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Charlie Kirl gave a 3000 year hack to make yourself happier and less anxious - "I would argue that the more radical you are about the Sabbath the more you're going to get out of it" (www.youtube.com) 𝙱𝙴 𝙻𝙸𝙺𝙴 π™²π™·π™°πšπ™»π™Έπ™΄
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– photobuf 15 points 113 days ago +15 / -0

The Sabbath is a gift from God to man but I am telling you from a former Sabbath keeper, you cannot put anything in front of our salvation by Jesus Christ ALONE. Nothing we do or keep will make us more favorable to God EXCEPT the complete and total surrender to Jesus as our one and only focus. Nothing wrong with keeping the Sabbath but just keep it in the right context.

Many Christians put Sunday worship in the same context as the Sabbath keepers put the Sabbath. They are bot equally wrong. Every day belongs to the Lord. He made them all.

I still keep the Sabbath but not like it is a requirement for a Christian and I am committing a sin by not keeping it.

The Sabbath has it place---along with the Passover and other Feasts that God calls HIS FEASTS in the Bible. They are not the "Jews Feast"! These feast days God calls His along with the Sabbath explain the entire plan of what God is doing and will do in the future.

Be blessed and let's have a Boom week ahead!

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– Mr_A 12 points 113 days ago +12 / -0

As it is written, "Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath."

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– VERITASAEQUITAS 8 points 113 days ago +8 / -0

Amen.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 6 points 113 days ago +6 / -0

Charlie's message has got nothing to do with religion, but something that can actually change your life. But I agree, it should not be observed as some kind of a religious tenet, or with expectation that it will make you move favourable to Jesus or God or anything else.

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– RandoMando2A 1 point 113 days ago +1 / -0

This post is a 7th Day Adventist's dream. LOL! Unfortunately they will take it out of context like most others are doing but for a different reason.

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– ConfirmAndAffirm 4 points 113 days ago +4 / -0

And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 2:16-17

Was it not commanded of Adam and Eve to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Why? Because God said.

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 20:8-11

The difference between the Sabbath and the Sunday is in what authority you are deciding to follow. The Sabbath is the visible answer to choosing the authority of God. Why? Because God said.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

By knowingly keeping a day that is not ordained in the law, then that very same law is being transgressed.

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15

But the Sabbath is not to be kept as works in order to earn salvation as wages. If this was the case, then the Creator would be indebted to the creation and the meaning of the Sabbath, as the recognition of God as the Creator and Redeemer of all things, would be flipped on its head.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1 John 5:2-3

The Sabbath is kept as an outflow of love. The context absolutely does matter, and this is the the simplest, most straight-forward way to begin understanding the context.

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– photobuf 4 points 113 days ago +4 / -0

I will have to disagree since you overlook what the Jerusalem Council said regarding the Law for Christian converts. The Jews were demanding the converts to Christianity to keep the Law---which was the Old Covenant--- the 10 Commandments were kept in the Ark of the COVENANT--and the council told Paul who objected to the Jews demanding the converts keep the Law that the new converts were to "Act 15:20Β  But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.Β "-------

Read all of Acts 15.

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– ConfirmAndAffirm 1 point 113 days ago +1 / -0

This is Acts 15:20:

But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

These are the Ten Commandments:

I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. Exodus 20:2-17

There is zero mention of the Ten Commandments in what you termed the "Jerusalem Council in regards for the Law for Christian converts".

This is the "old" covenant:

I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jeremiah 31:33

This is the "new" covenant:

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Hebrews 8:10

The two are exactly the same.

Now what Acts 15 is referring to is the ceremonial law, also called the law of ordinances, or the handwriting of ordinances. Let us do a short Bible study to affirm this as true.

Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. Deuteronomy 31:26

The ceremonial law, which was a shadow of things to come, were to remain on the side of the ark as a constant reminder of the condition of a fallen humanity. It served as a constant representation of the condition of man, and its instruction was meant to lead the minds to dwell on the Ten Commandments found within the Ark of the Covenant.

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:14-17

The Handwriting of Ordinances, being another name for the ceremonial law placed besides the ark, was fulfilled in its purpose serve as a witness and lead the minds towards Jesus Christ and the confirmation of a better law, being the Ten Commandments.

Now the word for "ordinances" is "dogmas" which can mean one of three things: civil law, ceremonial law, or ecclesiastical law. It does not reference ecclesiastical law as that system did not exist to be governed over.

And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him. Mark 12:17

And civil law is referenced here, which is in regards to civil obedience placed in stark contrast which is what to be rendered unto God, which is moral obedience (as an outflow of understanding and love) towards His commandments. Therefore, the dogma of ordinances, even in the language, must be referring to the ceremonial law. But let us go even further.

And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Ezekiel 45:17

Something to understand is that the New Testament unlocks the Old Testament and the Old Testament locks the New Testament rigidly into place. One can not be without the other, and what Paul is referring to is found here in Ezekiel. All of the details of the ceremonial law were to lead man unto reconciliation with the Creator, while the Sabbath and the Ten Commandments, the better promise, are about the restoration of the relationship and the declaration of Jesus Christ.

