Yup, I made a post about this long ago. Getting security clearance involves a credit check because people with much debt are more vulnerable to corruption. So what does our system do? Saddle people with hundreds of thousands in medical school debt and give them clearance over the lives of people who have already been selected for depopulation by the global bankers.
Did anyone else LOL when the reporter said, "What is particularly chilling about this story was how Epstein was able to corrupt an institution -- medicine -- which was supposed to be different."?
I don't want to defend Epstein here, but I'm not sure this is necessarily as scandalous as it appears.
I've worked in a hospital and, outside of the ORs, they're not as clean as you might think. I've also had stitches done in a standard exam room in a doctor's office, which isn't exactly a spotless environment.
Granted, 35 stitches seems like a lot, but more is probably better on the face for cosmetic reasons. Epstein probably had the means for better housekeepers than the low level employees who clean medical facilities. If I had to choose between a NY hospital with whatever shlub was on duty (after waiting likely several more hours) and a quality surgeon on a dining room table, I'd pick the latter.
The doctors were working outside of their licensing and oversight for cash and prizes to keep it quiet because the patients were underage sex workers. Get it now?
I'm guessing you've never had personal relationships with doctors. A lot of stuff happens "off the books" for friends and family. What's documented here doesn't stray far from what I've seen IRL, other than the girl could be an underage sex worker, which is only inferred here.
Compared to the way most docs whore themselves out to pharmaceutical companies, what's documented here seems pretty minor.
We already know from elsewhere in the files that Epstein was pimping underage girls.
One young girl had a serious head injury and got 35 stitches on Epstein’s dining room table“
At a real hospital, doctors are required to report such injuries to the authorities so that they can inquire about abuse. Epstein’s purpose of going outside the system was to avoid reporting the abuse so that similar abuse could continue. The doctors took cash to enable the continued abuse of underaged victims. They swore an oath to do no harm but sold out their oath by covering up harm so that it could continue.
Those larger inferences may be true, but they're not documented in this story.
Of course, maybe all the doctors I've known were part of a secret billionaire pedo network too. Can't be sure because I have as much evidence as is actually in this NYT story.
The entirety of the Epstein Files do not need to be rehashed for every downstream developing story. We can build upon the existing context. Stop being a weasel. You misinterpreted the import of this story at first. That’s ok. When you were corrected, instead of being grateful, your ego kicked in with lame reasoning and avoidance of already-established facts. That’s not ok.
In your anecdotes about doctors doing things off the books, the doctors are doing a favor by charging less money than it would take to go through insurance. That’s the opposite of what’s going on here.
One of these underaged girls could get on a family insurance plan and have the procedure done the conventional way for less money than what Epstein paid. Epstein has to pay these underground doctors more because of their risk premium for doing something so unethical. Otherwise the doctors wouldn’t do it.
We don't know if the girl's parents were aware, involved or even present. We don't know if the doc charted all this. We don't know if the doc reported it. We don't even know if the ATV story is true or what the true extent of the girl's injuries were. All we think we know is that a doctor stitched a girls head injury on a dining room table and that (shockingly) Epstein called people he was already influencing to arrange it. Certainly he would do the same if the situation were nefarious or totally innocent.
You can discount my lived experience about off-the-books medical treatment if you like. You're left with Epstein taking actions that would be explained away without blinking an eye absent more concrete evidence if it were any wealthy person besides Epstein. In fact, I'd bet if Elon did the same, he'd be lauded as a hero for arranging for this girl's care personally with high up people he could trust.
What little we do know in this story certainly warrants an investigation by someone who has access to the pertinent records or lack thereof. Something the NYT either doesn't have or doesn't mention.
Just because Epstein was a despicable human doesn't infer that every single action he took was nefarious or that everyone who did any service for him or benefitted from knowing him is guilty. Otherwise we should hold DJT to that same standard. This is an example of exactly the sort of conclusions that DJT warned about if the files were released. It's no surprise coming from the NYT.
Picking the house isn't the problem. The problem is the young lady probably needs to go to the police for getting whatever injuries due to sexual assaults or whatever the hell was going on.
Yup, I made a post about this long ago. Getting security clearance involves a credit check because people with much debt are more vulnerable to corruption. So what does our system do? Saddle people with hundreds of thousands in medical school debt and give them clearance over the lives of people who have already been selected for depopulation by the global bankers.
Oh you right. You just described them.
If true....whole bunch of people need to have the medical licenses yanked.
I think it shall happen. You know what will happen after that, right? They will all go work in back alley abortion clinic.
Yeah, that Dr. Ting at the center of the story definitely a Chinese Jew.
Did you hear! The NYT reporters have spent weeks investigating.
No explanation on why they ignored Epstein for years though.
It's no wonder their main business is bird cage lining.
