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Joe Rogan questions the long COVD narrative. It’s strange that only vaccinated have gotten long COVD. (twitter.com)
posted 107 days ago by ILoveIvermectin 107 days ago by ILoveIvermectin +145 / -0
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– Mr_A 6 points 107 days ago +6 / -0

That happened to me too. Nicotine patch fixed it, though. Way cheaper, and more effective, than all the supplement regimens I tried. Huge improvement, and I haven't taken a supplement since, and haven't felt a need to do so.

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– Mr_A 6 points 107 days ago +6 / -0

Short version- I had a bunch of symptoms, it was kind of a general malaise that I kept at bay by nebulizing and different supplement regimens (see below), but never felt cured. But difficulty breathing was my measuring stick that determined whether I was getting better or needed some kind of treatment.

The nicotine patch solved all the symptoms. The theory is that Covid, long Covid, and the vax are all based on the same poison, which is manufactured by hijacked cells. The reason it sticks around is because it also hijacks cells in your gut's microbiome, which become a reservoir of poison-producing cells hidden from your body's normal disease-fighting tools. But nicotine stops it from reproducing anywhere in your body or in the gut bacteria. This theory came from a chiropractor named Dr. Bryan Ardis. I believe the theory, but even if the theory is off, the result is that it worked. You can search GAW for posts using the term nicotine, and you'll find a bunch of testimonials from other anons. From my perspective you have nothing to lose ($50 or so?) by trying, and a lot to gain. I tried it, and was glad I did.

Longer version- I had Covid back in 2020 before testing was a thing. First symptoms were that I had very irritated eyes, lots of tears/discharge yet no redness. Later had some stomach issues. Didn't think it was Covid for a while, but gradually breathing became worse. During shutdown I had been walking a lot around the neighborhood, and eventually my breathing was extremely difficult, and my pulse oximeter rating was 91. This happened very gradually, developing over a few months. I also had feverish near-delirious sleep for a long time, but no fever. I was in a very bad state, and tired all the time. I didn't feel any specific muscle pain, but I slept so bad that I was super tired and fatigued regardless. The remedy that worked for me then was nebulized hydrogen peroxide (some good posts about that too, with anon experience in the comments, but the nicotine patch is much easier). Overnight difference! I slept great for the first time in 2 months, brain fog cleared (hadn't noticed before because it had happened so gradually), and I felt energetic. But after awhile symptoms returned, and by symptoms I mean breathing difficulty.

Basically I became very sensitized to ease of breathing and how quickly I became tired, and that became my barometer: whenever it got a little bit bad, I started nebulizing again, would do it for a few days and I'd be back to "normal" which was actually less than normal. But another 6-8 weeks and it would happen again, and I'd repeat the cycle. After awhile I tried different protocols- time of vitamin C, D, ivermectin, fenbendazole, NAC, the Zelenko protocol, another with bromelain + NAC + something else. I gave each one a solid go, but eventually would get the trouble breathing again.

Until I did the nicotine patch. Did it for 2 weeks, and haven't looked back. That's my story.

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– N0rds 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

Just any generic nicotine patch from the drug side of any store? Lowest dosage for people who don't do any nicotine, I assume... And how long is the patch on per day? I get nauseous from any nicotine, probably micro dose for me

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– Mr_A 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

Yup, I got Rite Aid brand, "Stage 3" which means the lowest dose, 7mg. The patch is supposed to be on for 24 hours. Given that the purpose is to interrupt the life cycle of the pathogen, it should be used that way, like how they say to use antibiotics. The box has a 2-week supply of 14 patches, but I believe this doctor said one week was enough.

This doctor says nicotine is not addictive despite the labels, and that smokers get addicted because of other additives in cigarettes. Before using the patch I bought lozenges, and they gave me nausea too. I didn't like them. But I had no such reaction to the patches, and I used them for 2 weeks. Also no withdrawal either.

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– N0rds 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

good to know, thanks!

Ill give them a try some time

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– Mr_A 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Hope it helps. Be careful of doctors. Often a diagnosis (i.e., lupus) just means they are switching from "we can make you better" to "we'll help you learn to live with the symptoms." And they're trained to search for a diagnosis. My sense is that the nicotine will stop any progression of symptoms, and then the symptoms will resolve with a little time.

