Well investigations are great but wake me up when someone actually gets charged, convicted and it actually sticks. Also that the sentence is actually proper and not a slap on the wrist... so many hoops to jump through yet before justice is anywhere near served, pal.
agreed.. Somali fraud was discovered in 2014, local news did an investigative report on it in 2015. Rep Jason Lewis testified over $100 million was missing from Somali fraud and flown out of MSP. multiple other fraud scams since then and absolutely nothing has changed. here we are a decade later still talking about the fraud. so until Minnesotans actually see arrests from the top down, and massive deportations, along with returning money to taxpayers, it's the same dog and pony show.
I'm not dooming, and I've been here ..... crap, I think just about since the beginning.... put another way; I was definitely active on r/GreatAwakening, and then migrated over here.
So please; rather than ad hominem (just calling me a "doomer" as if that's supposed to end the argument.... why don't you just call us racist too?) please debate the merits of what I'm saying here.....
ANYWAY......
The people in here saying stuff like "wake me up when there are arrests & tangible consequences" are absolutely correct.
Anyone arrogantly / smugly dismissing them out of hand is disingenuous at best.
So the feds are "setting up shop for a 'massive' fraud operation"? Cool.... so what?
That doesn't mean arrests, It doesn't mean penalties. And it sure as hell doesn't mean PRISON TIME - like the very real and substantial penalties, consequences, and prison time some of Trump's campaign members suffered.
Below are just a few examples of what happened to some Trump supporters / campaign members. Like actually, in real life.
Time served, huge financial penalties paid, disbarment, etc.
I think what everyone here means is; wake me up when stuff like THIS starts happening to anyone in minnesota.
Like walz dropping out of the governors race; THAT is a good (minor, but good) TANGIBLE repercussion / consequence of his actions. But we need so much more.
Just a very few examples from a very long list:
Sidney Powell (and her "kraken" she allegedly had re: 2020 election fraud) is involved in a Georgia election interference case where she pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to intentionally interfere with election duties. As part of her plea agreement, she will serve six years of probation and testify against other defendants, including Donald Trump.
Rudy Giuliani (personal lawyer and surrogate): Indicted in Georgia on RICO charges for election interference; disbarred in New York and facing defamation lawsuits from voting machine operators; voluntarily surrendered for mugshot in 2023. (I'll add that those 2 POS jogger fraudster bitches in GA actually WON a $148 MILLION lawsuit against him. Apparently its finally been settled (for nowhere near that amount because Rudy doesn't have it), but still; he had to give up at least one of his homes, cars, jewelry; lots of stuff.
I'll add that while the $148 million verdict was largely symbolic, it was intended to send a big and clear message. A message which pehaps some of you have forgotten. It was also intended to completely & utterly destroy Rudy.
Peter Navarro (former trade adviser): Served four months in prison in 2024 for two counts of contempt of Congress after defying Jan. 6 Committee subpoenas on 2020 election efforts.
Steve Bannon (former strategist): Convicted of contempt of Congress for ignoring Jan. 6 subpoenas related to election subversion; pardoned federally but served time on state fraud charges; four-month sentence began in 2024
It's a bad sign that I even have to say this here on this forum, but I'd appreciate you debating my points instead of slandering me & others with this forums' equivalent of "racist" (Doomer) simply because we want real, hard, serious penalties & consequences for these traitorous shitbags.
Trump's people - our people - literally served time in prison, were disbarred and so much more. Don't just wake us up when that happens; we should ALL be pushing for penalties like this!!!
Whens' the last time any of you wrote a letter to Trump or anyone in his admin making your opinion heard?
The "Nothing is happening!" crowd taking another L in record time.
Well investigations are great but wake me up when someone actually gets charged, convicted and it actually sticks. Also that the sentence is actually proper and not a slap on the wrist... so many hoops to jump through yet before justice is anywhere near served, pal.
Of course you're a doomer. You're in your mid 30s and still live with your parents.
Yes. That's exactly why. How can I not be a doomer with my lived experience? London is a hellhole and its all i've ever known ffs.
So doom about your own country.
This is America and we've already had over 90 arrests in Minnesota on this so the question is why the fuck aren't you awake?
We're over here winning. We don't need your negative Eurofag sentiment about OUR country.
The Epstein client list suggests you're wrong.
agreed.. Somali fraud was discovered in 2014, local news did an investigative report on it in 2015. Rep Jason Lewis testified over $100 million was missing from Somali fraud and flown out of MSP. multiple other fraud scams since then and absolutely nothing has changed. here we are a decade later still talking about the fraud. so until Minnesotans actually see arrests from the top down, and massive deportations, along with returning money to taxpayers, it's the same dog and pony show.
Foreign doomers over at P.W shaking their fists at their screens.
Yeah the amount of forum sliding over there is ridiculous. Mods need to get on top of that bullshit.
Absolutely, I think it'll be no time at all before a few strongly worded letters are delivered and Keith Ellison puts Nick Sorter in jail.
That'll show them doubting Thomas's.
Not dooming, just commenting on the most likely outcomes. The skinnys will carry on stealing and Nick needs security for the rest of his life.
Still, there is some winning going. POTUS told the EU to get f***** with there stupid forever war plans. That was a win. Hold the line Mr President.
I'm not dooming, and I've been here ..... crap, I think just about since the beginning.... put another way; I was definitely active on r/GreatAwakening, and then migrated over here.
So please; rather than ad hominem (just calling me a "doomer" as if that's supposed to end the argument.... why don't you just call us racist too?) please debate the merits of what I'm saying here.....
ANYWAY......
The people in here saying stuff like "wake me up when there are arrests & tangible consequences" are absolutely correct.
Anyone arrogantly / smugly dismissing them out of hand is disingenuous at best.
So the feds are "setting up shop for a 'massive' fraud operation"? Cool.... so what?
That doesn't mean arrests, It doesn't mean penalties. And it sure as hell doesn't mean PRISON TIME - like the very real and substantial penalties, consequences, and prison time some of Trump's campaign members suffered.
Below are just a few examples of what happened to some Trump supporters / campaign members. Like actually, in real life. Time served, huge financial penalties paid, disbarment, etc.
I think what everyone here means is; wake me up when stuff like THIS starts happening to anyone in minnesota.
Like walz dropping out of the governors race; THAT is a good (minor, but good) TANGIBLE repercussion / consequence of his actions. But we need so much more.
Just a very few examples from a very long list:
I'll add that while the $148 million verdict was largely symbolic, it was intended to send a big and clear message. A message which pehaps some of you have forgotten. It was also intended to completely & utterly destroy Rudy.
It's a bad sign that I even have to say this here on this forum, but I'd appreciate you debating my points instead of slandering me & others with this forums' equivalent of "racist" (Doomer) simply because we want real, hard, serious penalties & consequences for these traitorous shitbags.
Trump's people - our people - literally served time in prison, were disbarred and so much more. Don't just wake us up when that happens; we should ALL be pushing for penalties like this!!!
Whens' the last time any of you wrote a letter to Trump or anyone in his admin making your opinion heard?
/Rant