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‼️THE GREAT HEALTHCARE PLAN‼️- Lower Drug prices - Lower Insurance Premiums - Hold Big Insurance Companies Accountable - Maximize Price Transparency (twitter.com) 🧘Mental/Physical Health 🏋🏼‍♂️
posted 171 days ago by GDZeus 171 days ago by GDZeus +162 / -0
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– BooniesRedneck 18 points 171 days ago +18 / -0

Good plan, can we now retrain the medical professionals to actually help people?

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– SvixGale 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

Good call, but it's nowhere near as simple as "retrain"

You can't train someone who believes the big pharma shit & has bought the "you need a shot for everything" mentality....

Like the dancing tiktok nurses.... you can't retrain "people" like that......

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– BooniesRedneck 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

You’re right; sad tho.

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– SvixGale 1 point 165 days ago +1 / -0

It's a nitpick (kinda) but had to be said, IMO.

Never forget the tiktok nurses. 🤬🤬🤬

I get & completely agree with your point though....western medicine is very broken in many ways.

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– BooniesRedneck 2 points 165 days ago +2 / -0

I think about the nurses a lot; had a couple of young former high school kids who went into nursing. They had just finished up nursing school when covid hit. One of them now has anxiety issues. The other I haven’t been able to find out how she is doing. These were both great, sweet, kind kids, but since they were new to nursing they were given the hard jobs that no one else wanted to do. They also didn’t have the experience that a career hardened nurse did and so didn’t know when they should have pushed back. My heart breaks for those kids because I’m sure that at least one of them now knows the truth about the meds that they gave to covid patients, especially the elderly.

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– SvixGale 2 points 163 days ago +2 / -0

That's terribly sad. I forgot bout the impact the pLandemic had on kids & young people.

Fortunately, mine were young enough where they were naturally home with us all the time, so it was actually kind of a blessing to get so much extra family time. It brought us together / closer; we got on pretty well.

I'm so sad & enraged to know that so many families were torn apart by it. I personally know of several couples who divorced pretty much specifically because of the pLandemic; the added stress; being cooped up together, etc.

Tragic.

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– BooniesRedneck 2 points 163 days ago +2 / -0

Fortunately both kids have a very strong family unit.

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– SvixGale 1 point 128 days ago +1 / -0

Thank God! 😇🙏🏻

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– deleted 7 points 170 days ago +7 / -0
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– SvixGale 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

Seriously!!! This is the million-dollar question....

I guess maybe politically its not possible to un-do obamacare because the gimmedats are too loud & obnoxious about it?

Fuck.....

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– CharlesKirkland2 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

Great idea. Why should insurance be a for-profit business? Those sweedes are smart on a lot of topics. Mass immigration? not so good

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– Qled 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

Hang on, just going around and making companies non-profit is not the answer. The profit motivation incentivizes insurance companies to innovate and to compete with one another. If insurance companies can't make profits, investors will go elsewhere and no one will want to create any new insurance companies.

The way to fix this is through capitalism. Stop requiring insurance companies to cover certain conditions, and allow them to drop patients who are costing too much. This will decrease costs because it encourages individuals to not use too much health insurance. Right now, it is an all-you-can-eat buffet, so individuals are incurring massive costs. Bring back the lifetime caps so that these companies aren't on the hook for indefinite costs. This will also encourage users to avoid costly procedures so that they will have insurance available for later in life.

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– CheekyBastard 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

Health insurance should be like auto insurance. You pick the items you want to cover, the coverage levels for those items, and the deductibles. Eazy peezy. A 30 year old single dude does not need to be lumped into a group plan where gyno visits are covered.

And yes, I just left that statement wide open for someone to make a tranny joke.

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– Qled 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

That makes sense. If you have cancer, you are put in the group with only other cancer patients, then you all share costs amongst yourselves. That might get really expensive for the cancer patients, but honestly, this is probably their choice. We know the things that cause cancer these days, they're not hard to avoid.

