I remember him mentioning a while ago that the weapons sent to Iranians did not reach the people, but hadn't mentioned who took it.
Now it makes sense because Kurds have been one of the stickiest assets of the City. And their history is tragic. They were kicked left, right and in the nuts by the same City and yet in the end they chose to be loyal to the same masters. They were asking for trouble.
The US government has betrayed the Kurdish people approximately 4 to 7 times over the last century, consistently leveraging Kurdish forces for strategic goals before abandoning them when political interests shifted. These incidents span from post-WWI diplomatic failures to recent military withdrawals in Syria, creating a pattern historians describe as "cynical enterprises" where Kurdish aspirations for statehood are sacrificed for regional stability or alliances with Turkey, Iran, and Iraq.
Post-WWI Diplomatic Abandonment (1920s): The US and Western powers initially backed the Treaty of Sèvres (1920), which envisaged a possible Kurdish state, but shifted support to the new Turkish Republic under the Treaty of Lausanne (1923). This reversal left Kurds stateless and divided among Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran, marking the first major diplomatic betrayal.
Cold War Instrumentalism (1972–1975): The Nixon administration and Henry Kissinger armed Iraqi Kurds to pressure Baghdad and weaken Soviet influence, only to abruptly cut support after the 1975 Algiers Accord between Iran and Iraq. Kissinger famously stated that "covert action should not be confused with missionary work," leaving Kurds exposed to brutal Iraqi reprisals without humanitarian aid or asylum.
Gulf War and Post-2003 Limitations: In 1991, President George H.W. Bush urged Iraqis to rise up against Saddam Hussein, but the US allowed Iraqi forces to crush the Kurdish uprising before later imposing a no-fly zone. Decades later, despite close cooperation against ISIS, the US opposed the 2017 KRG independence referendum and failed to prevent Baghdad from retaking disputed territories like Kirkuk.
Syria Withdrawals (2019 and 2025–2026): The most recent betrayals occurred when President Trump withdrew troops in October 2019, clearing the way for a Turkish offensive against Syrian Kurdish allies (YPG/SDF). By January 2026, US envoy Tom Barrack pressured Kurds into a flawed integration agreement with the Syrian Transitional Government to appease former adversaries, forcing them to choose between "survival over illusion" as US credibility in the region eroded.
I was forgetting about the Syria thing as commented on below. That one seems a real mystery - backing a ISIS leader who then leading the group slaughtering every other group it seems, like Christians, and including the Kurds. (not super familiar with who is slaughtering who at any given moment over there however).
Ya know if they had done what Trump said, they would have been given preferred status on weapons, aid and everything else but the FAed and now they will FO.
Come on. We tried an intermediary again? We’ve known since the Cold War it’s a strategy with not insignificant odds of failure. As millions in guns and ammo is extremely tempting for people to you know just keep.
We’ve got a massive logistics network and more Black Ops/Plausible deniability units that you can shake a stick at.
Was it really impossible to drive a few Semi’s across an especially remote sector of border? Or yeet pallets of guns and ammo out the back of low flying C-130s to get picked up by contacts on the ground or something?
Hell. They could have landed a few planes on Desert Runways Ala the rescue. Do it under the cover of night in time with strike waves as cover.
You can unload direct to your contacts. And given Irans current heavy reliance on Militia for internal security. Your contacts have ready made cover to be rolling around with Trucks full of weapons. With few questions being asked.
Good. This absolves us from any perceived loyalty we had for the Kurds. That has burdened us for years. They have been exposed like the other countries who have failed to assist us in the Iran conflict.
I don’t have any issues with the Kurds. We are America first. They are Kurds first. We can still be allies in certain situations. But it seems like there is the “what about the Kurds” crowd that we can ignore now.
The Iraqi Kurds are a separatist group. They are nothing like the Iranian Kurds that are not separatists and want to remain part of Iran. In fact, they don't trust the Iraqi Kurds and if anyone would have bothered to ask them about this hairbrained plan they would have said it wouldn't work.
Trump was right and it proves the lack of Western analysts' understanding of the ME. I place this ignorance on par with that of their level of understanding about the Chicoms. Trump needs advice from real Iranians and Chinese that know their own situations better than some American Western educated know it all that did not experience growing up and living under these repressive authoritarian regimes.
Wonder if he’s referring to the same Kurds known to be able to take on anyone at anytime. Those Kurdish fighters are legit. Basically born and breed for war. Or are we talking about another bunch?
I remember him mentioning a while ago that the weapons sent to Iranians did not reach the people, but hadn't mentioned who took it.
Now it makes sense because Kurds have been one of the stickiest assets of the City. And their history is tragic. They were kicked left, right and in the nuts by the same City and yet in the end they chose to be loyal to the same masters. They were asking for trouble.
The US government has betrayed the Kurdish people approximately 4 to 7 times over the last century, consistently leveraging Kurdish forces for strategic goals before abandoning them when political interests shifted. These incidents span from post-WWI diplomatic failures to recent military withdrawals in Syria, creating a pattern historians describe as "cynical enterprises" where Kurdish aspirations for statehood are sacrificed for regional stability or alliances with Turkey, Iran, and Iraq.
