Except the dude its still trying to bring evs back. He lost about 100,000 (yes 100,000) on every "mustang" EV and he thought that was a winning proposition.
Everyone internally at Ford hates him. He says the stupidest things. One of my friends at Ford jokes to his kids that "if Jim Farley can be a CEO you can literally do anything, literally anything in life".
Also you wouldnt believe how Indians have taken ford over.
Your own car is a significant part of the American dream. It was starting to get out of reach, especially for young adults.
I had a Mustang, a Galaxy 500, and a brand new Trans Am; all by the time I was 20. I paid for the last two and my dad got me the Mustang for $50 because the engine had seized. I found an engine for $75 and my Dad and I put it in. Nobody would even think that would be possible today.
Nice, after all those efforts to also get rid of old cars - not just in America, we in Finland have also gotten that pay for destroying older vehicles (when one was able to buy a new one above certain price range at the same time) which has taken good, still working cars out of circulation and made owning a car harder for low-income people.
But there actually are jobs where getting to high enough an income from working for even sort of comfortable living might require owning a car. Off hand I can think of jobs like cleaning, especially cleaners who have to use their own cars. Maybe especially cleaners who, for example, clean people's homes. From what I know it is not usually anything that takes a whole day, not even several hours, but they use maybe a couple of hours in one place, then need to get to the next.
And they need to transfer their work equipment from location to location. And from what I have seen when looking at job ads, it looks like it is probably easier to find work, not only as a cleaner but for several other types of work, mostly those lower paying manual jobs, if one not only has a driver's license but also owns a car.
But with the kind of pay one gets from a lot of those jobs the only viable alternative for a car may be some older model, and preferably something that is also cheaper to maintain and to fix when it breaks.
But the people who can decide about the politics concerning things like car ownership seem to mostly, or only, think in terms of that kind of work where the worker needs to only move from home to one work location, like an office or a factory, and then back home, and probably lives where he can use public transport. So hey, lets do something to get rid of all those old polluting cars so people will start buying electric cars or start using something else, more environmentally friendly transport systems.
The problem is that this stupidity has gone on so long, it's baked into all the designs and throughout the supply chain. Nobody has a truly reliable transmission in their product lines anymore outside maybe some light duty trucks. Some of the engine designs could probably be salvaged, but not all. A lot of the other systems are so integrated that even deactivating useless "features", while reducing annoyance, won't improve complexity, reliability or cost. It will take years to change the way cars are made, and those investments aren't going to happen if there's a chance the 'rats will gain power again and undo all the Trump changes.
In some ways, GM of all companies is best poised to take advantage. They still know how to make decent v8s, and the aftermarket already has bandaids to workaround their problems because of the high volume . Same with some of their transmissions. But they're basically a Chinese company now.
Ford's probably also likely to be able to change direction. It wasn't that long ago they were still building Crown Vics. Maybe they could spin those back up on a modified light truck assembly line or use as a basis for a slightly smaller, modernized version with some Mustang parts.
I agree it will take several years to redesign, retool manufacturing, and bring these to market. Manufacturers will make the small changes during model refresh and big changes during redesign. I see new models that are cheaper and better made coming to the market before current model redesigns because manufacturers will want to recoup their investments through letting the models run their course. That said, i think you will be right about hesitancy will potential rats regaining ppwer. We know they wont, but manufacturers will probably slow walk major changes until its clear rats aren't coming back and their sales pick up. Will be interesting to watch. But auto makers are definitely a big part of the American come back.
There is a Slate factory opening in my state. Im doing all I can to encourage them to make a gas engine variant. With a little luck they will roll one out in a year or two.
"Now customers get a chance to choose what they want, not buy what we force on them."
What a concept!
Except the dude its still trying to bring evs back. He lost about 100,000 (yes 100,000) on every "mustang" EV and he thought that was a winning proposition.
Everyone internally at Ford hates him. He says the stupidest things. One of my friends at Ford jokes to his kids that "if Jim Farley can be a CEO you can literally do anything, literally anything in life".
