Agreed! Arterial plaque is the bodies answer to damaged arteries from a crap diet. Imagine what happens to those damaged arteries when the plaque is “cleaned out”. Is this a good thing?
A better option is artery repair through a low carb crap free diet.
Wrong. L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
Isn't that Doctor Matthias Rath's protocol? His book is excellent. "Ten Years that Changed Medicine Forever" He was a cardiovascular doctor who teamed up with Linus Pauling. They did amazing research.
Look, if you want nutritional supplements there is literally NO better company than Shaklee.
They publish their research on their Web site, they insist on the soil being cleansed for 7 years (last I checked) before they would accept the crops grown in it for their raw materials.
And they offer a money back guarantee if you don't feel better from using their products.
Dont be asinine. Of course if you have other symptoms you have to adjust, and a retarded diet doesn't help, that much is obvious.
If Lysine +VitC didnt work, did you stop to consider it may not be a plaque build- issue, but rather thickening artery walls, or another issue?
Others on here have said it didnt work, and with one or two questions it was figured out they had mittigating circumstances, other health issues, or they were taking wrong dosages AND were not including fasting (not fasting reduces effectiveness by as much as 95%).
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
Grok found it.....The study referenced in the X post is a 2022 retrospective observational clinical study titled "Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants", authored by Honglin Chen and colleagues.
It was published in the open-access journal Frontiers in Cardiovascular Medicine (volume 9, article 964977). You can read the full text here: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/cardiovascular-medicine/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.964977/full (or via PubMed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36072877/).
Key Details
Location/Origin: The study was conducted in China. Participants were patients with hyperlipidemia and/or mild atherosclerosis who used an approved nattokinase product manufactured by Sungen Bioscience Co., Ltd. (Shantou, Guangdong Province). Data were retrospectively analyzed from records between 2016–2020.
Design: Retrospective analysis of real-world data from 1,062 participants (average age ~67.5 years) taking high-dose nattokinase (primarily 10,800 FU/day) for 12 months.
Note: This is distinct from an earlier 2017 Chinese study (Ren et al.) with fewer participants (~76 completing) and a lower dose, which also reported ~36% plaque reduction but is not the one cited in the post.
The study reports no serious adverse effects at this dose, but it emphasizes consulting a doctor due to nattokinase's blood-thinning properties.
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
Mine went from greater than 85% greater than 60%. This was after 2 one month sessions about six months apart, going to do another one and add proline I’ve been taking it daily for the last six months to a small dose
Grok found it.....The study referenced in the X post is a 2022 retrospective observational clinical study titled "Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants", authored by Honglin Chen and colleagues. It was published in the open-access journal Frontiers in Cardiovascular Medicine (volume 9, article 964977). You can read the full text here: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/cardiovascular-medicine/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.964977/full (or via PubMed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36072877/). Key Details Location/Origin: The study was conducted in China. Participants were patients with hyperlipidemia and/or mild atherosclerosis who used an approved nattokinase product manufactured by Sungen Bioscience Co., Ltd. (Shantou, Guangdong Province). Data were retrospectively analyzed from records between 2016–2020. Design: Retrospective analysis of real-world data from 1,062 participants (average age ~67.5 years) taking high-dose nattokinase (primarily 10,800 FU/day) for 12 months. Note: This is distinct from an earlier 2017 Chinese study (Ren et al.) with fewer participants (~76 completing) and a lower dose, which also reported ~36% plaque reduction but is not the one cited in the post. The study reports no serious adverse effects at this dose, but it emphasizes consulting a doctor due to nattokinase's blood-thinning properties.
Worked for me. It worked so well I had to come off my BP meds because my BP went so low. I didn't take it for that - I was taking it to combat shedding - but figured out that it cleaned out my arteries when I was getting dizzy. I stopped my meds and immediately felt better, and my doc agreed.
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
Not all blood thinners are equal in the magnitude of their blood thinning.
One of the most blood thinning is plain aspirin. Second to that, garlic.
Many of the herbs have blood thinning properties but to a much lesser degree, like for example turmeric, butchers broom, horse chestnut, hesperidin, willow bark (aspirin basically, salicilin), GARLIC (big one)
Vitamin E is a very bad one. I take it with other herbs that have thinning and I get some bruises. I take the herbs, no bruises. It's clearly the interaction of the two.
Just be sensible and rotate the thinning herbs out because the thinning effect is combinatory and cumulative
That said, even in combination I doubt they have the power of wafarin and other pharma blood thinners (except ASPIRIN!)
The Dr. McCullough protocol ('wellness group') for spike protein detox includes NAC, nattokinase WITH bromelain.
I'd recommend alternating them by day or at least by 12 hours
Anybody out there have a favorite brand that they like?
Doctor's Best
That's the brand I buy too but I got lazy about taking it
ThankQ both
Bookmark for the answer.
Gyumolics, very little added ingredients. I always check added ingredients for supplements and try to buy bulk powder.
ThankQ
You can't out supplement bad lifestyle.
If you don't cut carbs and exercise supplements will reverse nothing.
Agreed! Arterial plaque is the bodies answer to damaged arteries from a crap diet. Imagine what happens to those damaged arteries when the plaque is “cleaned out”. Is this a good thing? A better option is artery repair through a low carb crap free diet.
Wrong. L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
Isn't that Doctor Matthias Rath's protocol? His book is excellent. "Ten Years that Changed Medicine Forever" He was a cardiovascular doctor who teamed up with Linus Pauling. They did amazing research.