You mean bird cage cleaning and being fake news.
You are so smart.
thanks.
Did anyone else LOL when the reporter said, "What is particularly chilling about this story was how Epstein was able to corrupt an institution -- medicine -- which was supposed to be different."?
LoL for sure. This "investigative journalist" somehow managed to miss all six years of medical institutions involvement in the covid plandemic.
Science isn't there any more.
I lol'd when he said, "we presume this is Dr Ting" while showing a very obvious Asian doctor
Ting is a very obvious Asian surname.
So Epstein trusted the $cience?
$cience, not Science.
So the NYTimes is looking into things now? 😎 they have some catching up to do.
Long road to China.
Yes. They even have a token "investigative journalist" or two to shoot their puff pieces.
I guess it pays to have low friends in high places...
I am sure they kiss his shoes.
some TING wong
Howls.
The New York Times disclosed this???
What they said.
I don't want to defend Epstein here, but I'm not sure this is necessarily as scandalous as it appears.
I've worked in a hospital and, outside of the ORs, they're not as clean as you might think. I've also had stitches done in a standard exam room in a doctor's office, which isn't exactly a spotless environment.
Granted, 35 stitches seems like a lot, but more is probably better on the face for cosmetic reasons. Epstein probably had the means for better housekeepers than the low level employees who clean medical facilities. If I had to choose between a NY hospital with whatever shlub was on duty (after waiting likely several more hours) and a quality surgeon on a dining room table, I'd pick the latter.
The doctors were working outside of their licensing and oversight for cash and prizes to keep it quiet because the patients were underage sex workers. Get it now?
I'm guessing you've never had personal relationships with doctors. A lot of stuff happens "off the books" for friends and family. What's documented here doesn't stray far from what I've seen IRL, other than the girl could be an underage sex worker, which is only inferred here.
Compared to the way most docs whore themselves out to pharmaceutical companies, what's documented here seems pretty minor.
Swallow your pride and stop doubling-down.
We already know from elsewhere in the files that Epstein was pimping underage girls.
At a real hospital, doctors are required to report such injuries to the authorities so that they can inquire about abuse. Epstein’s purpose of going outside the system was to avoid reporting the abuse so that similar abuse could continue. The doctors took cash to enable the continued abuse of underaged victims. They swore an oath to do no harm but sold out their oath by covering up harm so that it could continue.
Those larger inferences may be true, but they're not documented in this story.
Of course, maybe all the doctors I've known were part of a secret billionaire pedo network too. Can't be sure because I have as much evidence as is actually in this NYT story.
The entirety of the Epstein Files do not need to be rehashed for every downstream developing story. We can build upon the existing context. Stop being a weasel. You misinterpreted the import of this story at first. That’s ok. When you were corrected, instead of being grateful, your ego kicked in with lame reasoning and avoidance of already-established facts. That’s not ok.
In your anecdotes about doctors doing things off the books, the doctors are doing a favor by charging less money than it would take to go through insurance. That’s the opposite of what’s going on here.
One of these underaged girls could get on a family insurance plan and have the procedure done the conventional way for less money than what Epstein paid. Epstein has to pay these underground doctors more because of their risk premium for doing something so unethical. Otherwise the doctors wouldn’t do it.
The fact is, we don't know the whole story.
We don't know if the girl's parents were aware, involved or even present. We don't know if the doc charted all this. We don't know if the doc reported it. We don't even know if the ATV story is true or what the true extent of the girl's injuries were. All we think we know is that a doctor stitched a girls head injury on a dining room table and that (shockingly) Epstein called people he was already influencing to arrange it. Certainly he would do the same if the situation were nefarious or totally innocent.
You can discount my lived experience about off-the-books medical treatment if you like. You're left with Epstein taking actions that would be explained away without blinking an eye absent more concrete evidence if it were any wealthy person besides Epstein. In fact, I'd bet if Elon did the same, he'd be lauded as a hero for arranging for this girl's care personally with high up people he could trust.
What little we do know in this story certainly warrants an investigation by someone who has access to the pertinent records or lack thereof. Something the NYT either doesn't have or doesn't mention.
Just because Epstein was a despicable human doesn't infer that every single action he took was nefarious or that everyone who did any service for him or benefitted from knowing him is guilty. Otherwise we should hold DJT to that same standard. This is an example of exactly the sort of conclusions that DJT warned about if the files were released. It's no surprise coming from the NYT.
Bullshit. If the situation was totally innocent Epstein would have taken the young girl to the hospital.
A whole network though? How many accidents are people around him having?
Picking the house isn't the problem. The problem is the young lady probably needs to go to the police for getting whatever injuries due to sexual assaults or whatever the hell was going on.
He did this to bypass prying eyes of the law.