And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the Lord, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the Lord. Leviticus 23:18

The meat and drink offering are referring to the Feast of Weeks, a part of the ceremonial law as referenced in Acts 15. These have been "taken out of the way", as spoken of in Colossians 2:14.

When I remember these things, I pour out my soul in me: for I had gone with the multitude, I went with them to the house of God, with the voice of joy and praise, with a multitude that kept holyday. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. And if thou sell ought unto thy neighbour, or buyest ought of thy neighbour's hand, ye shall not oppress one another: According to the number of years after the jubile thou shalt buy of thy neighbour, and according unto the number of years of the fruits he shall sell unto thee: According to the multitude of years thou shalt increase the price thereof, and according to the fewness of years thou shalt diminish the price of it: for according to the number of the years of the fruits doth he sell unto thee. Psalm 42:4, Leviticus 23:6; 25:14-16

The holyday is in reference to annual feasts and holy days as too described here in the ceremonial law and whose practiced is describe in Psalm 42:4.

Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. Beside the burnt offering of the month, and his meat offering, and the daily burnt offering, and his meat offering, and their drink offerings, according unto their manner, for a sweet savour, a sacrifice made by fire unto the Lord. And to offer all burnt sacrifices unto the Lord in the sabbaths, in the new moons, and on the set feasts, by number, according to the order commanded unto them, continually before the Lord: Psalm 81:3, Numbers 29:6, 1 Chronicles 23:31

The new moon is in reference to the New Moon Feast Days as again described here in the ceremonial law and chronicled again in the book of Chronicles. The sabbaths, plural, is referencing the ceremonial sabbaths which are distinct and different from the Seventh-Day Sabbath. But that is a whole study in an of itself. I will just briefly leave you with the words of Theophilus Brabourne:

There are two laws, a moral law consisting of 10 commandments: all written by the finger of God, upon tables of stone, and a ceremonial law written by Moses and delivered to the people; so are there Sabbaths moral [...] and sabbaths ceremonial [...] by Sabbaths here is meant only ceremonial sabbaths."

Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the Lord your God. It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath. Leviticus 23:24,28,32

And finally, the "sabbath days" of the ceremonial law of Colossians, of the handwriting of ordinances of Acts 15, is in reference to the Feast of Trumpets or the Day of Atonement, all parts of the ceremonial law as seen here in Leviticus.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Genesis 2:2

The Sabbath, quite literally written into every single week, and the Ten Commandments, to be written into the flesh of the heart, can not marked up or changed as if they were writings on paper.

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15

Paul, and all of the disciples and apostles, were full of love. You will find zero mention in the entirety of the New Testament of even the modicum of idea, of even an iota of suggestion, to be done away with the Ten Commandments.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1 John 5:2-3

And this is because the law is not to be followed as an obligation and as a necessity, but as an act of love. Once someone truly studies and understands the meaning of the moral law as written in the Ten Commandments, once the law becomes inscribed in the heart and the character of Jesus, as written in His law, becomes better understood, then the heart will not be able to restrain itself from acting in harmony His beautiful instruction. This obedience is not a wage to be earned, but a consequence of understanding the wage which was paid, in full, by Jesus.

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– photobuf 2 points 113 days ago +2 / -0

I know all this but it makes no difference. The Ten Commandments WERE the Old Covenant. God said you do this and I will do that. The New Covenant is spiritual. Jesus said so in His Sermon on the Mount. The Law is spiritual and written in our hearts. The Sabbath of the Old Covenant was a day of rest for the people of God. The Sabbath of the New Covenant is spiritual and we have our rest in Christ to cease from "WORKS".

There is ZERO mention in Acts about the Ten Commandments because the Law of works was replaced by the New Covenant.The early church kept the Sabbath but they did NOT command that converts to Christ be weighed down by the law that neither their fathers or them could keep.

If you want to keep the Sabbath, more power to you but to say we could lose our salvation by not keeping is blasphemy!

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– winn 1 point 108 days ago +1 / -0

Re: Jeremiah 31

if you go back two verses it is shown that verse 33 cannot be the Old Covenant. The covenant in verse 33 is distinct from the covenant just referenced in 31-32, which is the actual Old Covenant.

After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

after what days? remember Jeremiah was prophesying in Babylon during the captivity, prior to the Second Temple era, and centuries before the Third Temple era, aka the era of Christ Jesus. (destroy this temple...)

Jesus paying the price for sin on the cross is what caused God "to forgive our iniquity and remember our sin no more", right?

Jeremiah foresaw the New Covenant, some 600-ish years in the future. But it would be a long haul up until it, with God even withholding all communication with backslidden Israel after Malachi was sent.

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– Yeetthedems 3 points 113 days ago +3 / -0

I always tell people, Gods love language is obedience πŸ™

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– photobuf 1 point 113 days ago +1 / -0

Yes it is.

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