Look, if you want nutritional supplements there is literally NO better company than Shaklee.
They publish their research on their Web site, they insist on the soil being cleansed for 7 years (last I checked) before they would accept the crops grown in it for their raw materials.
And they offer a money back guarantee if you don't feel better from using their products.
https://us.shaklee.com/
More than welcome
So what you're saying is don't worry about insulin resistance or diabetes and keep eating Twinkies?
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Dont be asinine. Of course if you have other symptoms you have to adjust, and a retarded diet doesn't help, that much is obvious.
If Lysine +VitC didnt work, did you stop to consider it may not be a plaque build- issue, but rather thickening artery walls, or another issue?
Others on here have said it didnt work, and with one or two questions it was figured out they had mittigating circumstances, other health issues, or they were taking wrong dosages AND were not including fasting (not fasting reduces effectiveness by as much as 95%).
AND that is the stuff that I take everyyyyyy day!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Wow
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
So...where was the study done and by whom? It says "we".
Need sauce.
Here's sauce:
https://naturalheartdoctor.com/nattokinase-a-natural-solution-to-reverse-carotid-and-coronary-artery-disease/
Where is the original study that was cited?
Grok found it.....The study referenced in the X post is a 2022 retrospective observational clinical study titled "Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants", authored by Honglin Chen and colleagues. It was published in the open-access journal Frontiers in Cardiovascular Medicine (volume 9, article 964977). You can read the full text here: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/cardiovascular-medicine/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.964977/full (or via PubMed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36072877/). Key Details Location/Origin: The study was conducted in China. Participants were patients with hyperlipidemia and/or mild atherosclerosis who used an approved nattokinase product manufactured by Sungen Bioscience Co., Ltd. (Shantou, Guangdong Province). Data were retrospectively analyzed from records between 2016–2020. Design: Retrospective analysis of real-world data from 1,062 participants (average age ~67.5 years) taking high-dose nattokinase (primarily 10,800 FU/day) for 12 months. Note: This is distinct from an earlier 2017 Chinese study (Ren et al.) with fewer participants (~76 completing) and a lower dose, which also reported ~36% plaque reduction but is not the one cited in the post. The study reports no serious adverse effects at this dose, but it emphasizes consulting a doctor due to nattokinase's blood-thinning properties.
Thank you for locating the study. : )
np and yw
fake sauce
Here is real sauce
Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants
Thanks.
Not sure...found this in the comments on X
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
Yes look for johntitor17.
Mine went from greater than 85% greater than 60%. This was after 2 one month sessions about six months apart, going to do another one and add proline I’ve been taking it daily for the last six months to a small dose
Grok found it.....The study referenced in the X post is a 2022 retrospective observational clinical study titled "Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants", authored by Honglin Chen and colleagues. It was published in the open-access journal Frontiers in Cardiovascular Medicine (volume 9, article 964977). You can read the full text here: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/cardiovascular-medicine/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.964977/full (or via PubMed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36072877/). Key Details Location/Origin: The study was conducted in China. Participants were patients with hyperlipidemia and/or mild atherosclerosis who used an approved nattokinase product manufactured by Sungen Bioscience Co., Ltd. (Shantou, Guangdong Province). Data were retrospectively analyzed from records between 2016–2020. Design: Retrospective analysis of real-world data from 1,062 participants (average age ~67.5 years) taking high-dose nattokinase (primarily 10,800 FU/day) for 12 months. Note: This is distinct from an earlier 2017 Chinese study (Ren et al.) with fewer participants (~76 completing) and a lower dose, which also reported ~36% plaque reduction but is not the one cited in the post. The study reports no serious adverse effects at this dose, but it emphasizes consulting a doctor due to nattokinase's blood-thinning properties.
Perfect! Thank you.
Yw
Worked for me. It worked so well I had to come off my BP meds because my BP went so low. I didn't take it for that - I was taking it to combat shedding - but figured out that it cleaned out my arteries when I was getting dizzy. I stopped my meds and immediately felt better, and my doc agreed.
Can we do this with the Linus Pauling protocol?
L-lysine and vitamin c is all you need, and it wont take 12 months. My mom went from 70% blockage to essentially 0% in 5 months, and that was taking it slow.
Search lysine on GAW and you will find a lot of articles already covering this very topic going back for years.
I've been taking Nattokinase 2000 FU per day for some time.
But isn't natto also a blood thinner? I think i might prefer to go with the linus pauling protocol that was posted on this site.
Not all blood thinners are equal in the magnitude of their blood thinning.
One of the most blood thinning is plain aspirin. Second to that, garlic.
Many of the herbs have blood thinning properties but to a much lesser degree, like for example turmeric, butchers broom, horse chestnut, hesperidin, willow bark (aspirin basically, salicilin), GARLIC (big one)
Vitamin E is a very bad one. I take it with other herbs that have thinning and I get some bruises. I take the herbs, no bruises. It's clearly the interaction of the two.
Just be sensible and rotate the thinning herbs out because the thinning effect is combinatory and cumulative
That said, even in combination I doubt they have the power of wafarin and other pharma blood thinners (except ASPIRIN!)
The Dr. McCullough protocol ('wellness group') for spike protein detox includes NAC, nattokinase WITH bromelain.
I'd recommend alternating them by day or at least by 12 hours