Reference Point:
Promethean Update - They Lied About Turning Point: Vance Exposes the REAL Operation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Qdppy5xNQ
Highly recommended.
A lot of what the Promethean ladies say makes a lot of sense to me.
So, I decided to ask Grok what it thought about the significance of TPUSA in the re-election of Donald Trump in 2024.
https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=2003333876006203420
"How significant do you think the work or action of TPUSA was in the election of Donald Trump in 2024?"
"Turning Point USA (TPUSA), founded by Charlie Kirk, played a notable role in Donald Trump's 2024 presidential victory, particularly through its focus on youth mobilization, voter turnout efforts, and grassroots organizing in key swing states."
Key Contributions:
Youth Voter Engagement and Turnout
Ground Game and Voter Mobilization
Alliance with Trump and MAGA Ecosystem
ON that last point:
TPUSA evolved from a campus group into a major Trump ally, providing infrastructure for rallies, endorsements, and post-election lobbying (e.g., pushing for Trump's cabinet picks). Their efforts built on work since 2016, though 2020 was a setback; by 2024, they were seen as a "powerful grassroots machine."
I tend to focus more on the psyop/anon-level of information, so I never paid much attention to TPUSA or Charlie Kirk, as they were/are decidedly more mainstream. But, they have been thrust directly into the 'truther' space, overlapping anon space, but the recent developments, including the rise of 'controversy' in the aftermath of the Kirk murder.
However, if you step back and look at the bigger picture, a lot of things make sense. I.e. the intense attack on TPUSA, starting with the murder of Charlie Kirk. The targeting of the youth sector, particularly the young men.
While certain inflooencers proclaim they are "America First" and "Conservative", even well, 'Trump Supporters', their underlying messages are consistently 'do not trust Trump', 'the Administration has gone wrong/cannot be trusted', etc.
In my opinion, it's exceedingly important to be able to step back from the chaotic fighting and criticizing and attacking, and consider other potential explanations for how certain actors are behaving.
Trump needs the People on his side but also the Congress on his side going forward. The mid-terms are going to be a critical battle.
How would the opponents of Trump see TPUSA and Charlie Kirk? As an organization that MUST be stopped? At all costs?
Easy to imagine.
This Promethean Update goes into a lot of this, but for me the key and salient point she emphasizes is one I would like to continually impress upon all the frogs gathering at the GAW waterhole (quoting William Sargent's 1957 book "Battle for the mind":
Various types of belief can be implanted in many people, after brain function has been sufficiently disturbed by accidentally or deliberately induced fear, anger or excitement. Of the results caused by such disturbances, the most common one is temporarily impaired judgement and heightened suggestibility.
Its various group manifestations are sometimes classed under the heading of “herd instinct,” and appear most spectacularly in wartime, during severe epidemics, and in all similar periods of common danger, which increase anxiety and so individual and mass suggestibility.”
heightened suggestibility
wartime, epidemics (boy, did he call that one)
fear, anger or excitement
For anons, the last one is really important. Because most of us have broken free of the mainstream matrix, but we are very much being targeted and are also 'susceptible' to all sort of psyops because of that.
One you step outside the matrix, then it really IS 'down the rabbit hole'. You enter the middle of the battle ground of psychological operations, operations being conducted by opposing forces who have had decades and decades of practice at refining their techniques, skills, not to mention having access to huge resources that we cannot compete with.
All we have is our collective hive mind, a powerful spiritual underpinning in that God wants truth to reign in the world, and whatever levels of discernment we can muster.
Think about what Donald Trump is up against. Then think about what forces WE are up against, what intel and psychological warfare forces we have put ourselves in the line of.
How to deal with a barrage of psychological battles?
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Step back, look at the bigger picture.
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Don't just take people (aka 'actors' - inflooencers, pundits, people we think are allies, etc) at face value but also do not dismiss your own prejudices and do not downplay your own susceptibility to manipulation.
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Look for tell tale signs of psychological manipulation: sensationalism, highly emotive arguments, painted 'heroes' and 'evil enemies', polarization and the injection of divisive narratives, negative messages embedded in what looks like 80% 'friendly' narratives, etc.
If you measure what people are doing and what impact they are having by: does this ADVANCE the Donald Trump agenda, or does this negatively impact on it? you might get a clearer picture of what people's real objectives are, regardless of what they say to your face.
Because the FIRST thing the psychological manipulation does is to try to get you buried in tunnel vision. Get you buried in your own opinion, focused on one particular area to distract you from that larger picture, because the larger picture provides perspective and context that helps you to sift the signal from the noise.
End thought: I haven't looked closely at the TPUSA Amfest thing, but even a superficial view inspires me with hope. What exactly?
