Going through all the tax conversations here and came across your comment. I’m curious if you still haven’t heard anything?
knowing how corruptible men are
Remember this: God can draw a straight line with a crooked stick.
Godspeed in your research, my fren.
Ultimately, I think the majority of confusion on this matter arises from the fact that Christianity became the State religion during the time of Constantine, and this presented a major problem for all the Pagan religions at the time. They needed to adjust their religious system to accommodate Christianity or face serious repercussions.
Enter Catholicism...
Catholicism is the main culprit for merging Paganism into Christianity, not Constantine.
Satan basically said, "I can't beat/kill the Christians. Might as well join them!"
Oh, I see.
It appears you are referring to the sources and quotes that were provided in a previous response to support the assertion about Constantine's influence on Christianity. Let's address those sources and quotes in that context:
Eberhard Nestle: Eberhard Nestle is known for his work in the field of New Testament textual criticism. The quote attributed to him suggests that "correctors" were selected to scrutinize sacred texts after the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. While it acknowledges the role of correctors, it does not necessarily imply that Constantine inserted Pagan doctrines into Christianity. The work of correctors primarily focused on textual variations and consistency rather than the introduction of new doctrines.
R. W. Bernard: R. W. Bernard's quote asserts that in 325 AD, a "colossal fraud" occurred at the Council of Nicaea, which aimed to create a new religion acceptable to Emperor Constantine. It's important to note that this view represents a minority perspective and is not supported by mainstream historical scholarship (this phrase will probably make some cringe in here, but in some discussions it matters where one gleans their info from) . The Council of Nicaea primarily addressed theological disputes, particularly the Arian controversy, rather than creating an entirely new religion.
Eusebius: Eusebius was an early Christian historian and bishop. The quote attributed to him mentions Emperor Constantine's preference to disassociate from the Jewish community. While Constantine's views on religious matters were influential during his reign, this quote does not directly support the assertion that Pagan doctrines were inserted into Christianity.
The majority Biblical of scholars do not support the idea that Constantine introduced Pagan doctrines into Christianity, but rather that he played a role in addressing theological disputes and granting religious tolerance to Christians. The quotes provided represent alternative viewpoints, and it's important to evaluate them in the context of broader historical consensus.
Early Christians were anything but the "winners." They were killed for their beliefs well into the 2nd century. Christianity flourished at the sharp end of the sword during that time. And we have the overwhelming majority of the Bible written down in it's entirety well before the 2nd century.
Are Israel and Hamas using hang-gliders? Seriously? We just saw this being done...smh
The claim that the Bible has been irrevocably corrupted during the 4th century under the influence of Emperor Constantine is not supported by ANY credible historical scholarship. Let's address this assertion and provide some context:
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Corruption of the Bible: While there have been variations in biblical texts over time due to copyist errors, variations between manuscripts, and translation differences, these variations do not necessarily equate to corruption. Biblical scholars and textual critics have worked diligently to reconstruct the original texts of the Old and New Testaments by comparing and analyzing the thousands of available manuscripts. Modern translations are based on careful scholarship and aim to provide accurate renderings of the biblical texts.
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Constantine's Influence: Emperor Constantine played a significant role in the history of Christianity, most notably through the Edict of Milan in 313 CE, which granted religious tolerance to Christians. However, the idea that Constantine inserted Pagan doctrines into Christianity is a contentious assertion and lacks strong historical evidence. Constantine's primary role was to convene the First Council of Nicaea in 325 CE to address theological disputes, particularly the Arian controversy, not to insert pagan doctrines.
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Essenes, Ebionite Nazirenes, and Gnostics: These were various groups with diverse beliefs and practices within early Christianity. While they had their unique perspectives, they were not the sole preservers of Christian scripture. Early Christianity was marked by theological diversity, and the process of canonization of the New Testament involved the wider Christian community. Certain texts, such as Gnostic writings, were not included in the New Testament due to their theological differences and later development.
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Violent Suppression: The claim that books were violently burned and buried, along with their believers, needs to be substantiated with credible historical sources. While there were periods of religious conflict in the early Christian history, making such a sweeping statement without specific historical references is problematic.
It's essential to approach historical and religious claims with a critical and balanced perspective, relying on reputable sources and scholarly research. The development of the biblical canon, the influence of early Christian figures, and the spread of Christianity are complex historical subjects, and they should be examined with nuance and care.
How rich coming from the same guy (Jew) who headed up Operation Paperclip bringing thousands of Nazis into our country after WW2.
What's even more ironic is when certain Anons in one thread will quote Q with utmost confidence saying "It will be Biblical," but in another thread they argue that "duH bIbLe HaS bEeN ChanGEd!"
smh...
Seeing Zelensky is a self proclaimed Jew, the money was most likely, as you say, going straight to Israel. Ukraine was DEF the middleman.
Reminds me of Matthew 24:6-7:
“You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.”
In this passage, Jesus is describing the signs and events that will precede the end times and His return. It’s often cited in discussions of eschatology (the study of end-times events) within Christian theology.
My question is what are the dosages and frequency one should take ivermectin to reap these benefits? Surely the dosage amounts for other ailments are different than the parasite dosages?
I took the liberty of reading the first link you provided. I’ll give a detailed assessment for those who have the time to read this exchange but not willing to read all the inter webs links you shared. Let me know if you’d like me to assess your other links provided.
https://willyealsogoaway.substack.com/p/the-shocking-truth-about-ci-scofield
This link claims that Scofield was a dishonest and immoral man who abandoned his first wife and children, forged signatures, accepted bribes, lied about his credentials, and plagiarized his notes from other sources. It also claims that he was influenced by Zionists and occultists who wanted to promote a false doctrine of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism.