By the way--- from what I understand, nebulized peroxide, MMS, and drinking ozonated water all work in the same way and are all known as different types of oxygen therapy, almost like a poor man's hyperbaric oxygen chamber. They energize the blood stream (which feels good!) and seem to help with everything.

As I said above, I hope it helps. I felt worried and insecure about my health before, and wouldn't wish that on anybody. Feel free to ask any other questions if they come up

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– ZerroDefex 2 points 104 days ago +2 / -0

I always did find it interesting that the few smokers that I know where among the few to never catch it despite being in one of the claimed risk categories.

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– mac1221 5 points 107 days ago +5 / -0

Millions of Chinese have died and are still dying since the plandemic started. They have their share of sudden deaths linked to jab. Most of them young. The CCP has been covering up the numbers of deaths - like they do everything else. Many people continually are sick - several times a year. The people blame the jab.

I would agree with you about your wife. I am in a similar boat. I already have an autoimmune disorder and when I got sick, I never fully recovered. It's no joke.

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– Mr_A 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Try the nicotine patch. Worked for me. Details in other comment in this thread.

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– mac1221 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

I do use nicotine. It really helped with the brain fog. The fatigue, not so much. But I am grateful to at least be able to think again. I use Nic Nac Lozenges. They were the cleanest product I could find.

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– Mr_A 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

If you're not fully recovered, what's still missing? I have an autoimmune condition also (T1 diabetes). The other thing I did was nebulized hydrogen peroxide. Between those two, and after suffering severely for a few months at the beginning and then chronically for about 2 years after, I feel totally recovered from Covid. Wishing you well however you go forward, but blood oxygenation did a lot for me, independent of the nicotine.

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– mac1221 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

I was already suffering with horrible CFS prior to getting the Rona. I also have Hashimoto's which has never been stable. Mine is complicated with Wilson's syndrome. When I was still working, I was able to afford getting some alternative therapies that really helped. However, now that I am retired, I simply can't afford to continue. Insurance covers none of it.

I have been battling all of this since the 80's after being nailed by a drunk driver that led to 5 months in the hospital and years of recovery. I did manage to recover enough to go back to college and receive a couple of degrees and return to work. But it has always been a struggle for me. When Covid hit, that was when I decided to retire a bit early. Being in clinical practice I knew that being around the vaxxed was going to be even worse for me. So I bowed out. I didn't get sick until the Delta was circulating. The Rona simply accelerated to the next level what was already there. So I can't blame it all on Covid. The nicotine did really help my brain fog and I am grateful. I still use it. Thank you for the well wishes fren.

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– Mr_A 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

Hmm. That's a lot of conditions I'm not familiar with. It seems you have a full plate and you're working on it. But I'll share that the other thing I'm doing is a general long-term detox protocol. I started about 2 years ago, and it's done me a lot of good. My goal is to reverse/resolve my T1 diabetes, and while that hasn't happened yet, I have had a lot of skin improvements (for example I used to have lots of dry skin maybe eczema on my feet and hands and now all the skin there feels new and tender,v also I've had brown spots on my arms and legs disappear to be replaced by normal skin), better energy levels, and am even beginning to re-grow dark hair where it had been completely grey. It's not for everybody because it's a big change: meat-only diet and uses a lot of sea salt. If you're interested it's called the SHP (for Self-Healer's Protocol) and you can check it out at https://darkovelcek.wordpress.com/introduction/. Best

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– mac1221 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

I have done several detoxes over the years. I try to maintain a very clean diet - low carb, no gluten, high protein - free range, grass fed, organics, and lots of Himalayan salt. I drink herbal organic teas that are medicinal with an occasional detox protocol. I have been at this for at least 30+ years just to maintain. Like DM-1, my stuff is all autoimmune related. Those disorders are all next to impossible to effectively cure. Frankly, medicine doesn't really understand the process well, much less treat them. The best we can do is exactly what you are doing. You may not get rid of the DM-1 completely, but it can be better controlled with what you are doing and improve your health overall. That's cool about your hair. Thanks for sharing.

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– weak_plenty 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Did your wife try ivermectin? Some studies talked about creating "self-replicating vaccines," aka bioweapons, and I think the spike protein from covid itself can fuck people up. John Campbell, the blackpilled nurse, talked to some snowboarder who got fucked up from the vaccines and then recovered thanks to ivermectin. If her cells are producing the spike protein like the vaccinated are, ivermectin allows zinc to enter those cells and neutralize the spike proteins.

