Basically natural HCQ. Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was discovered during efforts to synthesize alternatives to quinine as anti-malarials. Hydroxychloroquine, developed in the 1950s from chloroquine, an old anti-malarial drug, is registered in around 60 countries under several trade names.
Wormwood is one of the few herbs that was mentioned in Culpeper as useful as a purge for worms, but also in the Barefoot Doctor's Manual - which was a comprehensive attempt to deliver on-the-ground helpful medical knowledge to Chinese people during their troubled times, after the Opium lords were expelled and rooted out.
My point is: Wormwood was known about, in Medieval Europe, as well as by the herbalists in China, when the government did not have the resources to fund a Medical Industrial Complex (like in America), but needed an honest medical resource for remote villagers.
OK so starting from the Middle ages, when people learned distillation, it was known that 'spirit' was able to be a carrier of medicinal properties.
So, this establishes the folk use-case of alcohol.
Furthermore, Wormwood was advised as a folk-remedy during Covid, in China.
Another data point: Wormwood can be used when farming organically, to de-worm lifestock. AS usual, animals have better access to medicine than humans.
OK, then: I have long held that some of the fave tipples were based on medicine.
Cases in point:
_ Rum&cloves. In a recent bout of a gum-flare-up, I tried a culpeper mouth-wash. Literally rum, with clove oil. A sip, which is held in the mouth and swirled around. It works very well. This was also the navy's ration, for sailors who suffered scurvy, and would have done that exact thing (i.e. hold it in the mouth, to prolong the medicinal effect).
Absinthe can do that as well. The anti-septic part (although super bitter in the mouth) literally throbs the pain way, but even helps greatly when applied topically on boils, open cuts, bruises etc..
Drambuie captures a honey/whiskey situation: The honey adds an antibiotic factor. On advice from an old Scot, My mother 'cured' me like that when I was a child, where when I was down with a fever and a sore throat, she mixed a nip of Drambuie with hot water and made me drink it. I fell into a deep sleep and woke bathing in sweat, feeling better.
Then there is the brandy/eggyolk (Advocaat) that is restoratve, even in emergency situation - as in: it can save a dog's life, if in shock. But well-known (In Netherlands) as a hangover remedy (LOL) and a tipple for the old folks on special occasions - the theory is to keep them happy with rosy cheeks - (hey, at least they get an egg-yolk)
"she mixed a nip of Drambuie with hot water and made me drink it"
My mom would give us sips of a Hot Toddy! for a fever, cold whatever.
I remember from reading books, how often Brandy was used as a restorative, esp for fainting women!
Thanks for the info! I have never tried absinthe, but was told to not ever swallow the worm! So that advice turned me away from the drink!
YES I use clove oil on the gums! and for bad taste in the mouth. When I have had a tooth ache I put a whole clove between the teeth. I did not know about the rum with the cloves. Yes I did know that sailors got a ration of rum every day.
yes, the rum & cloves was a naval invention. Even in the seventies 'clove syrup' was marketed in grog shops, alongside naval-inspired marketing for various rums.
Also, Gin and Tonic is one of those instances where the Gin is used to mask the bitter, but I suspect Absinthe (flavored with Anise and Liqorice) was a similar idea, because those herbs are truly bitter). That is: instead of a spoonful-of-sugar-makes-the-medicine-go-down, a nip of alcohol is used ...
I tried making a feverfew mead, but it wasn't pleasant.
Very easy to make, just boil lemon rind and grapefruit rinds in water. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/nQWyCVdL5C8 she calls it hydroxychlorquin but its tonic water.
The VA used to give my dad quinine in a pill for his leg cramps. They quit prescribing it with the excuse that a couple/few vets had reactions to it. It makes me wonder now why they really stopped prescribing it. His doctor told him that it was previously an old malaria treatment at the time.
Yes, it did. He was kind of bummed when they took it and replaced it with diphenhydramine, (Benadryl). That made him sleepy. This was 20 years ago. God, rest his soul.
Fun fact! This is where we get happy hour. The medicine last about 12 hours in your body. So at the end of the day, just before supper, soldiers were required to take it. Because it was bitter, they started mixing it with gin.