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– FiatLux 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

I dunno maybe having non profit companies do insurance is a nice middle ground between capitalism and socialism. I personally would be interested in talking with a non profit insurer. Why do I want them innovating? I just want to have basic stuff covered at a reasonable price. It’s not rocket science, and I don’t want some middle easterner getting rich off my insurance premiums. Maybe make it American only companies.

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– Qled 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

Why would they have any incentive to compete if they can't make a profit? Why would they have any incentive to drive down prices and spend time and energy making their processes more efficient? If everyone is non-profit, then the whole sector gets lazy and expensive. This would increase our prices, not decrease them. The key here is aligning healthcare with shareholder interests. Shareholders are the ones who make substantial risks with their money, and should be rewarded for their efforts. Yeah, it sometimes sucks when healthcare is expensive, but this extra costs helps drive innovation by rewarding those who make risks. And this is still a capitalist system, so if someone gets a little too greedy, you can go and get your medication or cancer treatment at another hospital. I mean, look at all these socialist countries with government run healthcare. Sure, the service is cheap and hassle-free, but these countries have basically no billionaires, they have all fled to countries where they can make more money.

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– Qled 1 point 169 days ago +1 / -0

Realistically speaking, what innovation did the insurance companies provide in the last 3-4 decades?

Online access and apps as well as telehealth.

I used to believe in this fairy tale, but that is cope issued by the companies not to lose their profits.

Just think how bad it would be if insurance companies didn't have to compete, we would easily pay three to five times as much.

The reality is that Switzerland had this model since the 1900's, and is considered one of the best, most modern and innovative policies on our planet. But according to your logic, that shouldn't be the case since there is no profit involved.

They basically have socialized healthcare. Technically it is "private", but they force everyone in the country to have health insurance. It is basically that individual mandate communist BS that they tried with Obamacare.

The only way this will work is if the sharholder model will be eliminated. We need to go back to family owned businesses.

The means all the money stays in families instead of being spread out. This would be terrible for the average person. With publically traded stocks, anyone can become a shareholder. We don't need to eliminate this model, we need to expand it.

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– deleted 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0
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– Qled 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

My idea was that our health insurance was to be modeled after the Credit Union model. Unlike banks who prioritize profits, Credit Unions prioritize membership retention. As a result they focus on offering the lowest rates and highest customer service which makes them far better option than big banks.

Unions are dangerous because they are a stepping stone to socialism. Lower prices and better service sounds great, but that comes at a steep cost that eventually leads to economic collapse (ie Venezuela). The higher price you pay for banks ensures more accountability (they've never crashed the economy) and helps reinforce the profit and shareholder model, which is the foundation of capitalism.

The "cornering the wealth" is a leftist lie.

You think the Rothschild family and their domination of European wealth and power for generations is a lie?

The idea is that just like monarchies, wealthy families usually are invested in their communities

This is like saying that slave owners were invested in the community of the slaves they owned. I guess it is true, if by invested you mean they control the money and pay the bare minimum to keep the slaves from revolting. As a shareholder, I have rights, voting power, and get a percentage of the dividends. For a family owned business, I get none of that, and just have to accept whatever they provide.

On the other hand shareholders only care about extracting wealth. They don't care about building a legacy, improving the communities or any of these initiatives. They are like locusts that once they pillage a company they move on to the next leaving a trail of carcasses behind. See Blackrock, Vanguard and Blackstone as examples.

Which is fine because you and I can be shareholders. I noticed that everyone who complains about this system are usually those who are too poor (through personal choices) to own any stocks. Notice how the big stock holders aren't complaining?

A real world example is McDonalds vs In-n-Out. One is a corporate shell of company that produces some of the most disgusting food imaginable while the other is praised as offering one the best burgers around and a paragon of customer service. I'll let you figure out which is family owned and which isn't.

