10 years.
Also from what I found looking online quite a few people find the resulting fabric from most methods of processing it uncomfortable to wear. Which is another point against it. So it’s not likely to come up in most discussions regarding fabric alternatives for clothes. Unless they develop a different processing method.
Though it does have utility as an alternative to canvas or other similar packaging materials.
A lot of clothes are made with a hemp/cotton blend to placate the soft, spoiled masses. I had a heavy winter coat made that way (no pure hemp coats on the market at that time) that was still awesome. Pure hemp clothes can last for generations and I think they get more comfortable over the years.
It's not widely available and the doc doing the study was using an experimental design intended to inform clinical decision making. So, he chose options that were commonly available on the market and widely worn among his patients.
I suppose if his patients had all been Portland area vegan-hipster potheads, he might have included hemp, but hemp is still barely legal in the US (the definitions about THC content limits end up making it a logistical pain in the butt to grow commercially).
Bible says not to wear mixed fibers, but that’s Old Testament, so paying attention to it “would be legalistic” even though it’s breathed straight from the mouth of God and all good for teaching and admonishment. 😁
Didn’t pretty much everybody wear mostly cotton before the 90’s?
The bible says not to mix wool and linen: Leviticus 19:19 and more specifically Deuteronomy 22:11. There is a very good reason not to mix wool and linen and probably most other fabrics as well.
Look up doctor Heidi Yellen. She did a study on fabric mixing in 2003.
I do MMA and Brazilian jujitsu and all the rash guards are polyester or nylon. I always absolutely hated the feel. I now feel justified and wearing cotton rash guards
Yeah, and I'm a very sweaty person. I still refer prefer it to polyester or nylon. I've tried bamboo and hemp, bamboo's nice but cotton has probably the easiest to get
I have a smooth brain, but in my line of work "poly" means plastic, and "ester" means petroleum based. Not sure how it relates here but I just said it anyways.
Plastics were invented long before this research was done. The 3 studies cited here were published in 1992, 1993, and 2008 for reference. Polyester was invented in 1941 and widely marketed by DuPont starting in the 1950s.
If you look at textile companies today and ask them why they choose to use it, or Spandex, or Lycra, or nylon, or any of the others, they'll describe the particular properties of the fibers that make their products better. If you are making yoga pants for example (Lululemon got into trouble with this ~10 years ago), you need something which is stretchy, but which does not thin when stretched. A few years after coming to widespread popularity, Lulu switched to a Chinese manufacturer who got clever about cutting costs and changed the fiber mix. Lulu ended up buying and reselling yoga pants that when women went into "down dog" or "dragonfly" (straddle) or certain other positions in class, the fabric in the crotch made your undergarments (or lack thereof) visible. Lawsuits were filed. Outrage was swift. Lulu switched that shit in a hurry and refunded recent purchases to make it right with their customers. They use what they use so the products looks good, feels good, washes clean, doesn't smell, performs through intended use and wear and tear, etc. They're trying to sell products we want to buy and wear.
I guarantee you practically no one knows about this fertility issue unless you're a GYN or GU specialist or you've been a patient seeking fertility treatments to try and conceive.
Poly means many. Ester refers to the specific chemical bond. What makes it a plastic is the specific monomers, the individual parts that get bonded together to make the chain.
Look up, if you're curious, the 7 most common plastics in the US, the ones in the numbered recycle symbols. Only 2 of them are actually recyclable. The labeling is deliberately deceptive. The plastic industry did that specifically to give people the impression it was recyclable, even though it wasn't. They told regulators that a universal symbol was necessary and that industry could work out waste disposal processes for plastics as long as they were numbered and identified. True, but deceptive.
Anyway, if you look at the names, you'll see they're all "poly" something. They're all chains of the various alkanes (the chemical name for the base links in that chain).
I'm 40 and have lower testosterone and noticed that my morning wood was happening a lot less often. I stopped wearing polyester underwear about 2 months ago, and after a few weeks it's like I'm 18 again. Waiting to get levels rechecked to see if actual levels have improved.
Polyester can indeed render men infertile. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1623716/ I'd like to see the prevalence of polyester underwear before and after this study.
Fact check warning! Ahmed Shafik the author of this damning paper https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1623716/ received an Ig Nobel Prize, not a Nobel Prize. There's a difference. Seems like a mistake that AI would make.
Of the 4 healthiest fibers for wearing why do you suppose hemp wasn't listed?
Also Linen...linen clothing, bed linen... everything!
My family uses cotton or linen almost exclusively. When you do your laundry use borax and a non scented detergent. The chemical perfumes in most laundry detergent are major endocrine disruptors.
Agreed! And I use Borax also for laundry.
Up until relatively recently it was effectively illegal to grow in the United States. So it probably doesn’t readily occur to most people as of yet as an alternative. Given it’s only been legal about less than 10 years.
Also from what I found looking online quite a few people find the resulting fabric from most methods of processing it uncomfortable to wear. Which is another point against it. So it’s not likely to come up in most discussions regarding fabric alternatives for clothes. Unless they develop a different processing method.
Though it does have utility as an alternative to canvas or other similar packaging materials.
A lot of clothes are made with a hemp/cotton blend to placate the soft, spoiled masses. I had a heavy winter coat made that way (no pure hemp coats on the market at that time) that was still awesome. Pure hemp clothes can last for generations and I think they get more comfortable over the years.
Sounds like denim (the real deal denim, not the stretch blends that own the market).