When they got back home, they didn't stop drinking and it became a social hour.
For decades sold it otc for nocturnal leg cramps.
One day it just became illegal. No warning.
Pickle juice is my go to now.
Great for leg cramps and stops espohogeal spasms in their tracks. Tastes good, too.
Just a swig outta the jar. Ca++, Mg++, Na+, and othe trace minderals.
If you cant stomach that, Ca++, Mg++, Zn++ multi-mineral works geeat, too. NatureMade makes a good one.
Fyi.
There’s also an old video from cspan with Fauci saying HCQ is unique because it’s a preventative and cure for corona viruses. Of course. The video has been scrubbed. 403 error.
Over 80,000,000 people have died from malaria since DDT was banned. Simple regulations on its use could have spared the birds, killed the mosquitos, and saved many many lives.
Basically natural HCQ. Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was discovered during efforts to synthesize alternatives to quinine as anti-malarials. Hydroxychloroquine, developed in the 1950s from chloroquine, an old anti-malarial drug, is registered in around 60 countries under several trade names.
YES and they would NOT let people take HCQ for Covid! or even mention it!
They also actually did outlaw previously approved quinine, in the form of gin and tonics and Dubonnet, see Prohibition.
THAT is what got me wondering. Prohibition? Restrictions of cures for covid??
Coincidence?!?!?!?
Ballroom dancers take tonic/quinine for leg cramps.
Now do Wormwood and Absinthe
?? "Wormwood contains various compounds that may have antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory properties."
anti-parasitical also.
Wormwood is one of the few herbs that was mentioned in Culpeper as useful as a purge for worms, but also in the Barefoot Doctor's Manual - which was a comprehensive attempt to deliver on-the-ground helpful medical knowledge to Chinese people during their troubled times, after the Opium lords were expelled and rooted out.
My point is: Wormwood was known about, in Medieval Europe, as well as by the herbalists in China, when the government did not have the resources to fund a Medical Industrial Complex (like in America), but needed an honest medical resource for remote villagers.
OK so starting from the Middle ages, when people learned distillation, it was known that 'spirit' was able to be a carrier of medicinal properties.
So, this establishes the folk use-case of alcohol.
Furthermore, Wormwood was advised as a folk-remedy during Covid, in China.
Another data point: Wormwood can be used when farming organically, to de-worm lifestock. AS usual, animals have better access to medicine than humans.
OK, then: I have long held that some of the fave tipples were based on medicine.
Cases in point:
_ Rum&cloves. In a recent bout of a gum-flare-up, I tried a culpeper mouth-wash. Literally rum, with clove oil. A sip, which is held in the mouth and swirled around. It works very well. This was also the navy's ration, for sailors who suffered scurvy, and would have done that exact thing (i.e. hold it in the mouth, to prolong the medicinal effect).
Absinthe can do that as well. The anti-septic part (although super bitter in the mouth) literally throbs the pain way, but even helps greatly when applied topically on boils, open cuts, bruises etc..
Drambuie captures a honey/whiskey situation: The honey adds an antibiotic factor. On advice from an old Scot, My mother 'cured' me like that when I was a child, where when I was down with a fever and a sore throat, she mixed a nip of Drambuie with hot water and made me drink it. I fell into a deep sleep and woke bathing in sweat, feeling better.
Then there is the brandy/eggyolk (Advocaat) that is restoratve, even in emergency situation - as in: it can save a dog's life, if in shock. But well-known (In Netherlands) as a hangover remedy (LOL) and a tipple for the old folks on special occasions - the theory is to keep them happy with rosy cheeks - (hey, at least they get an egg-yolk)
"she mixed a nip of Drambuie with hot water and made me drink it"
My mom would give us sips of a Hot Toddy! for a fever, cold whatever.
I remember from reading books, how often Brandy was used as a restorative, esp for fainting women!
Thanks for the info! I have never tried absinthe, but was told to not ever swallow the worm! So that advice turned me away from the drink!
