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Israel tried to stop the peace deal with Iran
posted 3 days ago by SkullE 3 days ago by SkullE +63 / -0

Netanyahu is nothing more than a warmonger who stays in power as long as someone in the middle east is getting bombed. He bombed Lebanon on the same day that he knew Trump was closing a peace deal with Iran in hopes that it would pull Iran back from the peace table and continue the war. He's not our friend.

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– Mr_A 9 points 3 days ago +9 / -0

This seems to still be tracking with the book, The Sum of All Fears.

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– OregonAngel2 6 points 3 days ago +6 / -0

The Israelis may stage a false flag at the World Cup and here's why:

https://www.dagnyintel.com/post/the-israelis-may-stage-a-false-flag-at-the-world-cup-here-s-why

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– Mr_A 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Thanks for the heads up. It appears that the public narrative is already being sown. And I haven't even finished the book yet.

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– OregonAngel2 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

The movie is very well done. You might try that. It will also show you what Nessum Dorma really means... ; )

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– mac1221 7 points 3 days ago +7 / -0

What makes you think the Iranian regime didn't plan this stunt? Hezbollah is their proxy. Israel has been under constant attack from Hezbollah during this so called cease fire. If it had been us, we would have glassed Lebanon long time ago.

Trump ended up making a last minute concession just to keep Iran from backing out. Which conveniently the regime had ready when Trump's people made the call. Trump removed the blockade immediately instead of doing it slowly. This is right out of a page in the Islamic regime's playbook. Count on them to do things like this at the last minute just to squeeze more out of a deal or to buy more time.

However, Israel knew Iran would try to pull something like this and should not have retaliated the way they did. So, I think there is plenty of blame to go around.

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– aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

'a last minute concession' what was it?

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– mac1221 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

Instead of removing the naval blockade slowly in line with Iran's behavior, Trump agreed to remove it immediately, which he ordered and posted about it. That move has pissed a lot of people off. Unfortunately it was a huge diplomatic loss for Trump. Now the regime senses weakness in Trump for the sake of getting this overhyped MOU over the finish line and they are going to play it for even more concessions. It is not a peace deal. It is nothing more than an agreement to continue talking. But Trump is giving up a lot just to keep the Iranians at the table. Why?

Just like clockwork, now the Iranian regime is demanding part of their $25 billion before they will even meet on Friday or even sign anything. They want half of this paid this week before any meeting with the rest to follow. If that happens and Trump gives in to their demands, that is a huge loss and of course the Iranians will spin it as a victory to the home crowd. Sadly, it would be true. It looks like surrender. They still have not agreed to even sign the MOU according to Iranian sources. The Pakistanis can't be trusted any more than the Iranian regime. The only thing Trump has gotten so far is that they have agreed to discuss nuclear. Nothing more. Just talk. What they say in Farsi isn't even close to what is being said in English. They have not changed their stance about anything according to them. They will not give up their nuclear program or the stockpile.

Trump has made such a huge deal out of not being like the others and paying the Iranians to end up with nothing but agreements they never meant to keep to begin with. They do not change. They have no intentions of giving up anything voluntarily. Trump is going to lose a lot of his base support if he caves in to the Iranians just for the sake of a stupid piece of paper that in the end really means nothing. An extended ceasefire agreement for 60 days to continue negotiations. This is all the Iranians have really agreed to. But the administration keeps selling this as though it is a finalized peace settlement. Not a good look at all and he is spending a lot of credibility for this.

The only thing the news about it has done is make the markets happy and oil is down. I just checked maritime traffic a short while ago and only saw one ship going through the Strait. Not sure when the Strait is supposed to actually be open. The Iranians are still claiming sovereignty over the Strait and they will manage it with Oman. Charging a toll of course. I know you have to take Iranian media with a huge grain of salt, but when Trump says one thing and reality speaks of another, it is hard to reconcile the difference.

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– therobots 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Weak post, no sauce at all.

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– BoiledRhombus 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

You'd have to be pretty naïve to think Israel is the good guy in all of this at this point. Who do you think Epstein and Maxwell were working for? You think they were just blackmailing important people for fun? Lmao

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– mac1221 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

I am not claiming Israel is innocent. Far from it. I am speaking of this particular situation only and Israel is not the only player here. The Iranians are the ones that set this off and they knew it. They planned it. In fact, they specialize in railroading deals at the last minute to get what they want. It's a signature move of theirs. This was all done to back Trump into a corner - which they did. They are trying to squeeze even more concessions out of Trump over this stupid MOU even right now.

Israel simply seized on the opportunity to punch Hezbollah in the nose because Iran opened the door and they walked through it. Both sides are not kosher and neither have any interest in ending this. The only one involved in the process that wants a reasonable way out is Trump. Frankly, I don't believe there will ever be real peace in that region. It's not in their DNA. So Trump is left trying to navigate between all these players that have their own agendas and so do those pulling their strings. Israel, Iran, and Hezbollah are only the tools being used.

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– Jambrocious1 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

Lebanon was under constant attack from Israel. It was Israel that broke down how many agreements now? And it will be Israel that gets this agreement butchered. I give it a matter of days at most. Probably a false flag. The sooner Trump cuts ties permanently the better. And he should start rooting them out here at home

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– mac1221 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

So, just exactly how did Hezbollah even end up in Lebanon and who funds them? Do you even know? I suppose Israel did that too along with ripping that once beautiful Christian country apart from years of civil war with Hezbollah. Or, do you have some other preprogramed default answer? Do you know anyone from Lebanon that lived through it? I do. Several.

I am not claiming that Israel is somehow innocent in all this. They most certainly are not and they have contributed to the instability in the region. But when the blame completely shifts to the other side of a very complicated dynamic ME equation, and when people on right start rattling off the same old tired talking points used on the left and from the jihadis, one has to wonder.

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– Megaboom2025 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Synagogue of Satan

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– dakinnia 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

Muh Jooooooooosssssssssssssssssss...................

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– Megaboom2025 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

Yes Q named them

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– BoiledRhombus 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah, the synagogue of Satan. What about it?

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– CasuallyObservant 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

What will Trump do to make Bibi cooperate? I mean...

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