Conflicting views being expressed from the stage: eg. Ben Shapiro vs Tucker Carlson, vs Steve Bannon, vs Megyn Kelly, etc
That's healthy, and good. And apparently 'TPUSA defended allowing unscripted speeches to promote open debate'. I think that's actually a positive sign, although those that hate Trump and the MAGA movement will do their best to paint that as 'conflict, fracturing, downfall' (aka doomerism).
Regardless of what you think of all or any of the actors involved, I recommend putting all those opinions aside and asking the simple, basic question: Do you trust Donald Trump, and if so, what advances the mission of Donald Trump?
It's not about not having disagreements. It's about the common goals that we are actually fighting for. Unity does not come from an absence of disagreement. It comes from a willing engagement to work on and achieve common goals and shared objectives, goals that are based on first-principle priorities that truly serve a higher priority than just 'me'.
I have seen so many people screaming "Erika is pusing Vance, so she must be shady". Honestly, these people have not been keeping up with what Vance has been doing. He is probably one of the few in current administration who has a good overall understanding.
Some are focused on Russia hoax, some on election fraud, some on social issues, some on financial side, but Vance is one of the few who not only understands all these points with clarity, but also understands the how they are all interconnected.
And not only does he get all this, and is in the position to defeat it, he can also. explain this to people like no one else.
There is a reason why the British Banksters recently declared that he must not be allowed to take over after Trump because then these changes will become permanent.
Im not a fan currently. Telling us to accept The Kirk assassination story, talking down to us about how he also went down every rabbit hole and conspiracy. So much so his wife was worried about him.
What in the 'im one of you' type BULLSHIT is that.
Your the damn VPOTUS and you don't know what really happened. My ass. This fucking AMFEST was an absolute train wreck.
HUSH, DOOMER! 🤣🤣🤣
I have other reasons for not trusting Vance so I really like to see him being challenged from other angles. Shit. Light is the best disinfectant, no?
Here here. Trust God, be open to questioning ourselves and everyone else.
Exactly. You cant Quest with Questioning. I learned long ago those who say don’t Question are Not to be trusted. You should ALWAYS be able to ask questions. That doesn’t mean you will get the answer you want but the act of asking questions should always be encouraged
Really dude? He doesn't know what happened? Or he cant share it publicly since its an ongoing operation? Think man!
I pick option #2: "He can't share it publicly since its an ongoing operation"!
That's the real point, isn't it? I find myself continuously reminding frogs that we are in the midst of an ongoing operation the likes of which has not been seen in recorded history. Some people are so spoiled by a lifetime of instant gratification that they won't be happy unless something happens yesterday.
Yeah no shit. My point is dont give me the 'im one of youuuu guuyyysss digging through all the conspiracies and rabbit holes'
Vance ain't it man.
Sheese, you guys still think like the lefties
The money system.is collapsing. The money masters are about to fall. Its happening while white hats can control the direction it goes from here. That is the critical node to MAGA. Every other event is ancillary either as a catalyst or by product. The election of trump, voting machines, epstein, the borders, russia gate and every other event fall into those categories. Much of that is the deep states operations amd exposure of the people involved. In thr end, MAGA can not happen if the federal reserve isnt dismantled. The five pillars of a counter insurgency are being fought over and have all capitulated to the white hats. The rest is the unfolding publicly of the events and how theyve impacted us in the past and how they will impact us in the future. Truths we want to know for sure, but not the truths we need to know to get to MAGA.
Well said! $$ is human energy, or at least it represents human energy. Every $$ we earn represents time, effort, creativity, & labor — our energy expended in service or production.
$$ can be thought of as a storage system for human effort, our lives really — a token that records the transfer of life energy between people.
So in a sense when we spend $, we’re spending the stored hrs of our life. Anyone (bankers) who can control the issuance of $$ can control the people!
In my mind, some were exposed.
That is a good thing.
America first baby !!!
I agree with you about Vance.
Saw him last Summer at a fundraising event and he speaks well about the issues and is very quick on his feet when asked a question.
Sorry, I saw a weak leader. A strong leader would see how division is destroying the party, and have deflected attention away from it. President "Trump Was Right About Everything" Marco Rubio is the best choice for the midterms. Vance using Nicki Minaj, to accelerate his 'run for president' was not very wise.
That's your opinion and I have mine.
When we saw him it was the Summer of 2024 and before the election. He was thoughtful and answered questions and he was quick thinking on his feet.
As you I thought the same. But, fortunately Ben Shapiro exposed the true Vance. Ben is the ONLY one who got a standing ovation.
WAY TOO many people are in the weeds looking for ALMOST ANYTHING and when something happens they can say: "see I told ya' I found something"... WE as PDJT Supporters, just need to get the midterms swung in the repubs direction and take care of the riff-raff that inhabits the Republican Party at ALL Levels...
In other words...clean house and sanitize the place...Have way too many wanted to make a name for themselves!!!!
Midterms are safe - 2018
Midterms are safe - 2022
Midterms are safe - 2026
I don't want to type no farther. Sooner or later.