Some here take a couple of Q's ("necessary disinformation") drops to mean that China is our "secret fren."
So then perhaps they think the Chinese are buying up land all around our military bases to protect said bases during the storm, when the SHTF.
Wow... are you guys ok?? 😂
Firstly, imagine you're the highest mafia boss and the FBI puts out on Twitter that YOU are secretly working with LAW ENFORCEMENT to bring down the rest of the mafia(s)…
Congratulations. There's a high chance you're a dead man walking.
Tag: Xi Jinping
THAT is how I always understood Q's few insinuations that China/Xi is working with the white hats.
Next, Do Anons understand the relevance of the fact that the Great Wall of China, as it were, was built to contain something from China? Complete with archer ports facing China and entrance ramps on the opposite side.
To friends who didn't know that, it should be required learning if you think real world history is at all relevant today.
Lastly:
Russia's and the United States' interests naturally align.
Putin's Russia:
• Has not been caught trying to steal our elections.
• Has not been caught with spies acting as drivers for senators.
• Has not been caught with spies acting as mayors of our cities.
• Has not been caught implanting kill switches(!) within our major infrastructure i.e. electric substation transformers et al.
• Has done virtually nothing to systematically undermined the strategic (i.e. long term) security of the United States.
• Has not massively compromised a large swath of our politicians.
• Has not facilitated the importation of deadly poison (fentanyl) into our country, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans.
• Has not sent countless military age men across our southern border. (infiltration)
• Has not bought up (often barren/useless) land near our military bases.
Xi's Communist China has done ALL OF THE ABOVE, and more.
But remember… They're our SeCrEt FreN!
😂 ffs
Because all opinions deserve proper pushback, Tag u/bubble_bursts & u/Fractalizingiron for their thoughtful counter argument to the above points. I want to be wrong so bad, And I am one who loves to have my mind changed. My opinion is yours for the changing.
Also @ u/mods How soon until we can fix the down vote button so I can feel like my opinions are getting proper scrutiny again?
You guys are awesome btw.
There's a difference between Xi and the CCP.
It's understood that there are many factions within the Chinese government. Hopefully, somewhere in the vastness of China's bureaucracy and or military, some of them are white hats. That's despite all the acknowledged evil the country has performed. (BTW, you left out the Chinese overseas police stations in big US and Canadian cities, and Europe too.)
Remember there are countries the USA has ravaged, and whose citizenry have legit grievances, and who could characterize our country as "the enemy." Also that the majority of our federal government has been on the wrong side of humanity for many decades, committing crimes against our own population but mostly against other countries' peoples. Within the U.S. government, Trump and Team Q were vastly outnumbered, at least as far as explicit allegiances were concerned.
If Xi were working with the white hats, it would take time to shake out the bad apples, even while the outward appearances of the CCP did not change. The dynamic would look different from Trump's ascension in the U.S.A. Xi has done a lot of purges within the party, all of which are mired in shadowy political intrigues, defying easy analysis. Him upending China's cabal and turning it upon itself would look different than Trump doing the same over here.
Is he personally on Trump's side? I don't know. But I'm open to the possibility.
If he's on the anti-cabal side, he could be playing a Gorbachev role, presiding over the collapse of his country's government while saving the soul of its people. He could also be allied with Trump to kill the cabal, but with side motivations that have nothing to do with liberating China.
It's a big topic, but I don't think the idea should be dismissed or ridiculed outright. If China truly abandons Iran, it will be a strong signal that at least he's cooperating.
These are some good points, but if you recall correctly, Gorbachev was not taking the aggressive posture towards the west that his predecessors did.
The same cannot be said for Xi. (See the OP)
Didn't Trump say Xi himself stopped the flow of fentanyl into our country during Trump's first term?
Does this imply Xi has enough control to control that?
Does Xi have the power to execute anyone in his country involved in drug production?
Then why doesn't he do it?
In Revelation, there is a whore, there is a beast, and there is a dragon.
Who is the great dragon from Revelation?
What is meant in Revelation by the invading forces sent by "the king(s) of the east"?
I think you underestimate Soviet intelligence ops. They were much more subtle, and it was much easier for them to blend in. China took over their Marxist university ops as much as they started their own.
The many-headed dragon is the Roman Empire that morphed into the many (10) kings of Europe. Obviously that's debatable and subjective, at least until God reveals it. I don't know the answers to your questions. I'm just saying Xi could be helping the Q plan, even while much of his government continues their (hostile) business as usual. This would be like how USAID and the NED were entrenched within our government, but with less transparency due to autocratic factions in a groupthink dictatorial regime.
Big topic. Requires lots of input and lots of analysis.
Much of this is simply open to interpretation. Personally, however, I am much inclined to have a similar take as Mr A here.
My mind goes to The Godfather, and what (the little) I know about organized crime syndicates and crime families. If someone is a mole, in there to take down the whole family, they would have to maintain the appearances, and do some pretty bad things, too.