Also you wouldnt believe how Indians have taken ford over.
👏…another domino falling in the fraudulent “climate control/ global warming” wealth redistribution scam. Thank you PDJT
Your own car is a significant part of the American dream. It was starting to get out of reach, especially for young adults.
I had a Mustang, a Galaxy 500, and a brand new Trans Am; all by the time I was 20. I paid for the last two and my dad got me the Mustang for $50 because the engine had seized. I found an engine for $75 and my Dad and I put it in. Nobody would even think that would be possible today.
Why did these gutless turds that run these corporations not take a stand years ago?
You answered your own question. Would a gutless turd ever show courage?
This policy is timed well with the falling gas prices.
Nice, after all those efforts to also get rid of old cars - not just in America, we in Finland have also gotten that pay for destroying older vehicles (when one was able to buy a new one above certain price range at the same time) which has taken good, still working cars out of circulation and made owning a car harder for low-income people.
But there actually are jobs where getting to high enough an income from working for even sort of comfortable living might require owning a car. Off hand I can think of jobs like cleaning, especially cleaners who have to use their own cars. Maybe especially cleaners who, for example, clean people's homes. From what I know it is not usually anything that takes a whole day, not even several hours, but they use maybe a couple of hours in one place, then need to get to the next.
And they need to transfer their work equipment from location to location. And from what I have seen when looking at job ads, it looks like it is probably easier to find work, not only as a cleaner but for several other types of work, mostly those lower paying manual jobs, if one not only has a driver's license but also owns a car.
But with the kind of pay one gets from a lot of those jobs the only viable alternative for a car may be some older model, and preferably something that is also cheaper to maintain and to fix when it breaks.
But the people who can decide about the politics concerning things like car ownership seem to mostly, or only, think in terms of that kind of work where the worker needs to only move from home to one work location, like an office or a factory, and then back home, and probably lives where he can use public transport. So hey, lets do something to get rid of all those old polluting cars so people will start buying electric cars or start using something else, more environmentally friendly transport systems.
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1996572901454057823?s=20
"We'll be able to launch new vehicles, built in America, that are more affordable because of this rule change."
Great news, but I'll believe it when I see it. More likely they'll just make more profit selling the same overcomplicated overpriced unreliable crap.
I think they know they have to bring carcprices down to drive up sales. Easiest way is it cut out all the climate green bullshit
The problem is that this stupidity has gone on so long, it's baked into all the designs and throughout the supply chain. Nobody has a truly reliable transmission in their product lines anymore outside maybe some light duty trucks. Some of the engine designs could probably be salvaged, but not all. A lot of the other systems are so integrated that even deactivating useless "features", while reducing annoyance, won't improve complexity, reliability or cost. It will take years to change the way cars are made, and those investments aren't going to happen if there's a chance the 'rats will gain power again and undo all the Trump changes.
In some ways, GM of all companies is best poised to take advantage. They still know how to make decent v8s, and the aftermarket already has bandaids to workaround their problems because of the high volume . Same with some of their transmissions. But they're basically a Chinese company now.
Ford's probably also likely to be able to change direction. It wasn't that long ago they were still building Crown Vics. Maybe they could spin those back up on a modified light truck assembly line or use as a basis for a slightly smaller, modernized version with some Mustang parts.
I agree it will take several years to redesign, retool manufacturing, and bring these to market. Manufacturers will make the small changes during model refresh and big changes during redesign. I see new models that are cheaper and better made coming to the market before current model redesigns because manufacturers will want to recoup their investments through letting the models run their course. That said, i think you will be right about hesitancy will potential rats regaining ppwer. We know they wont, but manufacturers will probably slow walk major changes until its clear rats aren't coming back and their sales pick up. Will be interesting to watch. But auto makers are definitely a big part of the American come back.
There is a Slate factory opening in my state. Im doing all I can to encourage them to make a gas engine variant. With a little luck they will roll one out in a year or two.
THEN they will be worth buying.
Scout is supposedly on the way back, but as an EV. Maybe this will help them change direction...