Post-WWI Diplomatic Abandonment (1920s): The US and Western powers initially backed the Treaty of Sèvres (1920), which envisaged a possible Kurdish state, but shifted support to the new Turkish Republic under the Treaty of Lausanne (1923). This reversal left Kurds stateless and divided among Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran, marking the first major diplomatic betrayal.
Cold War Instrumentalism (1972–1975): The Nixon administration and Henry Kissinger armed Iraqi Kurds to pressure Baghdad and weaken Soviet influence, only to abruptly cut support after the 1975 Algiers Accord between Iran and Iraq. Kissinger famously stated that "covert action should not be confused with missionary work," leaving Kurds exposed to brutal Iraqi reprisals without humanitarian aid or asylum.
Gulf War and Post-2003 Limitations: In 1991, President George H.W. Bush urged Iraqis to rise up against Saddam Hussein, but the US allowed Iraqi forces to crush the Kurdish uprising before later imposing a no-fly zone. Decades later, despite close cooperation against ISIS, the US opposed the 2017 KRG independence referendum and failed to prevent Baghdad from retaking disputed territories like Kirkuk.
Syria Withdrawals (2019 and 2025–2026): The most recent betrayals occurred when President Trump withdrew troops in October 2019, clearing the way for a Turkish offensive against Syrian Kurdish allies (YPG/SDF). By January 2026, US envoy Tom Barrack pressured Kurds into a flawed integration agreement with the Syrian Transitional Government to appease former adversaries, forcing them to choose between "survival over illusion" as US credibility in the region eroded.
Trump further stated “We actually sent them weapons, and we were VERY disappointed by the Kurds, to be honest with you."
Unfortunately the Kurds got shafted during the Iraq war. They have no reason to trust the U.S.
Trump is not Bush/cabal. They should have known better - he has given 10 years of evidence on this. If they are too stupid to figure that out....
Trump has not given them any reason to trust him. They have experienced genocide by betrayal, rendering Trumps words as meaningless to Kurdish ears.
I was forgetting about the Syria thing as commented on below. That one seems a real mystery - backing a ISIS leader who then leading the group slaughtering every other group it seems, like Christians, and including the Kurds. (not super familiar with who is slaughtering who at any given moment over there however).
I can see the point ya.
Trump renames Kurds to Turds in 3,2,1 😂😂😂
I’ll remember you KURDS 😱🫣 Hmmm Trump means what he says 🇺🇸I voted for this
Ya know if they had done what Trump said, they would have been given preferred status on weapons, aid and everything else but the FAed and now they will FO.
But which Kurds? like which Iranians? are we dealing with??
The Kurds have been used and abused and I think they no longer Trust anyone working with Israel.
Yeah they should not be tools, but players in the outcome of a fair Middle East,
Come on. We tried an intermediary again? We’ve known since the Cold War it’s a strategy with not insignificant odds of failure. As millions in guns and ammo is extremely tempting for people to you know just keep.
We’ve got a massive logistics network and more Black Ops/Plausible deniability units that you can shake a stick at.
Was it really impossible to drive a few Semi’s across an especially remote sector of border? Or yeet pallets of guns and ammo out the back of low flying C-130s to get picked up by contacts on the ground or something?
Hell. They could have landed a few planes on Desert Runways Ala the rescue. Do it under the cover of night in time with strike waves as cover.
You can unload direct to your contacts. And given Irans current heavy reliance on Militia for internal security. Your contacts have ready made cover to be rolling around with Trucks full of weapons. With few questions being asked.
Can't trust ANYONE in that region. Time to get away and stay away, completely
Good. This absolves us from any perceived loyalty we had for the Kurds. That has burdened us for years. They have been exposed like the other countries who have failed to assist us in the Iran conflict.
They were betrayed by several US Presidents, so I don't hold it against them that they gave some back.
I don’t have any issues with the Kurds. We are America first. They are Kurds first. We can still be allies in certain situations. But it seems like there is the “what about the Kurds” crowd that we can ignore now.
Kurds want an independent, powerful Kurdistan. Nothing else.
The safestnplace to be back in tje day was in suliamanyah (sp). Love my time there. This is disappointing
The Iraqi Kurds are a separatist group. They are nothing like the Iranian Kurds that are not separatists and want to remain part of Iran. In fact, they don't trust the Iraqi Kurds and if anyone would have bothered to ask them about this hairbrained plan they would have said it wouldn't work.
Trump was right and it proves the lack of Western analysts' understanding of the ME. I place this ignorance on par with that of their level of understanding about the Chicoms. Trump needs advice from real Iranians and Chinese that know their own situations better than some American Western educated know it all that did not experience growing up and living under these repressive authoritarian regimes.
Wonder if he’s referring to the same Kurds known to be able to take on anyone at anytime. Those Kurdish fighters are legit. Basically born and breed for war. Or are we talking about another bunch?
Been hearing this ever since I was a baby, and it finally happened
Kurds in the way