I'm inclined to believe that Xi is one such figure. Things he does reaffirm that perspective, but the hinge is the starting point. Do you look at things from the angle that Xi is evil (an evil CCP dictator worse than Stalin or Mao)? Do you look at things from the angle that Xi is working to take down the CCP from the inside, and liberate China ultimately?
I like your comment above because you consider multiple scenarios, but this one resonates with my current take the most:
This I think cannot be denied. It's not proof that Xi is 'working with the white hats', but its evidence to that effect. I.e. IF indeed XI were working with the white hats, it does map onto many of the things that are taking place.
AE (u/AmateurExpert/) mentions factions, and this is one thing that MUST be considered, imo.
In the context of a war between good and evil, there is always a mixed situation. All nations have their good guys and their bad guys, with some being more dominant than others.
The reference to Gorbachev is also interesting, and of course, the precedent of Gorbachev does NOT necessarily mean that the emergence of China from a CCP nation to a non-communist or other form of nation would follow the same pattern.
All of the above is true. Write more things the ratio needs you.
Now add in the CCP's sUpEr sPeCiAl fReN ---> City of London
Hidden Dragons
All that is true. Just some food for thought, could it be that President Xi and the majority of the Chinese have a different view and plans than do those directly tied to the CCP? A quick observation shows that to be the current dynamic occurring in Iran, and I see no difference between the ruling Mullahs of Iran being hated by their own people, and a powerful communist party in China doing the same. The "sorting" may prove difficult.
Agreed. I’ve been taking the whole “sovereign alliance” of Trump, Xi and Putin with a large grain of salt. Especially in regards to Chy-na.
Yes, but there is a big difference between 'Putin's Russia' and 'Xi's China'. A massive difference.
Let's assume the premise that a nation under the control of the Marxist-Leninist ideology (in whatever variance) is under (what I prefer to call) Satanic dominion. I.e. Marxist ideology (and its variants) are satanic thought, the culmination of satanic ideology on the global level. Complete denial of God and God-based principles.
Russia was liberated from this satanic dominion in 1991. Yes, chaos, but as a whole, Russia was liberated. Note also how Putin emphasized in his interview with Snucker Tarlson, how the USA and Europe (under Bush, etc) wanted to NOT help Russia, not include Russia, and told them to pound sand when Russia proposed, "hey, comon, lets work together now!"
China in 2026 is a country still under that satanic thralldom. It has not yet been released; it is a captured country. As such ANY forces, whether Xi or whoever, working to liberate China would be working 'behind enemy lines'.
And Russia's interests and <ahem> 'the United States' interests' only align because Trump is taking back the USA from the satanic control that almost reached its zenith. America almost fell. And if you ask Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, did (do) they think that Russia's natural interests align with the United State's interests? I think the answer is no. They want a satanic America.
Behind Enemy Lines
If you read biographies or stories from people working behind enemy lines, in enemy territory, under control of an enemy, you can see first hand what is involved. In reality.
Think about the high-level people in Germany who wanted to kill Hitler towards the end of the war, once they understood how insane Hitler was. High level patriots, where one mistake meant death.
Do you really think the Soviet Union all fell apart in one month, or a year? How many decades of work inside the Soviet Union, by many people who died, were tortured, etc, before the USSR got to that point where the Russians threw off that cloak? Uncountable martyrs.
Personal anecdotes to illustrate.
One. In the late 80s' I was working at an international conference for an international NGO (not ALL NGOs are evil, by the way, only the captured ones) where I was working very closely with the organizers. I met a young man in his late 20s/ early 30s who had been invited from the top organizer to attend this 'conference'. He was an American, living in Moscow, and was essentially an underground missionary. He had been given the mission to go into the Soviet Union to lay a foundation for spreading Christianity, secretly from a very prominent anti-communist group. He described to me in tears what it was like.
He lived there with his wife, and he explained how the KGB had surveillance on them, everywhere, inside their apartment, bugged, etc. They could not talk about their faith, have any books that showed their faith. He explained this was pure mental and emotional torture, but he was determined and dedicated, at the risk of his life.
Two. I have friends who, after the collapse of the USSR, were sent by an affiliated organization to go into Russia and spread religious ideas and principles, to a people that had been without any open religion or religious education for 7 decades. My friend told me how the people were extremely thirsty for religious-based ideas, for learning about Christian principles, about educating themselves in the context of an ideological perspective that accepts the existence of God. Liberated.
Well, yes. I personally believe that God's desire is to liberate China. And if that process were underway, well, compared to Russia, China is way, way early in that timeline. Russia today has been liberated for what, 30 years? Putin et al gained the upper hand, purged the oligarchs, and have been driving a free vehicle for many years.
And, until Trump came on the scene, anyone doing anything in China was still very much without allies in the West. (Because the West has been captured, even if not lost, for a long time.)
So, yeah, if we have friends in China, they are still going to be 'SeCrEt FreNs'. Sure, that's an 'IF', but if it is the case, could it be any other way?