McDonalds has had a much larger impact on the world than just about any other company. You can say what you want about their food, I think it's fine. Not great, but fine. Whenever McDonalds has entered a city, or even a country, they increase the standards of cleanliness. Also, McDonalds has made multiple shareholders and franchisees millionaires. In-n-Out has horded their wealth, stock pilling their profits for themselves. If you want an "animal style" economy, then sure, In-n-Out will get you there.

If you want another example: state owned Airbus is currently running circles around Boeing when it comes to build quality, reliability and efficiency. It's so bad now that Airbus went from a minor player in the 1980's to wrestling the crown from Boeing itself and becoming the biggest plane builder in the world.

State owned enterprises are the next step in socialism. It looks great on paper, and when you have a whole state propping up a business, it looks great. But this all comes at a cost, which is economic ruin. Boeing may be having their bumps, but this kind of market correction is what drives companies to increase efficiency. Plus, they just received some large government contracts (not Airbus), so they're still doing just fine.

These are just a couple of examples of the top of my head. The reality the only thing shareholders care about is extracting wealth. They don't care about building a legacy or even investing in their own communities.

Some kings are good, some slaveholders were (relatively speaking) nice to their slaves. That doesn't change the fact that it means we aren't in control. Being a shareholder is more Democratic.

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– CharlesKirkland2 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

You make a good point, but I wonder why there are not more co-op / nonprofit type healthcare providers. Certainly something I would be interested in. But let's see how DJT plan works out - could be a good one.

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– SidesWithAngels 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

Their population is equivalent to Houston metro. More like a household than a country.

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– Decimusunum 3 points 170 days ago +3 / -0

Medical premiums need to drop about 60% not 10%…

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– Qled 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

Medical costs are expensive because we have the greatest healthcare in the world. If you want it cheaper, you can always go to Mexico. We only provide top quality here in the US.

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– FiatLux 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

No it’s the best of times and the worst of times. If you have some obscure disease then yeah we can probably figure it out. But if you just have regular health issues or emergencies then it’s fucking awful and way overpriced

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– Qled 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

What makes our healthcare system so great is that it is capitalist in nature. This has driven companies to make huge innovations that push healthcare forward. All of the ideas around universal healthcare and insurance are socialist. People complain about the high prices don't understand that the reason we have them is for the shareholders. Those are the people who risk their money to increase innovation, and they deserve compensation for their efforts. Yeah, no one wants to pay $10 for a dose of Tylenol, but none of these people are thinking about the shareholders and how these prices benefit them for their sacrifice.

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– GDZeus [S] 3 points 171 days ago +3 / -0

Post - https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2011845086146150788?s=20

Link in post - https://www.whitehouse.gov/greathealthcare/

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– WRetardsG1WAutistG2 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

"Logical thinking is important, but insufficient. In a maze of deception, you also need to be able to unlearn, and recognise you have been fooled. This is an emotional skill, as it means dealing with a hurt ego and the loss of the "feeling of knowing". The Great Awakening will not be for everyone...

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– nakedjay 2 points 171 days ago +2 / -0

So many shills in the comments on X.

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– FiatLux 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

Probably a lot of bots hired by big pharma to sway public opinion

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– SuckaFree 2 points 170 days ago +2 / -0

The more things change the more they stay the same. SMMFH

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– joanofsnark 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

If we make government grants for Medical and include naturopathic and chiropractic and compounding pharmacy all covered BUT require hospitals use sliding scale insurance or cover the remaining cost of the education of their medical staff THAT would help IMHO. We have met some amazing doctors and nurses and the best doctors were nurse practitioners who went that route to cover their education because they didn’t want the sux figure med school debt so they could practice actually helping people instead of chasing the money. No student debt in exchange for a few days a week in sliding scale clinics would attract a lot of US talent and bringing back public hospitals would take power from pharmaceutical companies who have administrators in their pockets

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– Cuzzo 1 point 170 days ago +1 / -0

Lol. The great Pinto resto…still all killas. Y’all enjoy that

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