YES I use clove oil on the gums! and for bad taste in the mouth. When I have had a tooth ache I put a whole clove between the teeth. I did not know about the rum with the cloves. Yes I did know that sailors got a ration of rum every day.
the 'worm' comes from tequila, not absinthe.
Wormwood looks like this https://www.gardenia.net/plant/artemisia-absinthium
OH!
yes, the rum & cloves was a naval invention. Even in the seventies 'clove syrup' was marketed in grog shops, alongside naval-inspired marketing for various rums.
Also, Gin and Tonic is one of those instances where the Gin is used to mask the bitter, but I suspect Absinthe (flavored with Anise and Liqorice) was a similar idea, because those herbs are truly bitter). That is: instead of a spoonful-of-sugar-makes-the-medicine-go-down, a nip of alcohol is used ...
I tried making a feverfew mead, but it wasn't pleasant.
Very easy to make, just boil lemon rind and grapefruit rinds in water. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/nQWyCVdL5C8 she calls it hydroxychlorquin but its tonic water.
YES I remember that recipe!~ Thanks for reminding me!
The VA used to give my dad quinine in a pill for his leg cramps. They quit prescribing it with the excuse that a couple/few vets had reactions to it. It makes me wonder now why they really stopped prescribing it. His doctor told him that it was previously an old malaria treatment at the time.
yeah MDs do not know, they now mostly follow the protocols handed down to them, but by whom?? AMA, drug companies, AI??
Did it help his leg cramps though?
Yes, it did. He was kind of bummed when they took it and replaced it with diphenhydramine, (Benadryl). That made him sleepy. This was 20 years ago. God, rest his soul.
I don't get it. Something helps, take it away??
ANYWAY God Bless you and your Dad!! Your testimony is important.
God bless you, fren, and thank you.
Quinine has the same taste as the gumball you find on a pine tree that every kid in the south tasted because it looked chewy. Kek
I drink diet tonic water with a squeeze of lime each night with dinner. It contains quinine and is sugar-free. Have been doing so for years now.
That is the important part. But the Brits have the gin too!
Heh.... well they're welcome to my share of gin, I stopped drinking alcohol 40 years ago.
Had I been drinking gin, I would have stopped too!
CONGRATULATIONS!!! 40 years, you will not be tempted by vodka either!!
Nope, that stuff nearly killed me. I have a new life now, clean and sober. Life is good.
!!!!! God Bless you fren!
No worries ,we call you a quitter,LOL,G & T's are a Happy Hour thang round here,When mixed properly ,nothin better.
I guess...better late than never, right?
Fun fact! This is where we get happy hour. The medicine last about 12 hours in your body. So at the end of the day, just before supper, soldiers were required to take it. Because it was bitter, they started mixing it with gin.
When they got back home, they didn't stop drinking and it became a social hour.
Cheers!
do not know
For the first two years during covid I drink tonic water everyday
We had some on hand!, but I never had covid symptoms.
A Beefeater fan, I am.
For decades sold it otc for nocturnal leg cramps. One day it just became illegal. No warning.
Pickle juice is my go to now. Great for leg cramps and stops espohogeal spasms in their tracks. Tastes good, too. Just a swig outta the jar. Ca++, Mg++, Na+, and othe trace minderals.
If you cant stomach that, Ca++, Mg++, Zn++ multi-mineral works geeat, too. NatureMade makes a good one. Fyi.
we used to drink pickle juice!
Yes my husband actually has a prescription for night leg cramps. It helps, not not a cure.
https://youtu.be/NUKv1LfbClI?si=FvF4SpJ7FnGXgt7M
OH it is just as good for influenza! Who woulda thought?
Thanks for finding this!!
There’s also an old video from cspan with Fauci saying HCQ is unique because it’s a preventative and cure for corona viruses. Of course. The video has been scrubbed. 403 error.
so remember Dubonnet and gin and tonic and etc etc
https://youtube.com/shorts/h6O1TLf5JlQ?si=0g9504RCzfgGsCCp
Over 80,000,000 people have died from malaria since DDT was banned. Simple regulations on its use could have spared the birds, killed the mosquitos, and saved many many lives.
Then there are the ppl who want millions or billions fewer homo sapiens on the planet.