If one reads the signals from Trump, Putin, Xi, then it looks like things are getting closer and closer. Who does Trump criticize, and burn? Who does Trump praise, and say "I get one very well with <him>". That's comms, right there, if you ask me. Not even secret comms. It's coded language, out there in the open. Coded because many people cannot even understand it, even if they see it. Open, because its clear to those that get it. (IMO).
Conclusion: I think, personally, to get a clearer picture on what is going on, one has to step right back from the picture, and try different angles. A comparison of Russia vs China has to take into consideration that in terms of 'liberation from satanic dominion', Russia is 30 years on, but China is still (at least) a few years away. Maybe they are close. Who knows. But its pretty clear they aren't there yet, imo.
The reason why a lot of Anons think Trump, Putin and Xi are working together is because of Q drop 140 (Which incidentally was brought back when it was announced that Trump was taking off at 1:40PM to China)
The way I have read it always is that Xi and Putin and their respective WHs within their country have made alliances with Trump, but each have their own deep state under them that they can't overtly overthrow without destabilising their own country / position. So each is helping the others defeat the Cabal factions within their own country.
Funnily, I would add "Biden" to this mix as well.
A lot of times, the actions done by Xi, Putin an even Biden, looks like its helping the Cabal, or hurting US, in short term. But in longterm it ends up actually helping the MAGA.
Concrete examples: Xi put export controls on rare earth exports. This allowed Trump to deals with various countries including Japan and Australia to develop local rare earth mining and refining to decentralize and de-risk in the long term.
Putin waged war on Ukraine, and Biden sanctioned Russia and allowed freezing their sovereign assets. This allowed Russia and China to disengage from the Fiat Petro dollar system. In the short term it looks like they were gonna destroy the dollar with the Cabal's BRICs system.
But come Trump in 2025 and Russia reaffirmed that it wont ditch the dollar. Who got hurt actually? Europe!
Trump captured Maduro and attacked Iran. And it put pressure on Xi. Now whatever internal opposition he had to stop him from making deals with Trump evaporated and Trump was able to open up China, and also make them buy US oil.
This last bit is something that everyone is completely glossing over. The entire existence of China as a wannabe-superpower was based on their cheap oil imports from sanctioned oil. For China to accept to buy US oil is nothing short of accepting to level the playing field, and effectively put an end to their desire for world dominance through financial hook and crook.
Now coming to the specific question of Chinese ownership of farmlands in US, and Trump's comments on the recent interview with Hannity.
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This is getting folks going crazy. I get it. "OH MY GOD, Trump said its okay to let Chinese have farms near military bases".
When you research on this topic, regardless of what Trump says here, you will see that since his come back in 2025, they have been steadily making progress on this front. According to Grok:
So why would Trump say this while he was in China making a deal with Xi ? To me it reeks of "opening a fake flank" tactic he always uses. Like the matador waving the red towel. So the bull can charge in the wrong direction, and it seems to be working. I think some historic changes are happening in the background because of the deals made in China and these Chinese farmland and Chinese students issues will keep a lot of pundits occupied.
Ymmv, but regarding this:
I think “factions”. One faction is working with us, and one faction is buying up land, and likely each is infiltrated by the other.
Makes a lot more sense that way, but yes obviously China is not flipped in full and wholly working with us as a fully trusted ally. 100%.
Enemies can be temporary allies when the situation warrants.
That being said, I don't trust any govt or it's leaders when it comes to what the true Will of The People is.
Those same allies in one hour, will also work to stab you in the back in the next hour. And a lot of times, while they've allied with us on certain issues, are simultaneously working to thwart us on other issues.
It's like one of my best friends in H.S. Me and this dude did almost everything together. We played H.S. football together as linebackers. We worked out together both in the weight room and outside. We worked together at the local movie theater. I picked him up every day for school. We hung out for probably 18+ hours/day for years. We even eventually joined the Navy together with another good friend from our squad. But, after H.S., when I went to college at a premier private university here in FL, everything changed. His true colors started showing out. In one breath he'd talk well about me, especially if I was part of that conversation, or he'd make it seem like he was a great friend. In the next breath he was talking shit behind my back and working to bring me down for no real apparent reason other than petty jealousy because I had the ability to better myself in ways he wanted but wouldn't work hard enough to attain. Not my fault, but it became my problem. Eventually, it all came to a head and I walked away from the friendship. Just about every other friendship I've had has unfortunately turned out the same way. People are petty and say and do petty shit whenever it suits their needs and interests. Nations are the same.
Anyway, that's the relationship between nations and leaders. Even our "strongest" "allies," Britain and Israel, constantly work behind our backs to bring us down as it suits their needs in various areas.
It's stupid, but it's the way things have been done since the very beginning of human history. It's become so ingrained in us on such a fundamental level, I don't know that we can ever overcome this shortcoming so we can truly come together and heal humanity.