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– weak_plenty 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

I'm sorry she's going through that, and I hope she gets better. I agree that a whole lot of things are coming together to fuck people up, including the entire suite of vaccines. Before the lockdowns, I vaguely considered myself a liberal and wholeheartedly supported vaccines, but the insanity of those years opened my eyes to just how thoroughly our government poisons us and lies to us.

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– Mr_A 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

By the way, I also had an autoimmune disorder (T1 diabetes) when Covid hit. Probably why I had such problems.

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– JackieDaytona74 8 points 107 days ago +8 / -0

It's very rare, but I've done a lot of research on this and I'm confident that there is a small % of purebloods who DO have "long covid".

This has been the result of talking with a lot of people directly.

Let's not forget that while the Jab was a man-made monstrosity, so was C19 itself.

There are unfortunately a small number of people who did the right thing, avoided the Jab and are still dealing with nasty effects.

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– Mr_A 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Some people were poisoned and recognize it. No need to call them stupid.

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– mac1221 6 points 107 days ago +6 / -0

I have a good friend that never received the jab and is struggling with long Covid that she is being treated for by alternative docs. In fact, she has not received any vaxxines in decades.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 4 points 107 days ago +4 / -0

Biowarfare. Chemtrails. Food. Water

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– mac1221 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Those are all problems. Biowarfare for sure.

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– magaphraust 4 points 107 days ago +4 / -0

Diagnosing long covid is highly, if not completely subjective. Doctors will do a few tests to eliminate other causes, then base the rest on "Did you even get covid?" and "was it bad?" (And I am not exaggerating here, research how this gets diagnosed and you can see for yourself)

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– mac1221 4 points 107 days ago +4 / -0

That is also true of some autoimmune disorders. It is a clinical diagnosis. There are no labs or any other way of diagnosis. I have no doubt that all the usual blood analysis is done to rule other things out. That is not unusual in medicine. This is where a good clinician comes into the picture. Much of good medical diagnosis is based upon a combination of diagnostic results and clinical experience. In the case of long covid, the best you could do would be to run a Covid antibody test. But that would only show that a person was exposed - not that they actually were sick from the Rona. So yes, this diagnosis is clinical.

Many of these clinics are staffed by clinicians that have a lot of experience already under their belts trying to deal with people that traditional medicine has basically ignored or discounted. Many are told they have anxiety or they are depressed. Basically brushed aside - here, take a pill so you won't think about it so much. Never addressing their complaints. These clinics are learning as they go because there is nothing else to help these people who are suffering greatly and who have had their lives turned completely upside down. This is not a top priority for universities or most researchers. I am glad that at least these doctors are trying to do something for these patients. They have helped many. Not everything can be seen in a lab result or an x-ray.

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– Mr_A 3 points 107 days ago +3 / -0

Your friend may benefit from a nicotine patch for a week. It worked for me, and there's really no downside to trying.

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– mac1221 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

She did try it. Didn't help much. She has been using all kinds of different therapies. She said a form of biofeedback helped her a great deal along with some supplements. Nicotine helped me with my brain fog. The horrible fatigue, not so much. Glad you found something that helped you. Thanks for sharing. Many people out there suffering or they know someone that is.

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– Mr_A 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

That's rough. Here's hoping the medbeds arrive in time for us all.

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– mac1221 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

Have experimented some with frequency therapies. We need more research in these areas for sure. Part of my issue is frequency exposure. If I am too close to a tower, I get ill. I have shielded part of my house and don't use wireless anything. That stuff is destroying our health.

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– AfterGlow 4 points 107 days ago +4 / -0

Yea...thanks for nothing. Six years later and 30 million dead with more every day. Lots of knew it was a scam on day one. You're late.

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– Knotnow 4 points 107 days ago +4 / -0

It seems to me that checking the antibodies while undergoing Spike protein lowering treatments (Nattokinase?) would be a good way to check the effectiveness of the treatment.

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– BerlinWallCrosser 3 points 107 days ago +3 / -0

In a long enough period of time, long Covid will be the least of the health problems for the vaccinated.