I suppose it is too "high"! Kek
It's not widely available and the doc doing the study was using an experimental design intended to inform clinical decision making. So, he chose options that were commonly available on the market and widely worn among his patients.
I suppose if his patients had all been Portland area vegan-hipster potheads, he might have included hemp, but hemp is still barely legal in the US (the definitions about THC content limits end up making it a logistical pain in the butt to grow commercially).
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/hemp-production-by-state
Bible says not to wear mixed fibers, but that’s Old Testament, so paying attention to it “would be legalistic” even though it’s breathed straight from the mouth of God and all good for teaching and admonishment. 😁
Didn’t pretty much everybody wear mostly cotton before the 90’s?
The bible says not to mix wool and linen: Leviticus 19:19 and more specifically Deuteronomy 22:11. There is a very good reason not to mix wool and linen and probably most other fabrics as well.
Look up doctor Heidi Yellen. She did a study on fabric mixing in 2003.
https://www.scribd.com/document/235007178/Scientific-Details-of-the-Linen-Frequency-Study
https://www.cappadociarugcollection.com/blogs/news/dr-heidi-yellen-s-study-on-fabric-frequencies
Great info. I don't like polyester it makes me sweat but my wife loves all that stretchy workout gear.
I do MMA and Brazilian jujitsu and all the rash guards are polyester or nylon. I always absolutely hated the feel. I now feel justified and wearing cotton rash guards
That cotton holds so much of the sweat especially when training on the mats
Yeah, and I'm a very sweaty person. I still refer prefer it to polyester or nylon. I've tried bamboo and hemp, bamboo's nice but cotton has probably the easiest to get
Makes me sweaty as well and agitated.
I have a smooth brain, but in my line of work "poly" means plastic, and "ester" means petroleum based. Not sure how it relates here but I just said it anyways.
Polyester is a petroleum product and basically a glorified plastic.
It also has the unique privilege of being far cheaper than wool or cotton. Hence all the large companies adopted it.
Gotta get that extra 5% on the quarterly earnings report. Make the investors happy. Damn the long term consequences
Plastics were invented long before this research was done. The 3 studies cited here were published in 1992, 1993, and 2008 for reference. Polyester was invented in 1941 and widely marketed by DuPont starting in the 1950s.
If you look at textile companies today and ask them why they choose to use it, or Spandex, or Lycra, or nylon, or any of the others, they'll describe the particular properties of the fibers that make their products better. If you are making yoga pants for example (Lululemon got into trouble with this ~10 years ago), you need something which is stretchy, but which does not thin when stretched. A few years after coming to widespread popularity, Lulu switched to a Chinese manufacturer who got clever about cutting costs and changed the fiber mix. Lulu ended up buying and reselling yoga pants that when women went into "down dog" or "dragonfly" (straddle) or certain other positions in class, the fabric in the crotch made your undergarments (or lack thereof) visible. Lawsuits were filed. Outrage was swift. Lulu switched that shit in a hurry and refunded recent purchases to make it right with their customers. They use what they use so the products looks good, feels good, washes clean, doesn't smell, performs through intended use and wear and tear, etc. They're trying to sell products we want to buy and wear.
I guarantee you practically no one knows about this fertility issue unless you're a GYN or GU specialist or you've been a patient seeking fertility treatments to try and conceive.
Poly means many. Ester refers to the specific chemical bond. What makes it a plastic is the specific monomers, the individual parts that get bonded together to make the chain.
Look up, if you're curious, the 7 most common plastics in the US, the ones in the numbered recycle symbols. Only 2 of them are actually recyclable. The labeling is deliberately deceptive. The plastic industry did that specifically to give people the impression it was recyclable, even though it wasn't. They told regulators that a universal symbol was necessary and that industry could work out waste disposal processes for plastics as long as they were numbered and identified. True, but deceptive.
Anyway, if you look at the names, you'll see they're all "poly" something. They're all chains of the various alkanes (the chemical name for the base links in that chain).
very interesting thank you
Ah shoot. Looks like I’ve had the etymology wrong on this one, somehow.
Thanks for the correction!
Just curious what the results would be if a base layer was cotton with polyester on top.
Because it is a chemical synthetic.
I'm 40 and have lower testosterone and noticed that my morning wood was happening a lot less often. I stopped wearing polyester underwear about 2 months ago, and after a few weeks it's like I'm 18 again. Waiting to get levels rechecked to see if actual levels have improved.
I can no longer stand to wear polyester. It drives me bat sh*t crazy to wear it. Likely it disrupts all the hormones is why.
wow first time i've ever heard that! I'm screwed then lol Although I'd need to find a woman first so not that big a deal really haha
Ugh…
Where is PETA on this? Surely raising then slaugtering and processing cute little polyesters is something they should protest!
/sarc for the public educated…
It does help prevent shrinkage though.
I was in the pool!
so that explains it. LOL
Well duh. It's not like they can work a zipper.
Bitches in plastic britches.
So if I wrap my balls in polyester I can raw dog without worry?
Polyester can indeed render men infertile. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1623716/ I'd like to see the prevalence of polyester underwear before and after this study.
Fact check warning! Ahmed Shafik the author of this damning paper https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1623716/ received an Ig Nobel Prize, not a Nobel Prize. There's a difference. Seems like a mistake that AI would make.
Although with sleepydude's commentary https://sleepydude.substack.com/p/nobel-comms it would have made sense for a Nobel Prize.