• My response: While it is true that Scofield had a troubled and controversial past, some of the accusations in the link are exaggerated or unsubstantiated. For example, there is no evidence that Scofield forged signatures or accepted bribes, and the claim that he plagiarized his notes from other sources is based on a faulty comparison of different editions of his Bible
Furthermore, there is no proof that Scofield was influenced by Zionists or occultists, and the claim that he was a member of a secret society called the Lotus Club is based on a misinterpretation of a newspaper article
Scofield's doctrine of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism was not a new or novel idea, but rather a development of the views of John Nelson Darby and other premillennialists who believed in the literal interpretation of biblical prophecy
• The author of this article claims that Scofield's Bible corrupted the word of God by adding his own notes and interpretations that contradicted the plain meaning of the text. It also claims that Scofield's Bible changed some words and verses to fit his dispensationalist agenda, such as replacing "day of Christ" with "day of the Lord" in 2 Thessalonians 2:2.
• My response: While it is true that Scofield's Bible added his own notes and interpretations, he did not claim that they were inspired or infallible, but rather offered them as a help for understanding the Scriptures. He also stated in his introduction that his notes were not intended to be a substitute for personal study or a commentary on every verse
Furthermore, he did not change the text of the King James Version, but rather used the marginal notes to indicate alternative readings or translations based on textual criticism or linguistic analysis
For example, he replaced "day of Christ" with "day of the Lord" in 2 Thessalonians 2:2 because he believed that the latter was more accurate and consistent with the context and other passages
I hope this helps those reading this to develop their own opinion about CI Scofield and his Bible.
Would you like me to assess the other links you provided?
Support Israel and your Islamaphobic. Support Palestine and your antisemitic!
Checkmate!
Lol
All Jews aren’t bad, my man.
Hasty generalization much?
See? I can do short and punchy responses too !!
I’m well researched. Deal with it.
Scofield (the criminal)
You need some serious sauce here, fren.
Just because you vehemently disagree with Dispensationalism doesn’t make Scofield a criminal. Sounds like your trying to run a smear campaign against Scofield and dispensationalism et al. Doesn’t look good. Instead of dealing with the individual claims of dispensationalism you prefer to sling mud at some of its main proponents. Got to be better than that.
BTW research who funded the Scofield Reference Bible.....you will find it was a Jewish group in NYC. Now why would a Jewish group fund a Christians Reference Bible.
The claim that a Jewish group in New York City funded the Scofield Reference Bible is a historical fact. The primary financial supporter of Cyrus Scofield's work on the Scofield Reference Bible was Samuel Untermeyer, a Jewish lawyer and philanthropist. It's important to understand the historical context and motivations behind this support:
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Philanthropic Support: Samuel Untermeyer and other individuals provided financial support to various religious and educational causes. Their support was not limited to specific theological views but often aimed at promoting broader understanding and cooperation among different religious groups.
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Interfaith Dialogue: The support for the Scofield Reference Bible should be seen in the context of interfaith efforts and a desire to promote religious literacy. This is consistent with other philanthropic activities that sought to bridge gaps between different religious communities.
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Not Necessarily Endorsement: The financial support for the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible does not necessarily indicate an endorsement of its theological content. It's important to distinguish between supporting the publication of a work and wholeheartedly agreeing with its contents.
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Theological Interpretation: The Scofield Reference Bible, while popular, represents a particular theological interpretation, namely dispensationalism. This interpretation is not universally accepted by all Christians, including those of Jewish faith, and thus, support for its publication does not imply a uniform theological perspective.
The financial support for the Scofield Reference Bible by individuals of Jewish faith should be understood within the broader context of philanthropic efforts and interfaith dialogue. It does not necessarily suggest a theological alignment with the content of the Bible but rather reflects a desire to engage in discussions and promote religious literacy across different communities.
Dispensationalism is a man-made construct.
And so is every other eschatological framework.
Prior to 1830 American Christians didn't believe in a secret rapture,
This is patently false.
While classical dispensationalism as formulated by theologians like C.I. Scofield and John Nelson Darby had its distinctive features, some of its elements can be traced to earlier theological traditions and interpretations of the Bible. Here are a few examples:
1.Distinction Between Israel and the Church:
• Early Church Fathers like Justin Martyr (2nd century) and Irenaeus (2nd century) acknowledged distinctions between God’s dealings with Israel and the Church in their writings. They recognized that God had specific plans for both groups.
2.Futurist Interpretation of Prophecy:
•The belief in future prophetic events can be traced to various interpretations of the Book of Revelation in early Christian writings. Some early Church theologians, like Hippolytus (3rd century), held views that anticipated future fulfillment of certain prophecies.
3.Premillennialism:
• The concept of a future literal thousand-year reign of Christ has been present in different forms throughout Christian history. Papias (1st century) is often cited as an early proponent of premillennialism, and it has appeared in the writings of various Church Fathers.
4.Rapture:
• While the term “rapture” was not used in the same way as in classical dispensationalism, early Christian writers such as Ephraem the Syrian (4th century) and Jerome (4th-5th century) discussed the idea of believers being caught up to meet Christ in connection with 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
While classical dispensationalism combined these elements into a systematic theological framework and popularized them in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it’s important to recognize that many of these ideas had antecedents in Christian thought and theology prior to the Scofield Study Bible. Dispensationalism itself has evolved over time, with variations and modifications to its original form.
You have a specific slant against the Scofield reference Bible and Darby that appears unfounded, for the same distinctions made in Modern Dispensationalism were drawn by very early believers in Christendom.
#RightlyDividingTheWord
Great question:
Zechariah 12:3:
“On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.”
Zechariah 14:2:
“I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.”
He’s been very disappointed in them lately, though.
Thank you for the quick follow up.
I might just try your approach. State of Florida here; no state taxes.