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– ToxicLibertyism 3 points 107 days ago +3 / -0

Personally, I suspect that an iron deficiency in some people who have had the China-virus is part of the problem. Perhaps the vaxx does make it worse, but I think low iron is a component as well.

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– ZerroDefex 5 points 107 days ago +5 / -0

Given how many people I know who stopped after the second shot and are doing fine I strongly consider that (aside from maybe the boosters being the actual kill shots or most people I know got placebos) is that like the Joker poison in Tim Burton's "Batman" it needs to be combined with other things like diets heavy in processed crap, severe lack of sunlight, and so on. In that movie it wasn't just one product that the Joker poisoned, it was multiple ones with different chemicals that had to enter your body at the same time and combined inside of you to form the poison. In the movie the uncertainty created even more panic and IRL it would create more deniability as no one item can be proven to be killing people.

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– Sumthnag__ 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

In my rather small community most got the jab. My family and a few dozen others declined. Now we are seeing clearly who's who. The jabbed all unfortunately are aging very VERY quickly and look rather pale, weak and shriveled.

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– AzBlaster 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

I have long covid. Which is a thing, by the way. And, no, I didn't get the vaccine. I would never get this MRNA crap to be injected inside of me.

I am absolutely not the same person before and after covid, that's for sure.

Rogan isn't always right, you know.

To those who will accuse me of lying: I don't care about your opinion. I know what I've been going through for the last 5 years and you do not.

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– Mr_A 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Check out what I said in other comments about the nicotine patch. Worked.

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– Adopted-Patriot 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

As my wife and I are pure bloods, we don’t not believe in the Covid ‘scam’, other than it is just another type of flu. The CDC has admitted on its website that since the isotopes for Covid are so minute, there is no test to determine it presence in someone. Instead of a flu jab, my wife and I take colloidal silver on a daily basis and have done so for over seven years. We have yet to have the flu and at most have maybe had mild sniffles.

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– Outrider62 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Have you forgotten? The vaccinated are shedding spike proteins. You hug a vaccinated or come in skin contact, the spike proteins are oozing from their skin. Every time I got sick ( 3 times in 6 yrs) was from hugging someone from church. They had no signs of being sick but one day later, I'm sick. The perfect bioweapon.

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– Countvonhugendong 2 points 106 days ago +2 / -0

This is how it happens. The girl i was with a the time got the shots and almost died twice. Once of myocarditis and then pneumonia. It took so much more than what the doctors wanted to do to get her well. I got sicker than I have ever been in the process. I had to give her azithromycin for a month, not just 5 days, to get the pneumonia gone. We also had to use inhaled hydrogen peroxide. The myocarditis we just had to wait out. Anytime she would even eat her heart rate would go above 250 for about 30 minutes. It was so surreal.

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– Outrider62 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

Oh Lord have mercy. I'm so sorry. You most likely got the spike proteins from her. They are saying now that we can get it from sex with a vaccinated person. Very lonely for a unvaccinated person now. I can attest to this.

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– ZerroDefex 1 point 104 days ago +1 / -0

Except I'm surrounded by supposed "shredders" on a daily basis yet rarely even catch a cold more than once a year. Shedding is fearporn aimed at purebloods IMO. I'm of a similar mind with the "mRNA in meat" fearmongering: the jab that had to be stored in sub-zero temps somehow can also survive being cooked at over 100F?

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– Outrider62 1 point 104 days ago +1 / -0

I don't know, but I'm speaking from my experience only

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 1 point 106 days ago +1 / -0

The ultimate STD without all the fun S stuff. We may have to have a quarantine but it won’t be the unvaxxed. My how the turn tables.

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– Outrider62 1 point 105 days ago +1 / -0

I agree. Every time I've been sick was from hugging a vaccinated person. I hugged a friend who just got the shingles shot and the next day I got a cold sore on my mouth. They are shedding. Every day I take NAC, Quercetin, Zinc and Invermectin once a month. I'm afraid of any injectables now. I had a " friend " who took every shot that offered and is sick all the time. She sees me not getting sick and resents me now. I tried telling anyone who did listen long time ago but they laughed it off. It's sad. No glory being right. Now, I believe the Government is spraying us with chemicals and then microwaving the skys because every time I see lines in the sky and the clouds look like waves, people are sick with respiratory illness. Depopulation right before our eyes

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